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#4301 MirNyet

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:38

Yes. This. Yeah just finished Qualifying. So much for the so-called 'experts, like we said.

 

So, yeah, same as it ever was, at least in Q. After being told all thru winter testing and ever since by the 'experts' that McLaren were only quicker than Williams ... they're fifth. The same experts also had Merc behind Ferrari. Just goes to show how hard winter testing is to read ... even when you're trackside. If you don't know what you're looking at, then you don't know what you don;t know.

 

We'll see tonight though, how different race pace will be compared to Q.

 

They're saying others 'under performed' thus elevating McLaren who they expect to fall back during the race.  Yes, this may happen, but would it really have hurt to just congratulate the team on the result and admit that they were jaded about McLaren due to the teams under performance last year?  Even when they're shown to be wrong, they're still smug and entirely unlikable. 



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#4302 AustinF1

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:42

They're saying others 'under performed' thus elevating McLaren who they expect to fall back during the race.  Yes, this may happen, but would it really have hurt to just congratulate the team on the result and admit that they were jaded about McLaren due to the teams under performance last year?  Even when they're shown to be wrong, they're still smug and entirely unlikable. 

I'm not gonna watch that whole video (Cliff's Notes, anyone?), but I do really love how bewildered they appear at the result - as if winter testing is some very clear and easily readable process. 



#4303 MirNyet

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:44

I'm not gonna watch that whole video (Cliff's Notes, anyone?), but I do really love how bewildered they appear at the result - as if winter testing is some very clear and easily readable process. 

 

I'm ashamed to say I watched it - wanted to see if they would just say 'Ok, McLaren are much better than we've been painting them - we got that one wrong guys, sorry'... Never came.



#4304 Quickshifter

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:45

Pure comedy especially in the comments :rotfl:

 

:lol:  The comments section is comedy gold indeed.



#4305 AustinF1

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:54

I'm ashamed to say I watched it - wanted to see if they would just say 'Ok, McLaren are much better than we've been painting them - we got that one wrong guys, sorry'... Never came.

Yeah of course not. I think I saw them say something like "Great performance by McLaren", and that was it. WTF?



#4306 AustinF1

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:56

:lol:  The comments section is comedy gold indeed.

Yep...very first one I saw was comedy gold.

 

 

I bet it shocked you guys the most

 
Ferrari still sandbagging?


#4307 MirNyet

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:56

Yeah of course not. I think I saw them say something like "Great performance by McLaren", and that was it. WTF?

 

Yeah, that was Edd while he was reading the results off his notes, but that was then almost immediately countered with other teams under performing and saying (in a roundabout fashion) that Norris was sort of in the right place at the right time, and nailed it.  Edd did say (credit were it's due) that McLaren trackside has been on it, both now and last season, even when they had a poor car.


Edited by MirNyet, 16 March 2019 - 18:06.


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Posted 16 March 2019 - 18:21

Reading the comments from yesterday to today, I think I've got a touch of whiplash.

 

Great job by Norris on his first F1 qually.  That will surely give him a boost of confidence and relieve his nerves.  I really think that had Sainz made it through Q1 that he could have split the Haas, maybe even gotten ahead of both.  Unfortunately, I doubt anyone could have gotten the car any further up the field.  Fingers crossed for the first major upgrade.

 

If we say Sainz could have done a 22.0, then we're 1.5 off the lead, which is insurmountable but a significant improvement.  And less than a second off Vettel?  Call me crazy, but that's on the outside edge of possibility by the end of the season.  But it's Australia, which is always a bit mixed up, so no point in raising my expectations this early in the season.  For now, I'm just eager for the race to see if Norris can outpace Haas.

 

Still, with McLaren actually concentrating on development rather than fixing problems, maybe we can see the gap to the front slowly fall through the season.

 

I'm also eager to watch Sainz climb the field.  I think if he does well, it would go far to prove the ability of the car.   I'm really curious to see how well he does relative to Gasly.

 

As for the predictions, well we just have a single data point, but obviously the optimism in this thread wasn't undue.  I think my personal prediction for the season is on track (https://forums.autos...ting/?p=8665579 ), with Renault being the biggest surprise to me, and Haas maybe a bit quicker - though we'll see what their race pace is like and whether their drivers can keep out of trouble.


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#4309 Mc_Silver

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 18:26

Marko and other so called journalists got the answer they wanted this weekend. Very happy for that. :)

There is more to come from the team and drivers. McLaren recovery has just started!

#4310 MirNyet

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 18:34

Reading the comments from yesterday to today, I think I've got a touch of whiplash.

 

Great job by Norris on his first F1 qually.  That will surely give him a boost of confidence and relieve his nerves.  I really think that had Sainz made it through Q1 that he could have split the Haas, maybe even gotten ahead of both.  Unfortunately, I doubt anyone could have gotten the car any further up the field.  Fingers crossed for the first major upgrade.

 

If we say Sainz could have done a 22.0, then we're 1.5 off the lead, which is insurmountable but a significant improvement.  And less than a second off Vettel?  Call me crazy, but that's within the realm of possibility by the end of the season.  But it's Australia, which is always a bit mixed up - no point in raising my expectations too much.  For now, I'm just eager for the race to see if Norris can outpace Haas.

 

I'm also eager to watch Sainz climb the field.  I think if he does well, it would go far to prove the ability of the car.   I'm really curious to see how well he does relative to Gasly.

 

As for the predictions, well we just have a single data point, but obviously the optimism in this thread wasn't undue.  I think my personal prediction for the season is on track (https://forums.autos...ting/?p=8665579 ), with Renault being the biggest surprise to me, and Haas maybe a bit quicker - though we'll see what their race pace is like and whether their drivers can keep out of trouble.

 

On the upside - a certain someones cat is feeling a lot happier than he was 24 hours ago :D



#4311 DanardiF1

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 18:51

A little comedy for today :)

https://youtu.be/O_n20M4TBVA?t=272


Just needs the Curb Your Enthusiasm music...

#4312 FelixAdan

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 19:39

Encouraging start of the season. Nice lap by Chuck Norris.

 

I want to take something positive of Sainz's bad luck, let's see what the car and he can do right from the back.



#4313 Pete_f1

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 20:21

Norris has done more in one race than Vandorne did in two years!

...just about.

#4314 mclarensmps

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 20:47

Norris has done more in one race than Vandorne did in two years!

...just about.

Let's see what happens when Sainz has a decent qualifying as well. Always need a relative yardstick for things like this.

That said, I have high hopes of him :)



#4315 ARTGP

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:01

No Humble pie - Edd's already eaten all the pies...  Literally crying here. :D

 

lmao don't be rude  :rotfl:



#4316 superdelphinus

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:23

When did all this victim mentality creep into the mclaren fans?

#4317 mclarensmps

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:34

When did all this victim mentality creep into the mclaren fans?

 

Haven't been watching the sport that long eh?

We're just lucky Max Mosley isn't running things at the FIA still



#4318 alframsey

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:43

Great result for Lando today and I hope that translates into a decent season, shame about Sainz. I will hold fire though on declaring the McLaren a big step forward until we have had a few races.



#4319 MirNyet

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:43

lmao don't be rude  :rotfl:

 

Oh, there's worse comments on that video than that one.  It's brutal.



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#4320 Kimiraikkonen

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:52

Encouraging start of the season. Nice lap by Chuck Norris.

I want to take something positive of Sainz's bad luck, let's see what the car and he can do right from the back.


Lovely name for Lando (Chuck) Norris.

#4321 Kimiraikkonen

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:53

Enjoy mates this good moments!! Can't wait for race!!
#BelieveInMcLaren

#4322 balmybaldwin

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 21:59

He's actually not a bad pundit, but he got this completely wrong. Maybe he was towing the line?



And to be fair he was bob on about the Haas pace

#4323 Christophe77

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:10

Good news!

 

http://gptoday.com/f...gether_in_2019/



#4324 Risil

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:34

New thread this way.