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#51 Alburaq

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 14:37

I told you  :p

 

"Today, it is when we are on the track that we realize that there are problems 'engine + chassis' Here we will see these problems a few weeks before, in Viry-Châtillon, and so we will have a higher level of preparation to go on the first practice sessions

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#52 rootten

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 14:51

good news are flooding from Renault this winter, can't wait to see the car in action



#53 eREr

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 19:57

good news are flooding from Renault this winter, can't wait to see the car in action


Actually since RB announced the switch to Honda. :)

#54 gowebber

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 21:03

More on that article in English from Autosport

 

"Renault will have new test bench to aid development of F1 engine"

 

https://www.autospor...ine-development


Edited by gowebber, 28 January 2019 - 21:03.


#55 Shakengandulf

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 02:48

"Excitement rising"
My days always feel like there going too fast and want them to slow down.. now i want them to speed up.
So anxious.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 09:07

Yep hurry up Melbourne.

 

Dan likes what is happening too.

 

"It’s encouraging, obviously,” Ricciardo said.

 

“When I signed, I knew that there was work ahead but I know they’re putting a lot of effort into making things better and expanding a lot of departments and trying to make ’19 and ’20 stronger."

 

https://grandpx.news...ging-ricciardo/


Edited by gowebber, 29 January 2019 - 09:08.


#57 Laster

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 09:55

Always best to keep expectations in check until Melbourne. Every day there seems to be an article on Renault, some of it I think is the media regurgitating stuff already said, but still Renault are making a lot of noise and raising expectations on themselves. I just hope it doesn’t come back to bite them. Just making some significant inroads to the top three will be an achievement.

#58 Alburaq

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 10:03

"some of it I think is the media regurgitating stuff already said" 

And the titles many of the medias put on top of their articles make this worse  :stoned: 


Edited by Alburaq, 29 January 2019 - 10:05.


#59 Ivanhoe

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 10:14

Renault have kind of a history for always being positive for next season. Let’s hope they’ll translate their words into deeds for once.

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#60 Maxioos

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 12:52

I hope they join or come close to the top 3.

They for sure have the ambition.

It's risky to predict while new engine philosophy and complete new car.

Reading this week they changed whole car I found a very positive sign and gives for me some extra hope. I just didn't believe you can with a car that's lapped catch the cars that lap you in the next season. So, a whole new car could give that opportunity far more, too me at least.

I predicted Ricciardo, and while I thought they would have better 2018, I still have quite some believe in their (realistic) planning and ambition.

It's also waiting if losing RBR as benchmark will have influence. Now beating McLaren could make them look good, while if they still had RBR, it could still show some flaws in their car speed/performance.

If they don't join top 3 or reduce gap significant, they still should get 4th in WCC, but no guarantee than at all. Than the competition for that spot would/should be very intense. Haas, STR, Sauber, McLaren, RPfi,

#61 Ali623

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 13:25

Unless there’s a big fundamental issue with the car next season (McLaren or Williams style), all signs point to them making a significant step forward.

The engines will continue to converge together performance-wise, so it’s just a question of how big a step Renault have made in that regard. All we can go by is quotes leadin up to testing which have been immensely promising.

On the chassis/aero side of things, they’re re-doing the whole car it seems, and with the greater infrastructure and resources in place now there’s another opportunity here for a significant step forward.

And then of course their driver lineup is stronger than ever, give either of them a compatible car and they both have something to prove.

I’ll predict they’ll close up in the front three next season, but not quite enough to be a threat, but potentially the occasional podium opportunity or two over the season.

#62 gowebber

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 21:03

Really good article on Renaults F1 simulator at Enstone.

"Tech F1i: A visit to Renault at Enstone - The Simulator"

http://f1i.com/magaz...-simulator.html

Edited by gowebber, 30 January 2019 - 04:04.


#63 stillwater

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 16:02

mehhhh.

 

I am always suspicious of positive news stories in F1 when the cars have not even hit the track.

Far too many puff pieces around telling us how Renault are making all the right moves.

Stinks of a media strategy and nothing more.

 

Still not expecting them to match RBR

Hope I am wrong



#64 Neno

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 16:07

mehhhh.

 

I am always suspicious of positive news stories in F1 when the cars have not even hit the track.

Far too many puff pieces around telling us how Renault are making all the right moves.

Stinks of a media strategy and nothing more.

 

Still not expecting them to match RBR

Hope I am wrong

I am expecting them be far ahead of RBR. They are on that Gp2 engine 

 

My hate for RBR can't be measured.


Edited by Neno, 30 January 2019 - 16:09.


#65 A3

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 16:21

My hate for RBR can't be measured.


:lol:
You’re in for a fun year.

#66 Alburaq

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 18:48

mehhhh.

 

I am always suspicious of positive news stories in F1 when the cars have not even hit the track.

Far too many puff pieces around telling us how Renault are making all the right moves.

Stinks of a media strategy and nothing more.

 

Still not expecting them to match RBR

Hope I am wrong

Renault themselves are not expecting to match Red Bull. That's what they said to RIC straight away.

But obviously they will try.

And many good news about Renault come from neutral/objective/credible people.
The medias and their way to relay some infos/news tend to exaggerate things whether they're good or bad


Edited by Alburaq, 30 January 2019 - 18:52.


#67 Thatfastguy

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 19:02

Renault themselves are not expecting to match Red Bull. That's what they said to RIC straight away.

But obviously they will try.

And many good news about Renault come from neutral/objective/credible people.
The medias and their way to relay some infos/news tend to exaggerate things whether they're good or bad

 

Like who? Dopey the clown fronting the team? I'm curious 'caus I'm sure I missed that part  ;)



#68 Neno

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 19:03

:lol:
You’re in for a fun year.

I am usually for hell year. So fun year could be nice if all rumours come true. 



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Posted 30 January 2019 - 19:58

You mean the rumours that the Honda is actually quite powerful? :)

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 22:14

Honestly my fave Renault colours are from Alonsos title reign. That was a beeeeautiful car.


The best livery IMO was the testing livery they ran - not sure of year but it was around that time - with the darker blue and yellow Renault strip running along the side of the car. Looked amazing 👍

Edited by krapmeister, 30 January 2019 - 22:14.


#71 rootten

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 22:50

You mean the rumours that the Honda is actually quite powerful? :)

 

Is there anyone claiming that, besides Marko?



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Posted 30 January 2019 - 23:31

The best livery IMO was the testing livery they ran - not sure of year but it was around that time - with the darker blue and yellow Renault strip running along the side of the car. Looked amazing 👍


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Pre ING sponsorship I think.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 00:04

XPB_159071_HiRes.jpg

Pre ING sponsorship I think.


That's the one - what a gorgeous blue 👍

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 00:43

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Pre ING sponsorship I think.

 

I do not recall that test livery.  If the yellow was streamlined on the nose section that could be perfect with a bit of red - a lot like the old orange and grey McLaren test livery of days gone by..  I hope they create an awesome one like that this season.   Frankly, I'm tired of the yellow and black.. Jordan was good with it I'd like to see Renault return to this type of scheme.


Edited by Paco, 31 January 2019 - 00:45.


#75 gowebber

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 00:49

Like who? Dopey the clown fronting the team? I'm curious 'caus I'm sure I missed that part  ;)

 

Come on, theres been a fair few articles in this thread about the positive news with reference to credible sources. Is this a piss take?? Try Marcin Budkowski - Renault F1 executive director, Zak Brown - McLaren CEO, Ricciardo, Hulkenberg, Alain Prost, Nick Chester - Renault F1 Chassis technical director, Remi Taffin - Renault F1 engine technical director etc.


Edited by gowebber, 31 January 2019 - 01:16.


#76 Alburaq

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 05:25

Like who? Dopey the clown fronting the team? I'm curious 'caus I'm sure I missed that part  ;)

 

Credible people? Prost (relatively objective and honest despite the fact he's part of RF1T) 

Neutral sources? Nugnes

100% neutral? the Danish medias 

Neutral and objective and credible with insider infos? Marc Priestley https://forums.autos...rs18/?p=8622660

(in that chronological order - but Brown would be second and Abiteboul last- but Brown or Abiteboul arent objective and reliable enough)

All these people talked about big engine gains.

 

You can add Hulkenberg who usually talks frankly with medias like AMuS.


Edited by Alburaq, 31 January 2019 - 07:33.


#77 Alburaq

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 13:18

Found these pics in my hard disk yesterday
chauss10.jpg
renaul13.jpg
renaul14.jpg
webber10.jpg

Matte black looks cool with yellow and White
retrom10.jpg

Edited by Alburaq, 31 January 2019 - 14:38.


#78 eREr

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 16:25

The sound of the new Renault PU (in a Mclaren):



#79 A3

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 17:10

Sounds fast.

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#80 Thatfastguy

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 19:02

That's the one - what a gorgeous blue 👍

Looks like a much more awesome version of 2002 - 2006 era Renault livery. Gooood looking!

#81 Alburaq

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 08:27

First time Is saw the R27 I said to myself "wow what a bad ass looking car"

It was this pic. 

r27-1.jpg

Afterwards I realized the car and that livery were actually nothing special... but that livery was 10000 times better than those horrendous 2007-2009 ING liveries...

 

 

New sponsor layout on the livery? New sponsors? more white on the livery? white livery? see the showcar's reflection on the glasses
DyRbkI6WwAARjcp.jpg


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#82 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 08:33

That's a car painted half and half BAR style. I'd imagine it's some sort of promotional thing.



#83 Alburaq

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 08:38

No, they usually do that, paint half of the bodywork instead of painting all the parts.



#84 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 08:57

I've never seen it before. Looks more trouble than it's worth.



#85 Thatfastguy

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:03

Just had a look at the three Renault F1 cars since 2016 and I think they're all pretty bad looking. There's something about the yellow/black combi that just doesn't work. Also, the yellow isn't yellow enough or something. It's not quite yellow, it's not quite orange. The RS16 was ok'ish, bar the weird black stain running from the rear wing onto the bodywork. The RS18 was the worst looking in my opinion. 

 

Black and yellow can be pulled off though. Most jordan cars from 1998 onwards looked really awesome. 



#86 Alburaq

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:20

I've seen them do that before. It's easier to paint/wrap half of the car than the whole car. Most of the rear bodywork (like the sidepods and engine cover is devided in two parts anyways.  

You can find some pics here. https://twitter.com/JoeIrishF1/media

It's obviously not a real livery, just a mock-up to try and test different things.

Yes maybe that's not a mock up for the official livery and it's for a promotional event. There seem to be little kids drawings on it  :drunk:



#87 Clatter

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 16:36

Interesting question. Don't know if they were just working solely for Red Bull or that they worked as some sort of installation team that were working with both McLaren and Red Bull.

Would have thought the TR guys would have moved to mclaren.

#88 rootten

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 18:22

They are engineers not journalists, they'll find other assignments, don't woryy


Edited by rootten, 01 February 2019 - 18:22.


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Posted 04 February 2019 - 11:52

First look at Dan in his Renault kit.  :D

 

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https://www.gpfans.c...rdo-in-uniform/

 

Twitter finally updated too!

 

https://twitter.com/danielricciardo


Edited by gowebber, 04 February 2019 - 12:37.


#90 Neno

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 12:56

Suits him more than that disgusting RB uniform

 

(I hate RB so much)



#91 Laster

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 14:00

Looks like last years Renault race suit, the shirt looks new. If these pics are anything to go by, the cars livery will be yellow and black again, no white or anything else involved.



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Posted 04 February 2019 - 14:04

Would certainly be interesting to see Renault like they were (edit: performance wise) when competing in 1981/82/83. With a similar livery.

Edited by FordFiesta, 04 February 2019 - 14:07.


#93 Burai

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 14:35

Renault have kind of a history for always being positive for next season. Let’s hope they’ll translate their words into deeds for once.

 

???

 

2016: 9th

2017: 6th

2018: 4th

 

Each season has been a marked improvement over the previous year. Rome wasn't built in a day; just ask Mercedes.



#94 rootten

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 15:38

it was, ask Brawn GP  :lol:



#95 Ivanhoe

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 15:50

???

2016: 9th
2017: 6th
2018: 4th

Each season has been a marked improvement over the previous year. Rome wasn't built in a day; just ask Mercedes.

Should have been clearer, was referring to their (lack of) PU performance and reliability, their engine really has been an inferiour product for the last 4 years despite all of Cyril’s yearly promises to reliably close the gap to Merc and Ferrari. As a team they made good progress in the midfield, I’ll give you that. I have nothing against Renault, au contraire, was a big fan of them in the eighties. Hope they and Hulk and Dan will do well.


Edited by Ivanhoe, 04 February 2019 - 15:54.


#96 gowebber

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 20:56

Boss of Pirelli thinks Renault will be alot better this year.

 

"As for the expected pecking order, Isola admits that Mercedes and Ferrari are once again the favourites."

 

“Red Bull will also be close, because the regulation change is not so great,” he said. “And I would not be surprised to see Renault competitive, as they are investing a lot.”

 

https://grandpx.news...-in-2019-isola/


Edited by gowebber, 04 February 2019 - 21:01.


#97 Dratini

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 00:48

Should have been clearer, was referring to their (lack of) PU performance and reliability, their engine really has been an inferiour product for the last 4 years despite all of Cyril’s yearly promises to reliably close the gap to Merc and Ferrari. As a team they made good progress in the midfield, I’ll give you that. I have nothing against Renault, au contraire, was a big fan of them in the eighties. Hope they and Hulk and Dan will do well.

The Renault factory team's reliability in 2018 was just fine. It's out-and-out performance that they need to work on. I'll be satisfied just to see some kind of improvement on this end come Melbourne. If things are as they were last season then this year will be a testing one to watch. As it stands I can barely remember a single thing of the 2015 season. :lol:



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Posted 05 February 2019 - 02:29

Renno these days are like the DC of Constructors....

 

"This year is my year"

 

I'm only expecting a slight improvement on last year, probably not enough to affect the pecking order.



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Posted 05 February 2019 - 06:24

Mathew Carter on Missed Apex podcast said he was told by people in the know @ the final race in Abu Dhabi about what went down with Ricciardo & Red Bull before he chose renault.

 

It's a good listen.

 

He says that Red Bull have always paid their drivers very low retainers but filled them out with great bonus's but this changed with Max's new deal. Ricciardo asked for the same sort of deal (but not quite as much as what Max was on) and Red Bull said no, and left their original offer on the table believing he would swallow his pride and take it, they ended up offering him what he asked for at the last moment, but the whole ordeal was enough to show Dan he would not get the support Max would be getting going forward & he actually ended up accepting less money from Renault than Red Bulls final offer.



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#100 Ivanhoe

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 06:33

The Renault factory team's reliability in 2018 was just fine.


Well yeah, that’s because they didn’t use the spec 3 engine, because of its unreliability.