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#251 SonGoku

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 14:44

According to e-racing 365 Vandoorne and de Vries will drive for Mercedes.

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#252 zanquis

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 20:05

According to e-racing 365 Vandoorne and de Vries will drive for Mercedes.

 


According to Mercedes Vandoorne and de Vries will drive for Mercedes :)

#253 kumo7

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 02:51

Kinda nice.



#254 kumo7

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 02:54

Many German car companies does this.

 

Looking it, I can hardly avoid thinking; Is there any way for a new series, a series with open formula for chassis-motor building?

 
Hard to start new series, tho, now that Porsche, BMW, AUDI, Merc, Nissan had lined up for this series... But therefore also interested in thinking about it.
But the way F1 and LeManPrototype goes, would it be yet again the money wins, and a driver to become a puppet in a computer?


#255 Ben1445

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 11:39

Many German car companies does this.
 
Looking it, I can hardly avoid thinking; Is there any way for a new series, a series with open formula for chassis-motor building?
 
Hard to start new series, tho, now that Porsche, BMW, AUDI, Merc, Nissan had lined up for this series... But therefore also interested in thinking about it.
But the way F1 and LeManPrototype goes, would it be yet again the money wins, and a driver to become a puppet in a computer?

FE has kept the open development areas to motor/inverter/gearbox/rear suspension/software and kept the chassis-battery spec for that reason. It's all about mitigating a spending war or one team dominating which would easily have killed a new series dead. This way they've had the major manufacturers all come in on relatively level footing (they all took at least one win last season). 

 

If we are to see complete open development of an electric racing car, I think it will be Formula E (or F1 in a weird future twist of plans - it has the brand strength for it) opening itself up once it considered itself to be stable enough to support it. I don't think a brand new series could do it. 



#256 RSRally

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 08:36

FE should always be about the powertrain and if they free up development it should be in that area. Chassis/aero development will only add cost and not improve the racing or increase development of electric vehicles.

#257 SonGoku

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 08:41

I think domination kills FE, the fact everybody can win is the strong selling point of the series.

Plus FE is very relevant. Merc basically got out DTM and put that money in FE and who can blame them? Even WEC starts a new formula to stay relevant.

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 08:57

FE should always be about the powertrain and if they free up development it should be in that area. Chassis/aero development will only add cost and not improve the racing or increase development of electric vehicles.

 

I agree, although it might be interesting as the tracks get bigger if they could have a version of Indycar's aerokits, where different aero parts were produced and teams had the option to mix and match.
 
Low downforce, high top speed vs high downforce, low top speed definitely does make a good race. For example.
 
Speaking of Indycar, are suspension components spec or is development allowed in that area as well as powertrains?


#259 Vielleicht

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:03

Nico Mueller takes the Dragon seat

https://e-racing365....dragon-line-up/

 

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#260 thegamer23

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:21

Hell yeah!
I've been rooting for his debut for years.
He just seems comfortable in driving Formula E cars, always fast in testing.

Muller-Hartley. Stellar lineup if you ask me!  :up:  :up:


Edited by thegamer23, 18 September 2019 - 08:24.


#261 thegamer23

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:32

Updated grid

 

 

DS Techeetah: Jean-Eric Vergne - Antonio Felix da Costa

Audi Sport Abt Schaeffler: Lucas di Grassi - Daniel Abt

Virgin-Audi: Sam Bird - Robin Frijns

Nissan e.dams: Sébastien Buemi - Oliver Rowland

BMW Andretti: Alexander Sims - Maximilian Günther

Mahindra: Jérôme D'Ambrosio - Pascal Wehrlein

Jaguar: Mitch Evans - Alex Lynn

Venturi: Edoardo Mortara - Felipe Massa

Mercedes: Stoffel Vandoorne  - Nyck de Vries 

Dragon: Brendon Hartley - Nico Müller 

NIO: Oliver Turvey  - Tom Dillmann

Porsche: André Lotterer - Neel Jani

 

 

Green: Confirmed

Yellow: TBC


Edited by thegamer23, 18 September 2019 - 08:33.


#262 RSRally

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:35

I would be very surprised if Mahindra change their lineup or Mortara & Sims leave their teams. Real questionmarks are the second Jaguar and NIO.

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:44

NIO might even change lineup completely this season.

Hopefully the car/electric p.u is better than last year tho. A friend of mine was in Bern watching the race, and the NIO cars were all over the place compared to all the others. 

Turvey & Dillmann are decent drivers. But i feel they need a very strong N.1 driver even from a marketing point of view. 

NIO was just invisible last season. Dull livery, slow car, dull lineup


Edited by thegamer23, 18 September 2019 - 08:50.


#264 Vielleicht

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 09:05

NIO's change of ownership to Lisheng Racing (TCR China promotors) is defintely a bit of a wildcard. Could end up with either very little difference or a major shake-up.



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 09:09

I think NIO should be concentrating on improving the car rather than changing the driver lineup personally.

#266 Vielleicht

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 10:02

Yeah, Turvey is a very expererienced driver, especially in test and development. I think it would be a mistake to lose him.



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 10:03

I'm liking how this lineup is developing  :up:



#268 Ben1445

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 11:13

Two or three years ago we were saying that FE had one of if not the best driver lineups outside of F1. This one already looks a leap above the field of a few years ago. 



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 11:30

Two or three years ago we were saying that FE had one of if not the best driver lineups outside of F1. This one already looks a leap above the field of a few years ago. 

 

Misses Jarno Trulli and team IMO.



#270 maximilian

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Posted 24 September 2019 - 08:40

So is Jaguar going to bag Nico Hulkenberg?  :wave:



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Posted 25 September 2019 - 12:01

Surprise!

James Calado close to a deal with Jaguar to partner Mitch Evans!

https://e-racing365....guar-race-seat/

 

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#272 Anja

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 12:08

Huh, who saw that coming? I rated him pretty highly in his GP2 years and would be intrigued to see how well he could do here. 



#273 HistoryFan

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 13:36

Hoped that Hülkenberg would get the Jaguar seat but he is not interested in Formula E I think.



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Posted 25 September 2019 - 14:25

Hoped that Hülkenberg would get the Jaguar seat but he is not interested in Formula E I think.

 

Well, I can't blame him, the F1 -> FE transition must be the most underwhelming one a professional driver can make nowadays (from a pure driving/racing point of view).



#275 Silberpfeil

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 16:55

Surprise!

James Calado close to a deal with Jaguar to partner Mitch Evans!
https://e-racing365....guar-race-seat/

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A shame for Lynn, but Calado is a really good choice. Experienced guy, and a very good GT racer. One of the Rosenqvist category of drivers where you always wonder what could have been with a proper shot at F1.

#276 Ben1445

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 19:53

Well, I can't blame him, the F1 -> FE transition must be the most underwhelming one a professional driver can make nowadays (from a pure driving/racing point of view).

Depends on your mindset, I think. You'd have thought LMP1 to FE would be fairly similar but Lotterer says FE is so difficult to drive and they have so much to do in the cockpit that it makes LMP1 seem like a piece of cake. 

 

I think expectations and mindset still plays a massive part in all that. 



#277 balage06

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 07:35

Depends on your mindset, I think. You'd have thought LMP1 to FE would be fairly similar but Lotterer says FE is so difficult to drive and they have so much to do in the cockpit that it makes LMP1 seem like a piece of cake. 

 

I think expectations and mindset still plays a massive part in all that. 

 

Yeah, but I've never heard a single driver say that the FE car is enjoyable to drive. Of course, successful drivers use terms like "challenging", but you can tell it's a frustrating experience, especially after you try it out on a simulator for example.



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Posted 26 September 2019 - 08:48

Mitch Evans confirmed as #1 Jaguar Driver

 



#279 Ben1445

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 10:16

Yeah, but I've never heard a single driver say that the FE car is enjoyable to drive. Of course, successful drivers use terms like "challenging", but you can tell it's a frustrating experience, especially after you try it out on a simulator for example.


I would have thought that more difficult to drive results in being more satisfying to master...

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#280 Vielleicht

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 13:33

Yeah, but I've never heard a single driver say that the FE car is enjoyable to drive. Of course, successful drivers use terms like "challenging", but you can tell it's a frustrating experience, especially after you try it out on a simulator for example.

Really? I think it is quite common to heat them talk favouribly about the instant torque of the electric motors when asked. If electric karts are anything to go by I can compeltely beleive that they are enjoyable cars to drive, even if difficult.



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Posted 26 September 2019 - 15:12

Really? I think it is quite common to heat them talk favouribly about the instant torque of the electric motors when asked. If electric karts are anything to go by I can compeltely beleive that they are enjoyable cars to drive, even if difficult.

 

That's just a small part of the whole driving experience. But of course we would enjoy it, I'm talking about switching from F1 to FE. It's a completely different experience, even compared to LMP cars. I think both Hülkenberg and Alonso said that driving those is relatively easy with previous single seater experience. LMP are also high-tech, full of electronic aids and equipped with those amazing Michelin tyres, drivers can push them to the limit without much less compromise.



#282 Vielleicht

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 18:33

That's just a small part of the whole driving experience. But of course we would enjoy it, I'm talking about switching from F1 to FE. It's a completely different experience, even compared to LMP cars. I think both Hülkenberg and Alonso said that driving those is relatively easy with previous single seater experience. LMP are also high-tech, full of electronic aids and equipped with those amazing Michelin tyres, drivers can push them to the limit without much less compromise.

I can see where're you are coming from. Underwhelming is perhaps not the word I would use though.


Edited by Vielleicht, 26 September 2019 - 19:29.


#283 JimmyTheFox

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 21:43

So is Jaguar going to bag Nico Hulkenberg? :wave:


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Possibly.

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:16

Uh oh

That's interesting

And probably not a coincidence, given he himself admitted that there are offers from FE.


Edited by thegamer23, 27 September 2019 - 09:32.


#285 Vielleicht

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 10:23

What seats are left?

 

One Jaguar

One BMW

Both Mahindras

Both NIOs

 

6 more drivers to come!



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 16:07

Possibly Chinese driver to be paired with Oliver Turvey at NIO:

 

“We are under a lot of discussions with drivers about next season but we would rally want to have a Chinese driver,” Wang told e-racing365. These are former NIO racer Ma Qing Hua and Renault young drivers Guanyu Zhou and Ye Yifei, who compete in FIA Formula 2 and FIA Formula 3 this season, respectively. 

 

Dillman still in the frame.

 

https://e-racing365....chinese-driver/



#287 thegamer23

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 17:15

Zhou would be a great addition, but i think he'll do another season in F2 at least.

Ma Qing Hua, oh no, not again!

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 17:20

JAGUAR #2 driver to be announced tomorrow.

FE is hyping up the event quite a bit on their social feeds, so i guess it might be a special name 😎

Or not!

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Edited by thegamer23, 01 October 2019 - 17:26.


#289 Vielleicht

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 17:56

That Mahindra teaser image? Well...

 

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#290 Ben1445

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Posted 02 October 2019 - 07:36

That Mahindra teaser image? Well...

 

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That is amazing. 

 

 

JAGUAR #2 driver to be announced tomorrow.

FE is hyping up the event quite a bit on their social feeds, so i guess it might be a special name
 

 

Will be interesting to find out later! 



#291 Marklar

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Posted 02 October 2019 - 07:55

This teaser image looks like they freaking burned up the car

#292 thegamer23

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Posted 02 October 2019 - 12:02

James Calado completes the Jaguar lineup.