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#1 ArnageWRC

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 15:47

About time a new thread was set up; I didn't include RX as they can have their own thread.

 

https://www.wrc.com/...29772-16--.html

 

 

Have noticed there is a WRC event on the weekend of 16th June. Really? The same weekend as Le Mans - I didn't think there were meant to be clashes with Le Mans? One can't help but think the WRC Promoters have no ideas about the wider motorsport world.



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#2 BRG

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Posted 05 January 2019 - 17:43

There aren't enough weekends for F1, WEC and WRC not to clash. So not a problem as long as Alonso isn't planning to go rallying for Toyota!

 

Meanwhile, they are having a Go in the Snow in Austria on the Janner Rallye this weekend.  Plenty of clips on YouTube - very entertaining.  A rally that ought to be in the ERC, I reckon.



#3 BRG

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 16:55

So not a problem as long as Alonso isn't planning to go rallying for Toyota!

Oh dear, i seem to have gone all Mystic Meg in light of the news that Alonso might attempt the Dakar.



#4 Myrvold

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 19:46

About time a new thread was set up; I didn't include RX as they can have their own thread.

 

Meh, just splits up it even more, would be better to have all the dirty stuff in one thread, to bring it up a tiny bit more often.
 

Meanwhile, they are having a Go in the Snow in Austria on the Janner Rallye this weekend.  Plenty of clips on YouTube - very entertaining.  A rally that ought to be in the ERC, I reckon.

This years edition had a poor entry list though. 53 cars, 9 R5's. Quite a bit of Gr.A cars though, I like that :)



#5 sopa

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 13:07

Yeah, considering manufacturers have pulled out of WRX, the series is going to be fairly low-profile this year, so a separate thread is not going to help them.



#6 Danyy

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 14:24

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M-sports Red Bull free 2019 livery

#7 Lennat

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 15:46

M-Sport's budget likely sucks, but I DO like that livery.  :smoking:


Edited by Lennat, 10 January 2019 - 15:49.


#8 f1paul

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 16:14

Yeah, considering manufacturers have pulled out of WRX, the series is going to be fairly low-profile this year, so a separate thread is not going to help them.

I'll still do my best to keep WRX going on this forum.   ;)



#9 Danyy

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:17

M-Sport's budget likely sucks, but I DO like that livery.  :smoking:


I wish Ford could fully commit, sponsors seem hard to come by even with winning two championships. Maybe Abu Dhabi can sponsor them.

Edited by Danyy, 11 January 2019 - 10:26.


#10 Lennat

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:24

If they had turned it into a proper factory effort they could have won like five straight titles with Ogier and made some real rally history. No one will remember some class wins at Le Mans or similar other stuff they are doing.



#11 Danyy

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:00

Car reveal in T-minus 15

#12 Danyy

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:03

HYPE
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#13 Myrvold

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:46

If they had turned it into a proper factory effort they could have won like five straight titles with Ogier and made some real rally history. No one will remember some class wins at Le Mans or similar other stuff they are doing.


Ford USA seems uninterested in rally, only supports Block, mainly for Gymkhana.
Ford Europe have just announced layoffs.

I guess thats why.

#14 Danyy

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 00:36

The livery the sound the speed EPIC


#15 vtpachyderm

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:43

I happen to find myself I Lyon at the moment. Is there any good sites or information on how I could perhaps go see a stage or testing? From what I could tell some of the stages are within a 2-3 hour drive from me?

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 11:17

HYPE
*Pics of 2019 cars*

Really like all four liveries for this season, especially the new Red Bull Citroen one. However, even that livery can't save the monstrosity that is the Citroen C3, one of the worst front ends I've seen on a car ever.



#17 Yamamoto

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 13:10

Marcus Gronholm is going to win the Rally Sweden.



#18 Danyy

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 14:45

I happen to find myself I Lyon at the moment. Is there any good sites or information on how I could perhaps go see a stage or testing? From what I could tell some of the stages are within a 2-3 hour drive from me?


If Toyota could have designed a better looking spoiler they would all be ok looking, nothing beats the VW polo from a few years ago for looks though.

#19 EightGear

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 21:49

I happen to find myself I Lyon at the moment. Is there any good sites or information on how I could perhaps go see a stage or testing? From what I could tell some of the stages are within a 2-3 hour drive from me?


You could try to ask at motorsportforums.com

There's a very large rallying community there, so much more chance of getting a useful response.

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#20 vtpachyderm

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 07:43

You could try to ask at motorsportforums.com

There's a very large rallying community there, so much more chance of getting a useful response.


Thanks for the tip. I’ll try that.

#21 Silberpfeil

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 10:51

I have to say, I really like the Citroën livery. Wasn‘t much of a fan of it when I first saw it, but it looks great in motion.

Doesn‘t beat the 2011 Petter Solberg livery as my personal (recent) favourite, though. The chrome elements looked great on the DS3.

#22 Danyy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:30


Ogier signing a VW lol and Loeb signs a Citroen


It’s service park time

#23 messy

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:46

Find it so hard to predict the Monte this year. 

 

Ogier usually finds a way to win whatever car he's driving though. 



#24 kikiturbo2

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:41


Ogier signing a VW lol and Loeb signs a Citroen


It’s service park time

Ogier signing a VW while driving a Subaru for Citroen, and Loeb signing a Citroen while driving a BMW for Hyundai.. LOOL.. :D



#25 ArnageWRC

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 20:41

Thanks for the tip. I’ll try that.

 

Do it. It's the only forum were there is lots of daily rally discussion - you'll be lucky if there are a dozen posts per WRC round on here.



#26 Myrvold

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 22:10

Do it. It's the only forum were there is lots of daily rally discussion - you'll be lucky if there are a dozen posts per WRC round on here.

Indeed. I would however, also advise to put certain users on the "ignore" list. It's pretty unmoderated and at times quite toxic there.



#27 Danyy

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:15

Shakedown begins in under 1 hour!!
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:24

Shakedown begins in under 1 hour!!
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I know it won't happen but that picture alone shows why WRC and Hyundai should try everything they can to persuade Loeb to do the whole season.



#29 sopa

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:32

Marcus Gronholm is going to win the Rally Sweden.

 

His son could be a top contender in the shrinked WRX series though.



#30 Danyy

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 09:10

Ogier lightning quick still unbeaten so far

#31 Danyy

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 09:18

Loebs turn to take on Ogier!

#32 Danyy

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 09:25

Ogier remains on top for the first round. Times don’t mean too much now but impressive speed and confidence out the gates.
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*after 2nd runs
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#33 OvDrone

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 09:52

As a huge Loeb fan, I want Ogier to stop winning titles.

 

Yo, Neuville! S T E P U P

 

 

 

Can't wait for this rally to start proper. One of my highlights of the year.



#34 Danyy

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:19

Re-live the first 2019 rally action!

Edited by Danyy, 24 January 2019 - 10:20.


#35 Danyy

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:05

3rd and final shakedown times
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#36 Lennat

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:14

Did Meeke make a mistake?



#37 OvDrone

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:26

Did Meeke make a mistake?

 

Meeke is a mistake.



#38 Myrvold

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 13:58

I know it won't happen but that picture alone shows why WRC and Hyundai should try everything they can to persuade Loeb to do the whole season.

I'm not sure what the reason is, but he has said it numerous times the last two years, he will not do WRC full-time again. Something along the lines of "The reason(s) why I stopped, are still there".



#39 Jambo

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 14:53

Meeke is a mistake.

Also fastest in the shakedown.



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#40 Danyy

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 14:54

As a huge Loeb fan, I want Ogier to stop winning titles.
 
Yo, Neuville! S T E P U P
 
 
 
Can't wait for this rally to start proper. One of my highlights of the year.


Super excited, 3 hours until we are GO!

#41 TheGoldenStoffel

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 15:28

I'm not sure what the reason is, but he has said it numerous times the last two years, he will not do WRC full-time again. Something along the lines of "The reason(s) why I stopped, are still there".

 

It's mostly because of the duration of a rally, including the recce a WRC event will take more than a week. That's why Loeb preferred the WRX as those were much shorter events. Both Loeb and Elena are in their mid 40s, with all the travel and time away from home they simply don't want to do a full season of this circus anymore.



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Posted 24 January 2019 - 15:36

Renewed my WRC+ subscription. Excited about Monte! Rooting for Tanak and Rovanpera to take the titles in WRC/WRC2.



#43 Myrvold

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 15:40

It's mostly because of the duration of a rally, including the recce a WRC event will take more than a week. That's why Loeb preferred the WRX as those were much shorter events. Both Loeb and Elena are in their mid 40s, with all the travel and time away from home they simply don't want to do a full season of this circus anymore.

That was my initial idea as well, but 12 WTCC events in 2015, plus testing pre and mid-season. Rally Monte-Carlo including testing, and a Porsche Supercup weekend, also with a bit of testing doesn't sound like something that gives a significant amount of extra time at home.
Though, WTCC, WRX, FIA GT and all the other things he have done since have considerably less media around. It might be a combination of both time away from home, and being tired of too much media. Well, I don't know, but it feels like there must be something more than just time away from home.
 

Renewed my WRC+ subscription. Excited about Monte! Rooting for Tanak and Rovanpera to take the titles in WRC/WRC2.


To be fair, anything other than Rovanperä taking the title in WRC2-Pro would be a disappointment. So far this is the lineup:
Skoda:
Kalle Rovenperä - full season
Eerik Piearinen - 1 event (probably at least Finland in addition)
Jan Kopecku - Undecided, may not be a whole season.

M-Sport:
Gus Greensmith - full season
Lukasz Pieniazek - full season(?)

Citroën(DG Sport):
Mads Østberg - full season
Yoann Bonato - full season(?)

Seeing how M-Sport doesn't come with the updated Fiesta until mid-2019, and Citroën are struggling with the C3 R5, just like they did with the DS3 R5 and Peugeot did with the 208 R5, it shouldn't be that huge of a challenge for Rovanperä to take the title.

 

In the "normal"/"old" WRC2 it's way more open, not at least because we have no idea who will do a full season. But seeing the early season rallies I would expect Veiby to struggle to mount a title challenge, regardless of what car he ends up driving. He was not able to beat Henning Solberg, nor Nikolay Gryazin in the first round in Norway.


Edited by Myrvold, 24 January 2019 - 15:51.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 16:48

That was my initial idea as well, but 12 WTCC events in 2015, plus testing pre and mid-season. Rally Monte-Carlo including testing, and a Porsche Supercup weekend, also with a bit of testing doesn't sound like something that gives a significant amount of extra time at home.
Though, WTCC, WRX, FIA GT and all the other things he have done since have considerably less media around. It might be a combination of both time away from home, and being tired of too much media. Well, I don't know, but it feels like there must be something more than just time away from home.
 

 

Maybe it isn't as much about Loeb but more about Daniel Elena? I mean he isn't the fittest bloke in the paddock...

 

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 17:17

Maybe it isn't as much about Loeb but more about Daniel Elena? I mean he isn't the fittest bloke in the paddock...

 

You don't really need much fitness to be a co-driver (I should know....   ;) ) as it is more of a mental exercise than a physical one.  And anyway he is a Frenchman of a certain age &  French law requires him to have a smoke whenever possible.



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Posted 24 January 2019 - 17:40

Tyres choices ahead of the first two stages, pure Monte!

 

#Tyre Info SS1 & SS2

Toyota/Citroën/Msport: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin Studded + 2 MICHELIN Pilot Sport Super Soft (SS6)

Neuville: 2 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin studded + 4SS6

Loeb/Mikkselen: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin studded + 1 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin #MichelinWRC #RallyeMonteCarlo



#47 Silberpfeil

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 17:50

I subscribed to WRC+ for the first time today. Can’t wait for the season to get underway properly.

Since Hayden Paddon is out, my full focus will be on a (hopefully) resurgent Meeke and his teammates. I’ve warmed to Ogier over the course of his DTM excursion last year, but I somewhat doubt Citroën’s ability to deliver consistently over a whole season. Tänak has to be the favourite for me, *if* Toyota can deliver the goods.

Also, I still can’t get over that Toyota line-up. If all three of their drivers are "on it," the speed they can produce is staggering.

Let’s see what the year holds!

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 19:01

Split times not working in the app. :rolleyes:



#49 anyeis

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 19:11

Tänak is unbeatable this year

#50 Myrvold

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 20:32

You don't really need much fitness to be a co-driver (I should know....   ;) ) as it is more of a mental exercise than a physical one.  And anyway he is a Frenchman of a certain age &  French law requires him to have a smoke whenever possible.

Yup!

 

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