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#1951 Pete_f1

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 09:36

I know a lot of people don't like Marquez but fair play to him for high fiveing the Ducati boss when he got to Parc Ferme

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#1952 Ncedi

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 12:10

Alex Marquez re-signs for MVDS after Petronas move vetoed by Yamaha. Apparently this is linked to Yamaha still being sour over Sepang 2015 but to punish Alex Marquez??

Here's an article around Lin Jarvis saying the same: https://www.motorcyc...a-marc-marquez/

Edited by Ncedi, 13 August 2019 - 12:19.


#1953 Jazza

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 12:35

Just like Alonso and Honda, it’s amazing seeing massive corporations holding grudges like this.

How can a company hate someone that much that they would not only throw away championships (Marc on a Yamaha, and therefore also Honda without him), but that they even hate his brother just for being related to him?

That is some serious school yard heart break type revenge going on there.

#1954 MCR

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 14:36

Alex Marquez re-signs for MVDS after Petronas move vetoed by Yamaha. Apparently this is linked to Yamaha still being sour over Sepang 2015 but to punish Alex Marquez??

Here's an article around Lin Jarvis saying the same: https://www.motorcyc...a-marc-marquez/

 

Bullcrap..  There is a much simpler explanation, Aleix isn't good enough.  There are load of people that I would choose before AM.


Edited by MCR, 13 August 2019 - 14:36.


#1955 Atreiu

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 15:46

Just like Alonso and Honda, it’s amazing seeing massive corporations holding grudges like this.

How can a company hate someone that much that they would not only throw away championships (Marc on a Yamaha, and therefore also Honda without him), but that they even hate his brother just for being related to him?

That is some serious school yard heart break type revenge going on there.

 

 

HRC and Biaggi, if we keep it to bikes.



#1956 ehagar

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 15:58

HRC and Biaggi, if we keep it to bikes.

 

 

Well, remember he didn't have a ride ANYWHERE for 1 season. It seemed like no Japanese teams in MotoGP would touch him. He was toxic.



#1957 NixxxoN

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 16:25

Yamaha are stupid to act like that, even more so since they are struggling for so many time. Marquez issue was with Rossi not Yamaha. Yamaha should "thank" Rossi himself for losing it in 2016.

They may veto but inside their minds they know they would love to have Marc at Yamaha.



#1958 as65p

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 17:14

They may veto but inside their minds they know they would love to have Marc at Yamaha.

 

I think they would rather love to be able and build a bike to beat Honda (and Marquez) with.



#1959 Atreiu

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 19:33

As I understand it, Yamaha have all 4 riders for 2020. Was Alex after a 5th bike? Anyhow, it does not make the Marquez ban any more or less reasonable.

 

But something remains queer in Yamaha. Petronas have raised the budget so Quartararo gets a factory spec bike in 2020, but Yamaha have not yet committed to it. What the hell could be holding them back? Rossi, Maverick, the factory team itself? This hesitation is incredibly dangerous. HRC, KTM or Ducati might just wave a fat check with a factory bike attatched in front of Quartararo and he might just leave.

 

All three of those factories have money, means and reasons to pursue Quartararo. How stupid will Yamaha look if they lose him?



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#1960 messy

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 19:41

Just like Alonso and Honda, it’s amazing seeing massive corporations holding grudges like this.
How can a company hate someone that much that they would not only throw away championships (Marc on a Yamaha, and therefore also Honda without him), but that they even hate his brother just for being related to him?
That is some serious school yard heart break type revenge going on there.


I understand Honda wanting Alonso to go take a running jump because he openly and publicly mocked them.

This is totally, totally different, Alex Marquez doesn’t deserve to be punished for something his brother did give years ago. Crazy.

#1961 Rodaknee

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 20:52

This is totally, totally different, Alex Marquez doesn’t deserve to be punished for something his brother did give years ago. Crazy.

 

This is about keeping Rossi sweet.  There are plans for Rossi to run a 2nd Yamaha team when he finally hangs up his boots.  Yamaha believe they need Rossi to help sales.  It's Rossi who has the problem with the Marquez family.



#1962 as65p

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:09

I understand Honda wanting Alonso to go take a running jump because he openly and publicly mocked them.

This is totally, totally different,

 

Indeed it is. With Alonso it was ultimately just words (while doing his best at what he was paid for, driving the car with that marvellous lump in the back).

 

What Yamaha feels Marquez did to them OTOH involved a bit more than just words.

 

Alex Marquez doesn’t deserve to be punished for something his brother did give years ago. Crazy.

 

That's true, he doesn't deserve it. At the same time he hasn't any rights to demand a Yamaha MotoGP seat.



#1963 Ncedi

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 16:17

The thing is it wasn't Alex Marquez demanding a Yamaha. Petronas approached him with a more obvious path to MotoGP. Yamaha vetoed Petronas from signing Marquez and ultimately putting him on their bike. Leaving MVDS to Petronas without a route to MotoGP makes no sense.

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#1964 HPT

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 21:58

We are talking about Rossi or Jarvis blocking Alex Márquez’s move because of Marc but this article says that it is because of Alzamora. Yamaha doesn’t want him in their garage. It’s in Indonesian but that’s what it says:

https://www.google.c...-15949.html/amp

#1965 Pete_f1

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 14:33

https://www.bbc.co.u...rshire-49355787 Danny Kent: World champion rider admits carrying knife during scuffle What a plonker. (My brother used to give him a lift to work as they worked at the same place and lived around the corner from each other)

Edited by Pete_f1, 15 August 2019 - 14:34.


#1966 Rodaknee

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 14:48

https://www.bbc.co.u...rshire-49355787 Danny Kent: World champion rider admits carrying knife during scuffle What a plonker. (My brother used to give him a lift to work as they worked at the same place and lived around the corner from each other)

 

Working as a debt collector - on the slippery slope.



#1967 Atreiu

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 15:24

Jesus, seems like one of those stories which we know won't end well but still have to see happen in slow motion.



#1968 KinoNoNo

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 16:44

https://www.bbc.co.u...rshire-49355787 Danny Kent: World champion rider admits carrying knife during scuffle What a plonker. (My brother used to give him a lift to work as they worked at the same place and lived around the corner from each other)

Wow, life came at him fast.



#1969 messy

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 16:46

Danny Kent......from the second he crossed the line to win the British Grand Prix in Moto3 back in what, 2015, his career has been an absolute ****ing car crash. Terrible. Almost choked the title from a seemingly unassailable position, crashed and burned in Moto2 then oblivion. It’s sad. At one point I really believed in him.

#1970 Pete_f1

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 16:52

Sorry for the formatting of my post, I was using my win 10 instead of my tablet.

His career has gone down the swanny

#1971 ch103

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 00:21

So KTM and Tech3 have both left Moto2 to focus on MotoGP and Moto3.  In Tech3's case, they never entered Moto3 before.  Is the strategy here that a manufacturer has to lock in the next MM93 at the Moto3 level, arrange for a Moto2 ride and then promote to the MotoGP team?



#1972 ehagar

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 01:09

So KTM and Tech3 have both left Moto2 to focus on MotoGP and Moto3.  In Tech3's case, they never entered Moto3 before.  Is the strategy here that a manufacturer has to lock in the next MM93 at the Moto3 level, arrange for a Moto2 ride and then promote to the MotoGP team?

 

 

Maybe. Moto2 championships don't seem to mean in regards to how well a rider will adapt to MotoGP machinery. 



#1973 Rodaknee

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 03:48

Danny Kent......from the second he crossed the line to win the British Grand Prix in Moto3 back in what, 2015, his career has been an absolute ****ing car crash. Terrible. Almost choked the title from a seemingly unassailable position, crashed and burned in Moto2 then oblivion. It’s sad. At one point I really believed in him.

 

Apparently Kent starting acting like he was royalty in Moto2.  He's lost the MV ride in BSB, Gino Rea is riding the bike at Cadwell this weekend.



#1974 Disgrace

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 06:11

Well, that's rock bottom if ever I saw one.



#1975 ehagar

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 13:37

I lost the worst ride in BSB. Hoo boy. Rock bottom indeed.



#1976 Rodaknee

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 20:02

Motorcycle racers know they're going to fall off a couple of times in a season.  Sometimes they get knocked off their bikes by another riders, but FFS for Scott Redding to be taken out by Andrew Irwin 3 times this year is unbelievable.  I can see some 'back of the garages' action taking place is Irwin goes anywhere near Scott during the rest of the season.

 

https://www.bikespor...r-redding-clash



#1977 Sash1

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 07:57

https://www.racespor...-het-programma/

 

Open Electric Superbike competition bike catches fire while charging in Assen last friday.

They only had one real race this year and it is cancelled because of this incident. 
 

To be honest, I do not think that electric bikes have a future. The batteries are to fragile. Just drop the bike in the pit, or worse, crash it and the battery should be replaced. In our firefighters squad we also notice more and more e-bicycle fires which are related to dropped bikes and crashes. 



#1978 Jazza

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 12:20

Surely a dropped bike is nothing compared to the kinetic energy that goes through a Formula E and F1 car during just normal laps, let alone crashes. We’re not seeing race car batteries going up in flames despite the hard knocks they endure, so wouldn’t this issue be something more specific to the battery design in MotoE? Meaning, it’s not impossible to build an electric bike that doesn’t explode, it’s just that MotoE has failed to do so...

#1979 Sash1

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 05:09

The batteries in an e-bike are more exposed to penetration and bending. The packaging in cars is much better. Just a sudden high g-force or a hard hit without bending or penetration will no do much damage to batteries.
We (our firefighting station) experience more and more e-bicycle and e-scooter related incidents where damaged batteries play a role.

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#1980 sushantf1

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 19:11

Lorenzo will return next race.



#1981 Atreiu

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 19:40

At this point I expect him to be horribly slow and do all in his powers to just no crash. This in turn will upset HRC even more and the season will end with neither one wanting to be around the other.



#1982 Pete_f1

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 06:48

Lorenzo will return next race.


Does anyone care now, was my first response. I know they do but it's hard to see what he can do. Has his career hit the buffers?

#1983 messy

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:04

Lorenzo will return next race.


Yay, can’t wait to see him finish 15th! It’s been too long.

#1984 milestone 11

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 09:12

Bruce Anstey back on the pace immediately after two years out at Classic TT.

#1985 ehagar

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Posted 23 August 2019 - 02:31

At this point I expect him to be horribly slow and do all in his powers to just no crash. This in turn will upset HRC even more and the season will end with neither one wanting to be around the other.

 

Perhaps. At the start of the year I expected him to finish anywhere from 6th-12th with occasional spurts of  pace, then figure out the bike by years end. For whatever reason when the man loses confidence he can be really embarrassing (he had some serious funks at Yamaha even). The injury probably set him back for the rest of the season, and worst of all he really poisoned the well on his relationship with HRC. 

 

I'm not a fan but when everything is right he can be damn impressive. That ship might have sailed.



#1986 Atreiu

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Posted 23 August 2019 - 11:49

HRC should send spies disguised as marshalls to recover crashed M1s and never return them.



#1987 Disgrace

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Posted 23 August 2019 - 17:08

Pretty astonishing how quickly Bautista/Ducati disintegrated, isn't it?



#1988 as65p

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 11:08

Lorenzo... I mean seriously. He would have damaged his reputation far less had he just declared to sit out the rest of the season to fully recover from his injuries. 



#1989 milestone 11

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 11:10

All about money it seems. Scott Redding to take his place.



#1990 OO7

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 13:10

Lovely piece with Tito and the marshals & medics who helped save his life last year.



#1991 messy

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 13:19

Pretty astonishing how quickly Bautista/Ducati disintegrated, isn't it?


It is. Unless Honda completely change their approach he’s going to be an also-ran next year while Redding rides his Rocketship. He had the chance to establish himself as an instant legend in WSB regardless of his title assault hitting a couple of snags but seems to have happily given that up for the £££.

#1992 NixxxoN

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 13:38

This track should not be very good for the Honda (or for the Ducati), but its good for the more nimble and good handling bikes, I can see Quartararo getting pole and the two official yamahas doing well, Suzukis too



#1993 NixxxoN

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 13:53

Woah. Well, Marquez is just... being Marquez. I dont think the Honda is the best bike here and he got tow from Rossi, but still... Good job by Rossi and Miller too btw


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#1994 thegamer23

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 13:54

Yay rossi is back!

#1995 Rodaknee

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 16:31

It is. Unless Honda completely change their approach he’s going to be an also-ran next year while Redding rides his Rocketship. He had the chance to establish himself as an instant legend in WSB regardless of his title assault hitting a couple of snags but seems to have happily given that up for the £££.

 

One rider will be pleased with Bauista swapping to Honda, I reckon Chaz Davies may have been replaced by Redding without the move.



#1996 Nova

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Posted 24 August 2019 - 20:36

Lorenzo... I mean seriously. He would have damaged his reputation far less had he just declared to sit out the rest of the season to fully recover from his injuries. 

 

 

 

 

Wayne Gardner on the Rothmans Honda, unrideable bike, broken leg and a flapping fairing. Philip Island 1990.



#1997 JeePee

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Posted 25 August 2019 - 10:08

Why do they use the old pits?

#1998 AlexPrime

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Posted 25 August 2019 - 11:38

Another instant classic from Moto3. Love this series.



#1999 NixxxoN

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Posted 25 August 2019 - 11:59

Here goes MotoGP, should be a close and exciting race, Marquez vs the Yamahas



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Posted 25 August 2019 - 12:09

Buhbye championship. Thanks Quarty.