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#1251 Grippy

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 18:47

Don't we all own lots of companies worth £1?



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#1252 BRG

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 19:20

The government have also signed a post-Brexit agreement with Rich Energy to supply energy drinks. They will be shipped over here on their fleet of Seabourne ferries.

Good luck getting those non-existent ferries up tp the proudly British factory in land-locked Austria! 

 

Maybe Rich Energy Gives You Wings Skis  Wheels  Skids oh well, maybe we shouldn't co-opt THAT slogan.....



#1253 Maxioos

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 19:36

Just from public record. I sometimes wonder whether people realise just how easily accessible public records are these days (Google searches and HTML summaries/free PDF downloads).


I know, thanks for that. I just backed off from story somewhat. Got the impression I annoyed to many with the research and opinion postings. I'm just waiting for the court days and hope the related publications will bring updates on the case. And curious what court will decide and what case against Storeyman in person is.

#1254 R Soul

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 21:23

I wonder what a "multi user ambient temperature store" is. A shop? A warehouse? A lockup? Self storage?



#1255 Maxioos

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 21:27

I wonder what a "multi user ambient temperature store" is. A shop? A warehouse? A lockup? Self storage?


Garage sales.

#1256 danmills

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 22:22

I wonder what a "multi user ambient temperature store" is. A shop? A warehouse? A lockup? Self storage?

 

Big Yellow (where they were storing the stuff in Richmond even after the supposed massive distribution contracts were 'inked') allegedly falls into this. I enquired and they confirmed carbonated drinks did fall under the allowed uses under the controlled storage environment.

 

So the Ronspeak description of having them essentially just in del-boys lockup rings true lol. At least for the 4 available crates of 12 or so that were on Amazon at the time came from one. And they can even have Big Yellow staff sign / ship them out (for a fee) on their behalf. But I doubt the volumes were large enough to warrant that. Maybe even W.S was doing that himself too!

The more this unravels the more I am convinced this is essentially just a spending spree on some sort of borrowed money / loan / investment.

The actions are like that of a kid in a sweet shop with a £20 note and 40,000 penny sweet containers.

I am still fascinated by the guy, and wish he would do more interviews. But much of the stuff out there on him seems to be the same cut and paste job, with the syrup overtones of how luxurious his brand is. But not much more, nothing really 'new'.

At some point he literally went from being a management company to full on energy drinks, which is a massive leap. I'm also convinced the linkedin profile has been changed to say that he worked on tech law recently. Which means he must have some smart insight and loopholes with the whole whyte bikes saga. Something he either is 10 steps ahead of, or simply has an ace up his sleeves in that Whyte may not have registered the logo or something silly. I did wonder if he was sitting pretty on some patents of sorts, or was in receipt of mega royalties or lawsuit money from the tech side. That, I guess, would be a personal fund that may not require declaration of sorts? But then his old companies would have traces. Maybe worth looking into those for patents or lawsuits, heck, even the products related. The website is very pixellated, the same dodgy photoshop work like they did with Haas.

 

Also intrigued by the 'natural resources link' and that he follows Shell. Fingers in many pies.

''Entrepreneur operating in a variety of sectors from IT/ Business services to technology law, sports andentertainment ,music, finance and natural resources. Clients range from FTSE 100 companies to footballclubs to national governments.''


Edited by danmills, 26 February 2019 - 22:43.


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Posted 27 February 2019 - 00:34

I wonder what a "multi user ambient temperature store" is. A shop? A warehouse? A lockup? Self storage?

 

Hole in the ground.



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Posted 27 February 2019 - 05:49

I am still fascinated by the guy, and wish he would do more interviews.


This one is worth a read (you can register for free).. claims he made his money from investing in a tobacco farm:

https://www.telegrap...-mad-scientist/

#1259 Jazza

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 06:24

This one is worth a read (you can register for free).. claims he made his money from investing in a tobacco farm:


Lots of money from Tobacco and the product advertised (cans of drink) doesn’t seem to exist...

Would love it if Rich Energy is just another Mission Winnow/A Better Tomorrow front for tobacco money. After all, the car does look like an old Imperial brand 😉.

And after everything seen so far, it wouldn’t be that surprising! The whole thing defies reason.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 06:45

Lots of money from Tobacco and the product advertised (cans of drink) doesn’t seem to exist...

Would love it if Rich Energy is just another Mission Winnow/A Better Tomorrow front for tobacco money. After all, the car does look like an old Imperial brand 😉.

And after everything seen so far, it wouldn’t be that surprising! The whole thing defies reason.


Imagine if we started getting Lucky Strike energy drink & West Energy drink sponsoring teams...

If the fag companies were to start these companies up via whatever scheme + not contest the branding/logo being the same/similar... I wonder what F1 could actually do to prevent them having sponsorship on the cars.

#1261 Jazza

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 07:03

Imagine if we started getting Lucky Strike energy drink & West Energy drink sponsoring teams...

If the fag companies were to start these companies up via whatever scheme + not contest the branding/logo being the same/similar... I wonder what F1 could actually do to prevent them having sponsorship on the cars.


Yeah. It reminds me of how the British GP used to have huge Marlboro signs everywhere. Something to do with them advertising their program and not their cigarettes, hence why it was around the track and not on the cars.

In fact, I always assumed that’s what British American Racing was supposed to be. A way of getting the name out there for the day tobacco advertising was banned by having a team named after the company.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 08:27



#1263 taran

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 08:34

Yeah. It reminds me of how the British GP used to have huge Marlboro signs everywhere. Something to do with them advertising their program and not their cigarettes, hence why it was around the track and not on the cars.

In fact, I always assumed that’s what British American Racing was supposed to be. A way of getting the name out there for the day tobacco advertising was banned by having a team named after the company.

 

Not really. Because nobody really knows what British American (Tobacco) really is. If they wanted advertising by stealth, they should have named it after an actual cigarette brand like Lucky Strike Racing. or Winfield, Camel or Rothmans etc.

 

The story (allegedly) is that Williams' Rothmans sponsorship deal was up for renewal and that Villeneuve's manager Craig Pollock managed to sell them on the idea that owning their own team (run by him) which wouldn't have an independent identity would provide far more sponsorship return/awareness than sponsoring Williams.

 

 

 



#1264 Peat

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 08:37

That can has been around the block. Look at all the grubby fingerprints!



#1265 Silberpfeil

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:11

That can has been around the block. Look at all the grubby fingerprints!


You never know, might be the same one Grosjean used.

Edited by Silberpfeil, 27 February 2019 - 09:12.


#1266 Maxioos

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:38

That can has been around the block. Look at all the grubby fingerprints!

 

You understand it wrong, that's the "premium" part.

 

Who doesn't want a can with Grosjean's fingerprints on it?



#1267 Maxioos

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:40

 

Would be super fun a other took pictures of him taking this picture with Storey behind him giving the can prior and taking it after this picture.



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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:51

This one is worth a read (you can register for free).. claims he made his money from investing in a tobacco farm:

https://www.telegrap...-mad-scientist/

The article says,

'The name “Rich” is short for Richmond, the company’s base...'

 

I think we are still waiting for evidence that the company "is based in Richmond". Wandsworth is not Richmond. It's a marginal distinction, but the deliberate inaccuracy seems consistent with everything else about this outfit - a lot of sizzle but no steak.



#1269 Peat

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:59

I wonder what a "multi user ambient temperature store" is. A shop? A warehouse? A lockup? Self storage?

 

That's hilarious. BS merchants at every step of the supply chain. 

 



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Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:02

This just gets weirder. 

 

https://gust.com/com..._distribution_1

 

https://www.bbb.org/...-0714-300172708

 

''Company Summary

 

Rich Distribution LLC is a distributor of Rich Energy Drink, a premium beverage manufactured in a state-of-the art facility in Salzburg, Austria. Rich was developed to benefit consumers in their daily health goals, adding vitamins and nutrients that complement their diets. Rich is an outstanding addition to the world of functional energy drinks. Rich boasts a rich flavor profile that appeals to even the most discerning palate.''

 

Who are these people?

Lawrence Chatters - CEO

'Lawrence Chatters is the owner of Main St Cafe Bar and Rich Bar & Lounge in Lincoln Nebraska. He is also a Licensed Mental Health Practitioner in the state of Nebraska and holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Psychology with a minor in Sociology from Midland Lutheran College in Fremont, Nebraska. He holds a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln and is currently enrolled in the PhD. program in that department.''

 

and more oddly... 

 

Mujahid Yusuf Kuwa - President

 

Mr. Kuwa is a Military Intelligence Officer. He started his military career in the Army National Guard as a Administrative Specialist and English-Arabic Interpreter in Al Asad, Iraq. While at the University of Nebraska, he was a member of the Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC). Mr. Kuwa holds a Bachelor’s Degree in International Studies with a minor in Military Science. Mr. Kuwa also Deployed to Afghanistan in 2010-2011.

 

https://trademarks.j...y-85621475.html

 

Info here going back to 2012. No mention of Storey yet. So has he jumped on the bandwagon (officially) in some form much later on it seems? And where is the trace of these other guys in the UK operation?

 

Unless Storey (and the brand / funding of the F1 outfit) is just the front for something going on in the background. Or is Storey only involved in the UK branch of the whole thing?


Edited by danmills, 27 February 2019 - 10:49.


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Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:32

Oh its getting juicy again now...

 

https://www.ventureg...s---review.aspx

 

''Venture Giants entrepreneur raises £900,000 from a £99 listing

 

An entrepreneur that submitted his investment proposal through Venture Giants, a website that connects entrepreneurs with investors had today confirmed that he had secured an angel investment of £900k from a listing fee of only £99 through Venture Giants.

Within 48 hours of submitting an investment proposal to Venture Giants, William Storey had received the interest of 10 high net worth investors from a remarkably simply investment description submitted to Venture Giants (attached below).

4 weeks later, Storey had secured angel investment funding in the tune of £900k through his own presentation to the investors that had contacted him through Venture Giants. As a result Storey was in a position to exchange with the Vendor's Solicitors and in a position to redevelop his 'Stately manor redevelopment' investment proposal in just 4 weeks time.

To receive this interest, Venture Giants had mailed out William Storey's investment proposal to over 500 registered investors that were interested in Storey's Investment region, investment amount and also in his industry which is property related investments. 

It was from this mail out that within 48 hours, 10 investors decided to make contact with William Storey to further discuss his property development proposal further.''



#1272 Maxioos

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:39

Oh its getting juicy again now...

 

https://www.ventureg...s---review.aspx

 

''Venture Giants entrepreneur raises £900,000 from a £99 listing

 

An entrepreneur that submitted his investment proposal through Venture Giants, a website that connects entrepreneurs with investors had today confirmed that he had secured an angel investment of £900k from a listing fee of only £99 through Venture Giants.

Within 48 hours of submitting an investment proposal to Venture Giants, William Storey had received the interest of 10 high net worth investors from a remarkably simply investment description submitted to Venture Giants (attached below).

4 weeks later, Storey had secured angel investment funding in the tune of £900k through his own presentation to the investors that had contacted him through Venture Giants. As a result Storey was in a position to exchange with the Vendor's Solicitors and in a position to redevelop his 'Stately manor redevelopment' investment proposal in just 4 weeks time.

To receive this interest, Venture Giants had mailed out William Storey's investment proposal to over 500 registered investors that were interested in Storey's Investment region, investment amount and also in his industry which is property related investments. 

It was from this mail out that within 48 hours, 10 investors decided to make contact with William Storey to further discuss his property development proposal further.''

 

2009?

 

Is it clear he paid back with promised interest? 



#1273 danmills

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:51

Wait.... how many skills does this guy claim to have? Dude has an autobiography in the making  :cool:

 

We need a timeline showing when and where each branch was formed / overlaps in this chain of success.

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Edited by danmills, 27 February 2019 - 10:54.


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Posted 27 February 2019 - 11:08

Maybe the real Rich Energy is the friends we made along the way.



#1275 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 18:59

3% interest a month is 36% per year. It is crazy.

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 18:59

Maybe the real Rich Energy is the friends we made along the way.


What does that mean?

Can you be less cryptic?

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 20:24

In Douglas Adams' book Mostly Harmless, the publishers of the Hitch-hikers' Guide to the Galaxy had decided to save on manufacturing costs by only making one Guide, but giving it the ability to travel through time, so that everyone who wanted it could own it in their own time line.

 

Is it possible that Rich Energy is working on a time machine but hasn't quite worked out how to transmit its can yet?



#1278 boomn

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 20:38

Maybe the real Rich Energy is the friends we made along the way.

Sounds great as long as it's not true in the Soylent Green kind of way



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Posted 27 February 2019 - 20:42

Or Slurm.



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 03:11

I wonder what a "multi user ambient temperature store" is. A shop? A warehouse? A lockup? Self storage?

 

Ron Dennis' pantry



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 04:05

Ok so I haven't followed the thread that closely (it's iconic thats for sure) but do want to know if I can purchase/sample this luxury energy drink at the Australian Grand Prix when there?

Do they plan on doing any promotions/marketing at actual Grands Prix at any point? They're a major backer of a team after all... this bloke wants to take on Red Bull, where does he plan to start that journey?

Edited by PlayboyRacer, 28 February 2019 - 04:06.


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Posted 28 February 2019 - 04:32

This just gets weirder.

https://gust.com/com..._distribution_1

https://www.bbb.org/...-0714-300172708

''Company Summary


Rich Distribution LLC is a distributor of Rich Energy Drink, a premium beverage manufactured in a state-of-the art facility in Salzburg, Austria. Rich was developed to benefit consumers in their daily health goals, adding vitamins and nutrients that complement their diets. Rich is an outstanding addition to the world of functional energy drinks. Rich boasts a rich flavor profile that appeals to even the most discerning palate.''

Who are these people?

Lawrence Chatters - CEO

'Lawrence Chatters is the owner of Main St Cafe Bar and Rich Bar & Lounge in Lincoln Nebraska. He is also a Licensed Mental Health Practitioner in the state of Nebraska and holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Psychology with a minor in Sociology from Midland Lutheran College in Fremont, Nebraska. He holds a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln and is currently enrolled in the PhD. program in that department.''


and more oddly...

Mujahid Yusuf Kuwa - President

Mr. Kuwa is a Military Intelligence Officer. He started his military career in the Army National Guard as a Administrative Specialist and English-Arabic Interpreter in Al Asad, Iraq. While at the University of Nebraska, he was a member of the Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC). Mr. Kuwa holds a Bachelor’s Degree in International Studies with a minor in Military Science. Mr. Kuwa also Deployed to Afghanistan in 2010-2011.

https://trademarks.j...y-85621475.html

Info here going back to 2012. No mention of Storey yet. So has he jumped on the bandwagon (officially) in some form much later on it seems? And where is the trace of these other guys in the UK operation?

Unless Storey (and the brand / funding of the F1 outfit) is just the front for something going on in the background. Or is Storey only involved in the UK branch of the whole thing?

So the CEO is a grad student? That’s it, I’m pitching a sitcom about this: Get Rich Quick.

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 05:11

The article states he is a doctoral student, his Linkedin account states he has completed his doctoral.  The account doesn't make mention of the two night clubs, but according to Google they are quite successful and you can track his name to their ownership. 

 

Found this on Google from 2012 regarding Chatters...

 

http://www.dailynebr...1a4bcf6878.html

 

"It started as a Croatian energy drink.

In 2012, Lawrence Chatters, a doctoral candidate in counseling psychology at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, was looking for a way to advertise Rich Energy Drink, a Croatian product for which he and a business partner owned the U.S. distribution rights."

The night club has since closed.

This also came up...

https://www.bbb.org/...-0714-300172708

Rich Energy Drink

Food Manufacturer

BBB File Opened: 2/23/2018

Mr. Lawrence Chatters, Owner
 
 
 
 
RICH ENERGY DRINK - Trademark Details
 
 
Word MarkRICH ENERGY DRINK
Status 700 - Registered
Status Date 2014-04-22
Filing Date 2012-05-10

Edited by Nathan, 28 February 2019 - 05:12.


#1284 Peat

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 08:57

#hrvatskimarka #energijapice #luksuznosastojci #premija 



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 12:24

Ok, some digging last night and this is starting to piece together a little more...but it is still massively tangled.

So Rich Energy, we assume, was created by some guy from Croatia - Drazen Majstrovic - who currently still has links to Storey. How they got together, I have no idea. We can assume Drazen Majstrovic is the silent top man, and Storey is the face of Rich as we know it today. Rich, it claims, was founded in 2010, but like KFC, has a secret recipe going on for years before. But 2010 is supposedly THE date.

Earliest photo I found of the product on shelves is January 2013, in the USA. Confirms the brand to Chatters and around the time of the bar and lounge opening in June 2013.

 

602857-10100732522940123-1709106334-n.jp

 

Now going back slightly, the above two rogues previously discussed (Chatters and Kuma) appear to own the trademark for Rich Energy Drink and also Rich Energy Distribution LLC. There are other odd trademark registrants for Rich and Energy Drink but I haven't looked into those yet. To date, I believe Chatters and Kuma may still hold the exclusive rights for distribution in the US. I found one more name with these guys - Roy Machamire - it seems another Nebraska student part of this startup company and named as the financial advisor during the early Rich Energy years with the (later mentioned) bar and lounge. Roy Machamire could be the fall guy on why Rich toppled the first time round. I can't view the US articles but if anyone knows why it went tits up, please share. I see articles, but no access.

 

Drazen Majstrovic currently works in medical research, and Machamire is presently in Healthcare. The company (I-Nova) has US ties so there could be strong evidence to suggest these are all college guys from Nebraska and just knew each other as friends.

 

Somewhere along the line, Rich Energy in the US turned into something via Chatters and Kuwa. Drazen still had a role, he is tagged in various boat parties with girls glad in gold lycra around the time the Rich Bar and Lounge was opened in 2012-2014 in Nebraska as a way to promote the brand. Home of the above students.

 

Now, could it be that Drazen founded the whole thing, but his mates were the ones actively plugging it, at least stateside. I'm not sure where Drazen vanished in all of this, he sort of went awol.
 

This raises the question - where and how did these grown up kids in Nebraska get the funds to run all these parties and setup a bar and lounge? There are lots of pics around with the ghetto style Rich logo and cans. Is this where Drazen is silently backing them and decided to become the silent owner?

https://mulpix.com/richenergydrinkus

Lots of deleted media. I wonder why? Some tags remain, confirming the Nebraska and Rich Energy ties. Same style tagging. Same person doing the social media? Is it Drazen? Surely not.

 

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MIXR.jpg

 

After some more digging, I found MIXR Premium Energy Drink. Seemingly founded in 2012 in Nebraska by none other than Chatters and Kuwa. The MIXR page, by name, has comments and contacts for none other than... Rich Energy Drink. It also looks like they branded it all the same way as Rich. Black, Gold, and big US flags on the cans. And videos about their US heritage. 

https://www.facebook...f=page_internal

 

The selling point, it's ability to mix with everything. Which is the same slogan as... Rich Energy US, ghetto iteration.

https://www.instagra...ydrinkus/?hl=en

Oddly, MIXR was founded in 2012, just after Rich. And just around the time of the Rich Bar and Lounge. So either Rich Energy and MIXR are the same product, but just different names either side of the Atlantic. Somewhere along the line, the two links seriously crossed over, as we have spillages of the Rich branding and references all over the MIXR page.

 

https://trademarks.j...y-87954600.html

Even weirder, there was a trademark application made as recently as 2018 by Chatters for MIXR Energy Drink. So the dead donkey MIXR Energy drink is still very much alive, by name, as MIXR, but with all the ties and links to Rich Energy. MIXR, complete with rich energy links, are still plugging MIXR. They have a video of the cans being made at a plant in Andover, New Jersey.

 

Somewhere along the way, Chatters and Kuwa seem to have stopped being involved with the Rich brand in the public domain and seem to be doing their own thing with other careers, but seemingly MAY still have the US distribution rights laying dormant by name of Rich Energy and still plugging MIXR. This timing is sort of in line with when Storey gets involved in the UK.

 

Could it be that Rich tried to break the US, via the bar and lounge, and this just didn't take off? They also had MIXR in the making (or formed after Rich went quiet after the Bar and Lounge thing), but this either hit a dead end, or lay dormant. It pretty much confirms that Rich Energy has been rebranded in at least three known forms and times to date.

Which leads to how Storey then got involved, maybe around 2015, and is now leading them to try and break into the market once again via his sports sponsorship a la Red Bull. And the rebranding into a much more premium luxury drink over the party mixing ability all being Storey's touch.

 

This, to me, makes sense chronologically.

I can't seem to find any ties directly with Storey, Chatters and Kuwa. Their profiles are active on social media, but have no real relevant active interactions with Rich Energy. Drazen was actively involved in the ghetto iteration of Rich Energy, but today, silent.

He might still be secretly funding it, like he maybe did with the lounge? Who knows. He is still at the top, it seems. And links to Storey, directly.

I am now left wondering all these questions about not being able to get a can is related to issues with Chatters and Kuwa. If these guys hold the aces to distribution rights in the US, and the trademark, then that is surely a BIG obstacle for Rich Energy in sponsoring a US F1 Team. Unless Drazen has the rights outside the US and they are of course all friends.

 

Either way, if the trademarks still stand, then Chatters and Kuwa are due to receive a big pile of money if this takes off. I do wonder why does Drazen not own the trademark, or are the other two the smarter ones? Are they even connected still? Who and what is MIXR in all of this?

https://trademarks.j...y-85621475.html

And if Brexit happens, you have to wonder what happens with the distribution rights and potential problems there as well. If any. Is that where Storey is involved, UK wise?

It also makes total cow dung of Storeys story that 'Rich Energy was derived from Richmond, where it was formed' and the absolute lies associated with the origins, the colour and all that jazz. It's pure nonsense. The brand was formed long before he joined, and he is simply paving his own magical path to try to break the market.

Unless Storey was there when the 2012-14 bar and lounge thing was going on.

Storey, it seems, is a bit of a storyteller. 

One thing is for sure, Storey didn't invent the holding the can thing. That was part of the original ghetto Rich heritage. Which COULD mean one of the original guys is still running the show.

 

Is it actually Drazen posting photos of luxury boats from his concrete bunker / actual yacht? Is it really just Dietrich Mateschitz in disguise?

One thing that is popping up now are key head people in regional zones for Rich Energy.

The saga continues.


Edited by danmills, 28 February 2019 - 13:44.


#1286 Pete_f1

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 12:44

Great post danmills, the plot thickens...

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 12:51

https://m.facebook.c...azen.majstrovic

Interesting...

#1288 danmills

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 12:54

Yep, they are all on there, especially Chatters and his DJ set in the Rich Bar in 2013.



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 12:56

Also, check this nugget of information. This was the first US shipment since the ghetto Rich Energy days. The first of Storey being at the helm.

Blake Farhoumand is the exclusive man fronting Rich across the pond. So they have swapped from the US plant where the ghetto cans were made to the Austrian facility. This is the guy, who I believe signed deals early September 2018, is involved in the brand stateside and possibly influence on the HAAS deal with Laurie Pinto. Products were still a pipe dream and sample when the deal was struck. So someone sold the dream big time.

 

This guy took the exclusive rights, even though the product existed before, and is trademarked by others, which still raises questions.

 

 

re12.jpg


Edited by danmills, 28 February 2019 - 17:32.


#1290 Peat

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:22

Someone will write an article on this and you won't get any credit. 

Nonetheless, STERLING WORK DAN!



#1291 danmills

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:25

Drazen has a director role in the Osijek commodity exchange. This was not setup until 2006, so it could well be that this guy was part of the founding of it, and is a massively massively wealthy guy from it all.

 

Someone wrote a thesis trying to explain the role and origin of the Croatian Commodity Exchange here which is a nice friendly read / explanation for thickos like me. Take it with a pinch of salt.

https://ageconsearch... in Croatia.pdf

 

Now I don't even know how old Storey is, but if he has history of making money investing in this alleged tobacco farm, could he have ties with Drazen through the exchange? The fact the farm was in Zimbabwe rings alarm bells to me, but there is very little about this. Storey has many fingers in many pies, the guy just finds ways to get money.

Drazen could have introduced Storey to other commodities, namely his beverage and marketing knowledge, and that's how it evolved. Or he knew of Storeys other marketing ventures and ties, put two and two together, and together made 7.

 

I am keen to know why Chatters is AWOL when, on paper, he holds possible aces.


Edited by danmills, 28 February 2019 - 13:32.


#1292 danmills

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:26

Someone will write an article on this and you won't get any credit. 

Nonetheless, STERLING WORK DAN!

 

Unless I do a scooby-doo on you all and reveal my true identity...



#1293 Grippy

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:35

I've got Chatters and Kowa trademarking Rich Energy Drink (under pharmaceuticals) in 2012

https://trademarks.j...y-85621475.html

 

Chatters, Kuwa and Rich Energy Drink being part of rich Distribution LLC in 2018

https://gust.com/com..._distribution_1

 

And a shipment of Rich sugar-free (odd as their drink has sugar in it) from Germany to Lincoln NE in 2015. (18.9 tonnes)

https://www.importge...istribution-llc 



#1294 Peat

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:35

A plot that goes back as far as June 2009. Like the cicada, danmills waits.



#1295 Rinehart

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:41

Yep, they are all on there, especially Chatters and his DJ set in the Rich Bar in 2013.

What about a theory that Chatters and Kuwa have had a big falling out with Storey and logo trademark issues are the least of his problems...



#1296 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:44

Here is a crazy, crazy theory

Given that Dietrich Matesichitz
https://en.m.wikiped...rich_Mateschitz

Had croatian parents, maybe this Drazen is related to Mateshitz???

Edited by BiggestBuddyLazierFan, 28 February 2019 - 13:45.


#1297 danmills

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:45

I've got Chatters and Kowa trademarking Rich Energy Drink (under pharmaceuticals) in 2012

https://trademarks.j...y-85621475.html

 

Chatters, Kuwa and Rich Energy Drink being part of rich Distribution LLC in 2018

https://gust.com/com..._distribution_1

 

And a shipment of Rich sugar-free (odd as their drink has sugar in it) from Germany to Lincoln NE in 2015. (18.9 tonnes)

https://www.importge...istribution-llc

I have a photo somewhere of the two cans. Sugar and Sugar Free!

EDIT: here! rich-sug.jpg


Edited by danmills, 28 February 2019 - 13:48.


#1298 danmills

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:46

Here is a crazy, crazy theory

Given that Dietrich Matesichitz
https://en.m.wikiped...rich_Mateschitz

Had croatian parents, maybe this Drazen is related to Mateshitz???

 

Already theorised that one! Lol



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:51

Imagine if we could put all this great detective to good use...



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#1300 danmills

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 13:57

It's all for fun really.

Someone with long man nails is doing the social media images for most of the old stuff. Kuma or Drazen? Or another?

 

re2015.jpg

 

Chatters is on the far right.

 

chatters.jpg

 

You have to laugh...

 

renasa1.jpg

And the original logo looked a lot like Kraken Rum.

 

relogoold.jpg


Edited by danmills, 28 February 2019 - 13:59.