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[Myrvold]

Also.

 

These are some of the stages for the Monza WRC Rally later this year.

[PayasYouRace]

He was referring not to the final corner of the banking but the corner that is now the Parabolica.  Look at the circuit map he posted.. instead of the early apex and long, large radius exit it was a constant radius corner.  For a while in-between these versions it was actually squared off with two separate tighter corners.  The Parabolica was built in 1955

 

And you can still see parts of the section with the squared off corners extending beyond the Parabolica and the banking in the satellite photo.

[Beri]

Also.

 

These are some of the stages for the Monza WRC Rally later this year.

 

They are seriously going to introduce the banked oval section to the stage? They would have to remove some fences and some steel gurders then. That wouldnt be much of a problem. But I'm still surprised.

[PayasYouRace]

They’ve been using the banking for rallies for years Beri.

[Beri]

They’ve been using the banking for rallies for years Beri.

You must be joking? Last year when I was at Monza, it looked to me as in no way there could actually be a car that could drive (at speeds) over disintegrated concrete with weeds sticking out.
I never knew. Which in turn does invalidate some part of my earlier replies on this. Mie scuse!

[BRG]

...no way there could actually be a car that could drive (at speeds) over disintegrated concrete with weeds sticking out.

They're called rally cars, Beri.  They even go fast on completely unsurfaced roads!

 

Reading this story made me wonder if April 1 has been postponed to November due to Covid-19?

Edited by BRG, 26 November 2020 - 12:47.

[Beri]

They're called rally cars, Beri. They even go fast on completely unsurfaced roads!

Reading this story made me wonder if April 1 has been postponed to November due to Covid-19?

Haha I know what rally cars are. It just seems a bit unsafe to me to be driving over a disintegrating surface. But then again, it's Italy. Driving their, public, highways isn't much better 😉

[PayasYouRace]

You must be joking? Last year when I was at Monza, it looked to me as in no way there could actually be a car that could drive (at speeds) over disintegrated concrete with weeds sticking out.
I never knew. Which in turn does invalidate some part of my earlier replies on this. Mie scuse!

There’s loads of video out there.

https://youtu.be/xV1y5FyzCdk

[BRG]

Haha I know what rally cars are. It just seems a bit unsafe to me to be driving over a disintegrating surface. But then again, it's Italy. Driving their, public, highways isn't much better

If you had been brought up rallying in the UK, like wot I woz, you would know that disintegrating surfaces were staple fare.  Many club rallies were/are held on old airfields where a disintegrating concrete surface with weeds sticking out was seen as luxury!

[Beri]

If you had been brought up rallying in the UK, like wot I woz, you would know that disintegrating surfaces were staple fare. Many club rallies were/are held on old airfields where a disintegrating concrete surface with weeds sticking out was seen as luxury!

How lucky F1 drivers are with Turkish asphalt 😉

[DeKnyff]

There’s loads of video out there.

https://youtu.be/xV1y5FyzCdk

They don't take the higher part of the oval, though. Just the flatter base.

[Brackets]

They don't take the higher part of the oval, though. Just the flatter base.

 

That's because Rally Cars have a top speed of 21 meters per weekend.

[BRG]

That's because Rally Cars have a top speed of 21 meters per weekend.

I can remember seeing 130mph on the speedo on a rally.  And that was on a gravel road.  Rally cars tend to be geared suitably for the event.  In a few days, we shall see what the current WRCs do on the Monza banking.  If they go round the bottom part, it will be because that is the fastest line.

[Kalmake]

I can remember seeing 130mph on the speedo on a rally.  And that was on a gravel road.  Rally cars tend to be geared suitably for the event.  In a few days, we shall see what the current WRCs do on the Monza banking.  If they go round the bottom part, it will be because that is the fastest line.

...or because top half is marked out of bounds as usual in Monza rally events.

[taz]

I can remember seeing 130mph on the speedo on a rally.  And that was on a gravel road.  Rally cars tend to be geared suitably for the event.  In a few days, we shall see what the current WRCs do on the Monza banking.  If they go round the bottom part, it will be because that is the fastest line.

this is on the Monte Carlo, usually very cold temps

 

[BRG]

...or because top half is marked out of bounds as usual in Monza rally events.

As if the likes of Tanak and Ogier are going to worry about that!  Remember when they taped off a bridge because the rally organiser wanted the cars to use the watersplash next to it.  Loeb just drove flat out through the tape.

[BRG]

They don't take the higher part of the oval, though. Just the flatter base.

 

...or because top half is marked out of bounds as usual in Monza rally events.

From the clips that I have seen of the WRC rally, they were running quite high up the banking in places.  There were some chicanes where cars approached at the top of banking, dived down around a barrier and departed up high again.  And the barriers were concrete as Thierry Neuville discovered to his cost! Oh, and there was snow on the road!