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#51 ch103

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 12:15

I know its early but Suzuki may have delivered a bike that can fight for victories regularly.  Hoping Rins can continue the success he ended the season with.  



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#52 messy

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 12:17

If Rins can slightly improve his qualifying, he'll be a real force. I'm looking forward to seeing it. 



#53 Reinmuster

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 19:07

New number for Viñales?

 

Yes, he announced it last year.

 

https://www.autospor...number-for-2019



#54 DS27

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 19:55

Not being fully fit after his op sure hasn't slowed Marquez down much.



#55 ch103

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 21:52

Not being fully fit after his op sure hasn't slowed Marquez down much.

 

True but he has said long runs are impossible in his current condition.  While I want to see someone else win the title, I want whoever it is to win against a 100% MM93.



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Posted 06 February 2019 - 23:25

True but he has said long runs are impossible in his current condition.  While I want to see someone else win the title, I want whoever it is to win against a 100% MM93.

 

Agreed, that is a serious operation he's had and one he may never fully recover from, although I really hope he does !! It maybe a battle for the rest of his time in MotoGP, he's a young man, time is on his side. 

 

Just have to watch and enjoy how good this kid is for as long as it lasts because this is an extremely abrasive sport and the very best can and will get dropped quickly

 

Fingers crossed recovery puts him back to 100%   



#57 paulstevens56

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 00:29

Marquez bounces better than any rider I have ever known, and it seems he was winning last year with half a shoulder, it popped out so often.

 

But, what we all think is him bouncing well, is actually him just smiling through it, he has this I cant be hurt aura.

 

Hopefully this slows hi down a bit, but I doubt it



#58 DS27

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 19:43

Well, that's some Ducati Domination on the final day of testing. P1 to P4 locked out.



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Posted 09 February 2019 - 00:32

Well, that's some Ducati Domination on the final day of testing. P1 to P4 locked out.

 

Bear in mind both Honda riders are injured, Yamaha is getting to grips with their new bike and I'm hopeful that Rins focused on long runs with used tires :)  

 

Still a month until the lights go out in Qatar.  Really excited to get this season started!



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#60 paulstevens56

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 13:48

A fit Marquez will disappear as usual.

 

If Vinales can get the bike right every week, he could be there, Ducati will have their good times as will Suzuki, but if you think anyone but a now fully fit Marquez can win, then you ain't been watching this series for the past few years.



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Posted 09 February 2019 - 14:06

A fit Marquez will disappear as usual.

 

If Vinales can get the bike right every week, he could be there, Ducati will have their good times as will Suzuki, but if you think anyone but a now fully fit Marquez can win, then you ain't been watching this series for the past few years.

 

A healthy MM93 is the benchmark and will undoubtedly be the favorite.  However, everyone's run comes to an end at some point or another and based on the number of times he dislocated his shoulder last year, I wouldn't be surprised if this injury is worse than he is letting on.  This is a golden era for MotoGP, super happy for it.



#62 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 16:36

I also believe Marquez is still the firm favourite. However, Honda has lost Pedrosa and I believe he has always been a major asset in bike development?

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 21:14

I am not so sure about that, the bike has been developed largely around Marquez, I would say Cal is highly valued by Honda, he pushes them and has won races on a sort of private bike, so I think Cal is probably more lose to the setups and things, what he can't do is lead the philosophy, that is all down to MM, and if you don't ride like him,  well.

 

Dani had his chance to be that man, was that man but injury and early 990 era poor overtaking cost him.



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Posted 11 February 2019 - 00:48

I know I'm late to this, but I don't think that Yamaha livery works at all. It looks like the bike has been crashed and they'd had to rummage in the spare parts bin, and ended up using bits from last year's Tech 3 machine. Too much black and not enough blue. 

 

But if it's a lot more competitive than last year's bike than I can forgive the livery. I know it's easy to read too much into testing, but hopefully everyone can step up and give Marquez a much harder time of it this year.



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Posted 11 February 2019 - 14:07

I dont know what Sepang really tells us. Yamaha looks good and so does everyone else. Yamaha was incredibly strong and was a match for Honda. I dare say a younger Rossi would have won a few months ago on a bike that was poor for most of the season. Dovi won the year before as well. It would have been better to see what things are like at Jerez, or Austria that have unique characteristics. Marc is the favorite no doubt.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 14:59

[...] Marc is the favorite no doubt.


A little too injured, to my mind, in order to say that Márquez is the favourite.

And Lorenzo is no Pedrosa. Not that Lorenzo is overall better than Márquez but Lorenzo is not someone, who, although his champion teammate has more bad luck than him can not convert those circumstances into the title (like Webber in 2010). He is more like those teammate competitors who can convert the mishaps of his champion teammate into the title (like Prost and Rosberg did in 1989 and 2016 respectively).

It won't be easy for Márquez.

#67 messy

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 17:05

If this injury does peg Marquez back longer term (not that I think it will), then that would be massively sad for MotoGP. Yes he wins all the time, but seeing him go about his business you know you're watching something special.

#68 paulstevens56

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 21:08

He is playing the mind game, he will be fine for the season start, he was riding with almost with a dislocated shoulder of a kind most of last year



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Posted 11 February 2019 - 21:19

If this injury does peg Marquez back longer term (not that I think it will), then that would be massively sad for MotoGP. Yes he wins all the time, but seeing him go about his business you know you're watching something special.


22 crashes or so last year?

If he keeps this up, he will be done riding in 2-3 years.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 22:53

22 crashes or so last year?

If he keeps this up, he will be done riding in 2-3 years.

 

As he gets older, I think he'll start crashing less anyway. He already crashes out of far fewer races than he used to.



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Posted 15 February 2019 - 14:37

As he gets older, I think he'll start crashing less anyway. He already crashes out of far fewer races than he used to.


He still crashes regularly in practice though.

#72 DS27

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 17:09

I stopped watching for most of last year, but WSBK kicks off next weekend for anyone who is suffering from the lack of two wheeled action recently. Phillip Island is always good to watch regardless.

 

Recently, riders stepping over from Moto GP haven't done well, but that has often been down to the bike, and there is a real chance that Bautista could do very well on the Ducati and shake this series up. It needs it.



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Posted 16 February 2019 - 19:18

If this injury does peg Marquez back longer term (not that I think it will), then that would be massively sad for MotoGP. Yes he wins all the time, but seeing him go about his business you know you're watching something special.


He should be fine, my biggest interest is seeing a fully fit Marquez going against a fully fit Lorenzo so fingers crossed!

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:35

Hate watching Honda linger around 10 place in WSBK, best rider 12 last year, don't expect it to change much even with their new team. The bike is not good enough.

 

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#75 paulstevens56

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:47

Let's face it sticking a man who was not good enough for BSB even 2 years ago is hardly a step into the future.

 

They managed to lose Red Bull within 2 years and Ten Kate, it might work this new team, but I doubt it.

 

I feel most sorry for Camier, he never seems to be in the right place at the right time, Aprilia with Biaggi, Suzuki when it was awful, MV when it broke down all the time, such a shame



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 14:14

Bautista for a debut triple at PI this weekend? Has anyone before had a debut double in WSBK?

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 14:45

Spies was on pole in his first WSBK race. Finished 16th. He won Race 2.

 

He did win both races of the 2nd round in Losail. 2009.

 

 

I dig Philip Island. 



#78 Nova

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 15:26

BMW in seccond, Honda 11th. For ..... sake Honda. Go all in or pull out.



#79 DS27

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 15:30

Bautista looks like he could do a lot of winning at the weekend and the rest of the year for that matter. There's a chance he could realign some thoughts around the talent gap between GP and WSBK and just how good Rea is. Rea's records are great, but who has he beat? His teammate Sykes, and Chaz on the Ducati. Chaz has had his backside handed to him on a plate so far in testing by Bautista, routinely being a second and a half off him (granted he is always stronger in the races, but that's a big gap). It could turn out that if Bautista had been on the Ducati for the last few years then Rea's record would not be anywhere near as impressive.

 

I guess we need to bear in mind that Bautista generally goes well around PI. Wasn't he running near the front there last year in GP? He ultimately DNF'd I think, but seem to remember him being strong there.



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 15:36

Bautista for a debut triple at PI this weekend? Has anyone before had a debut double in WSBK?

 

John Kocinski did it in 1996 when Anthony Gobert was stripped of his race 2 win, and Max Biaggi missed out by less than a second in 2007.



#81 paulstevens56

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 22:09

The point being missed is that perhaps this new bike is staggeringly good!  It just be to be this quick already, plus I would think Dorna have not yet worked out how to effectively penalise the thing, that will come if they dominate.



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 22:12

Philip Island is usually highly misleading in terms of competitive hierarchies.  It's why it's also the best weekend on the calendar every year.  

 

Certainly wouldn't go by anything just from the results here, much less just testing/practice before the actual race weekend. 



#83 messy

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 16:56

Bautista was an underrated MotoGP rider for a long time, under the radar totally but always seemed to beat his team-mates and the other riders on older bikes, sometimes getting himself right in the mix with fourths and fifths on merit. Can't recall anybody else doing that, at least not as consistently. So it doesn't shock me that he's looking so strong in WSBK.

To be honest, it'll just be nice to see Rea not having everything going his way. He had Davies and particularly Sykes covered. It got boring.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 00:20

Ducati seem to have a 6 or 7kmh over anyone in a straight line in Superbikes. Will be a pretty big advantage.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 09:55

I'm a bit surprised to see Haslam so close to Rea.



#86 Ncedi

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 14:12

Loving the Aprilia livery!

#87 Ncedi

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 14:16

I'm a bit surprised to see Haslam so close to Rea.


Equally so, if he can do it consistently that'll make things interesting

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 14:50

For anyone who plans on watching, don't forget WSBK is now 3 races per weekend; 1 on Saturday and two on Sunday.



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Posted 23 February 2019 - 08:27

What a ride from Bautista. He opened such a big gap early on in the race that I was expecting a bit of a tire drop-off, but no, the gap continued to increase lap after lap.

 

A shame that Haslam dropped it when running second, after trading overtakes with Rea in the first few laps. Would have been interesting to see if he could keep up with Rea until the end of the race.

 

To note also the positive result for Yamaha with 3 bikes in the top 5.

 

A bit like Melbourne for F1, Philip Island is usually not the most representative track in terms of bike/rider hierarchies, so I am hoping to see closer racing between Bautista, Rea, Haslam and Davies (if he manages to overcome whatever problems  he is facing right now). I don't mind Rea winning (talent should be rewarded), but it is good for the series, and makes for more entertaining racing, if the championship battle lasts till the end of the season.



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Posted 23 February 2019 - 11:36

Nobody?

 

Rea pole time - 1:29:413 - would be a P2 in the 2018 GP race (MM was on pole with 1:29.199).

Haslam's P2 time would worth a P3.

Bau's time (1:29.729)  was P3 here and would a P5 there. Bau time in GP Q1 (1:29:851) was a bit slower so Miller's time in Q2 (1.30.140)

 

Sykes (P4) could land in P5 in GP.

Lowes P5 time was only 0,4sec slower then the fastest GP Yamaha time (Vignales) and 0,3 sec faster than rossis time. He also could finis in P5 in the GP.

 

 

 

Camier was 1,5 sec slower than MM.



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Posted 23 February 2019 - 11:50

Ducati: 
Dominant ride from Bautista, congratulations to him! Last year he shows his real talen in Philip, he show it again.
But don't forget, Ducati has +1700 rpm + Ducati was dominant here in last year too.
 
But what about the other Ducati? Daves in not fit. If he will not able to recover, maybe his carrier will ending this year. It is a shame he got to much injuries when the bike was not good enough, and now, when ge get the the potential winnig maschine
 
Rinaldi - he didn't convine me last year. Lavery and Goeleven: Bitubo has a lot of work to do.
 
Kawasaki: 
Rea should woried about thw other two factory guy. Haslam had the race speed untill he fell, and Razga was quick too. I don't know Razga will get the factory bike in every race or not, but if yeas, he might be a reralthreat too.
 
Torres and Mercado: Their bike represents a different level.
 
Yamaha:
Both Yamaha was strong - but they was usually stong here in the last years. Congrats to MM but Cortese was also good in his first race i na big bike.
 
BMW:
Sykes was strong, we exoect some tyre problem in the end phase. As I here they will get a new engine +15HP from Aragon.
Reiti has to find 0,5sec/lap. Maybe he should discuss with Alonso. If the can find a quick solution for the top speed issue and the tyre degradation...
 
Honda:
That was even worst than the last two years, so it is clear for me thet the last 2 season"s nightmire was not the Ten Kate-s fault. The bike shouldn"t be new for HRC and Moriwaki, because they race with that in Japan.
 
Poor Camier..
 
Aprilia:
Big shame they are not here. 
 
Suzuki:
According to rumors at least one bike will be ready to race from Aragon. Ten-Kate-Yoshimura-Baz


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Posted 23 February 2019 - 12:30

15 seconds, isn't SBK racing supposed to be close and isn't racing always close at PI.  Nice on Dorna



#93 Ncedi

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 14:46

Does the MotoGP test get streamed live anywhere? Paid or not

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 14:56

Two possibilities after today's race: Bautista is a class apart compared to the current SBK riders or Ducati V4 is one hell of a bike!

(Or both)

Edited by thegamer23, 23 February 2019 - 15:07.


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Posted 23 February 2019 - 16:06

Does the MotoGP test get streamed live anywhere? Paid or not

 

As far as I know, there is no live feed for this test session. There is only an After the Flag special on the MotoGP website at around 7.30pm CET.

 

Lorenzo with the HRC colors

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 18:28

Two possibilities after today's race: Bautista is a class apart compared to the current SBK riders or Ducati V4 is one hell of a bike!

(Or both)


A midfield rider in MotoGP usually equals to a winner or even a champion in WSBK. MotoGP is clear top class in terms of rider talent.

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 23:21

Two possibilities after today's race: Bautista is a class apart compared to the current SBK riders or Ducati V4 is one hell of a bike!

(Or both)

 

More than two factors I think:

 

  • The Ducati is a monster
  • Bautista was a good Moto GP rider and will be a class apart, other than Rea
  • Bautista likes PI
  • Rea doesn't really like PI

 

Lets hope Bautista doesn't dominate all year to this extent - it could make the Rea years seem close.



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Posted 23 February 2019 - 23:37

I would guess the bike will get pegged back if this happens all weekend, Dorna can do this.

 

Rea would also be mid grid in GP, but anyone who thinks back when he shunned GP he was worse than Abraham, Petrucci, even Crutchlow, ave a word!  Fair play to Haslam, looking good when I never thought he would, but always good at PI.

 

GP testing, Rins yet again showing speed, seems like Yam have built a Vinales bike like they did 2 years ago, Rossi is going to ahve to adapt.  Honda nowhere as are KTM.

 

Impressed with Rabat again and Quattro (easier to type) and Petrucci, really showing well.

less so Miller and Bagnaia this time so far.



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Posted 24 February 2019 - 01:19

Bautista wins the Superpole Race after beating Rea in a very nice battle, and will start from pole in Race 2!

The sprint race format showed a much more competitive Rea, Kawasaki seems to struggle with tyre management in the longer main races.

Edited by thegamer23, 24 February 2019 - 01:24.


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#100 NixxxoN

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 09:43

  • The Ducati is a monster
The other Ducati riders are 9/11/13 in the standings, they must be so bad if the bike is that good

WSBK feels like a 2nd division class competition, heck, even a 40 years old Checa won the championship

Edited by NixxxoN, 24 February 2019 - 09:50.