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Can they fight for the championship?

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#601 A3

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 21:01

Just a lap from today:https://streamable.com/09mu1

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#602 Thatfastguy

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 21:05

https://www.motorspo...d-bull/4339963/

Now he’s kicking renaults corpse!

One could say the engine is a jewel...

Agreed, the comparisons to the Renault days are a bit unnecessary. No need to sink to Abiteboul levels.

#603 Talisman

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 21:07

McLaren did the same last year.  Its not surprising if they had a bad relationship with the previous supplier that they'd focus on the differences with the new one.



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Posted 18 February 2019 - 22:26

Agreed, the comparisons to the Renault days are a bit unnecessary. No need to sink to Abiteboul levels.


Oh please...some of you are reading into things far too much. He’s impressed with Honda and letting the world know he feels the team is well positioned for the future with their new works deal. How disrespectful lmao

#605 Pits

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 22:49

Just a lap from today:https://streamable.com/09mu1

Looks pretty solid!

Nice lines and not a lot of movement in the corners



#606 DILLIGAF

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 01:20

Impressive first day of testing. I think Newey has produced another great chassis and if the Honda PU is reliable when running at full power Red Bull are in for a good year. 



#607 Otaku

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 03:03

I have to admit when i heard tjat thing of beauty comment I immediately thought of ronny boy.

So far so good though. Either Renault or red bull need to get it right this year, I don't know if I can take more of the same.

 

I'm more concerned about McLaren than Renault though, that Macca thing looks really well made (and fast :p)



#608 goldenboy

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 03:12

I'm more concerned about McLaren than Renault though, that Macca thing looks really well made (and fast :p)

Anyone really but I don't have much interest or confidence in McLaren drivers if I'm totally honest.

#609 enjoyingRBR

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 07:13

why does it look like they are still trying to reassure everybody their decision was good? This type of constant talk makes you think everything is not good


Think a little further please. You reallly think horner runs to the reporter and says: he man, this honda engine is so much better then renaults!! Or.... could it be.... that ALL reporters ask simillar comparable questions?

#610 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 07:30

Even if they're being asked constantly, the answers don't need to contain so much hype and thinly veiled digs at their former engine supplier.

Max seemed much more lowkey when asked how things were looking after day 1 of testing. Right way to be... and probably a far more accurate representation of things as they currently stand.

#611 TakataDomeNSX

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 07:39

A nice HD video of RB15 at Barcelona yesterday

 



#612 SenorSjon

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 08:24

I'm more concerned about McLaren than Renault though, that Macca thing looks really well made (and fast :p)

 

When you use softer tires, you get that. Only Kvyat and Sainz used the C4 tire.



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 08:42

When you use softer tires, you get that. Only Kvyat and Sainz used the C4 tire.

 

When you use softer tires, you get that. Only Kvyat and Sainz used the C4 tire.

We know the difference in laptimes between the tires?



#614 SenorSjon

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 08:59

It won't be slower than C3 or C2. ;)



#615 Pits

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 09:41

I would love RB to set a fast time today, just to confirm they have the speed.



#616 Thatfastguy

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 09:49

I would love RB to set a fast time today, just to confirm they have the speed.

Would be nice but I'd much rather have 'em top the mileage chart without running into any problems. I'm sure they'll go for hotlaps at some point. 



#617 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 10:51

I think today they just run their correlation/setup program and test different parts to understand the car better. Usually on days 3 and 4 is when they start doing performance runs late morning and race sims in the afternoon if memory serves.



#618 Danyy

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 11:53

The Honda’s gearshifts and engine note seem audibly much smoother than last year and I’m sure Gasly’s on a decent fuel load as he’s just pounding round and round with the Red Bull looking very consistent and balanced. That traditional strong front end in the medium/slow speed corners continues to be a characteristic and you can see how deep Gasly can go on the brakes into T1 and T4.
Karun Chandhok

It’s going exactly how I imagined but I’m still surprised just how smooth it’s been. Great job Red Bull Honda :)

Edited by Danyy, 19 February 2019 - 12:01.


#619 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:15

It’s going exactly how I imagined but I’m still surprised just how smooth it’s been. Great job Red Bull Honda :)

Very nice number of laps in the morning session. Let´s keep it up for the afternoon!

 

In general seem to be a lot less issues/more laps for all teams than last year, or is that just my perception...? 


Edited by Heyli, 19 February 2019 - 12:15.


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#620 JBJ

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:22

Very nice number of laps in the morning session. Let´s keep it up for the afternoon!

 

In general seem to be a lot less issues/more laps for all teams than last year, or is that just my perception...? 

no major engine changes



#621 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:23

no major engine changes

were there last year though? 



#622 Stephane

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:25

Some said Toro Rosso swapped engines every time they pitted, last year... :rotfl:



#623 Danyy

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:27

Very nice number of laps in the morning session. Let´s keep it up for the afternoon!
 
In general seem to be a lot less issues/more laps for all teams than last year, or is that just my perception...?


Yup with HAAS and Williams being the few exceptions everyone’s had a pretty good run. Now we wait with bated breath if it will stay like this when they turn things up lol

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:28

Very nice number of laps in the morning session. Let´s keep it up for the afternoon!

 

In general seem to be a lot less issues/more laps for all teams than last year, or is that just my perception...? 

 

But how long have the stints been? 

 

The stress on an engine is pretty different if you do a 65lap stint (with only tire change stops) compared to 5-8 laps every time and back to the pits... I'm not cheering yet. 



#625 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:32

But how long have the stints been? 

 

The stress on an engine is pretty different if you do a 65lap stint (with only tire change stops) compared to 5-8 laps every time and back to the pits... I'm not cheering yet. 

Oh, obviously **** can still hit the fan... :) (or is it van? in any case, fan is definitely more appropriate here ;)  )

 

But I remember (just from memory, didnt look it up) that it already looked quite different on the first few days last year. 


Edited by Heyli, 19 February 2019 - 12:33.


#626 Requiem84

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:35

Oh, obviously **** can still hit the fan... :) (or is it van? in any case, fan is definitely more appropriate here ;)  )

 

But I remember (just from memory, didnt look it up) that it already looked quite different on the first few days last year. 

 

2018:

 

Toro Rosso's fire-up was completed a day ahead of schedule. Their filming day ran without problems. Then in testing, Brendon Hartley gave Toro Rosso the honour of being the first team out of the pits, going on to complete an impressive 93 laps on the opening day. The next three days were smooth and they ended the first test - to some surprise - at the top of the mileage charts. It was a staggering turnaround from where both reliability-stricken parties had been 12 months ago.

 

https://www.formula1...Y2Y20ewekK.html



#627 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:49

Still, for there to be no heating issues or concerns so far with the Honda packaged tightly in Newey's customary straight jacket coke bottle is a promising sign. McLaren were running with burn marks and hand sawn cooling gaps in their body work this time last year after they had switched engines if my memory doesn't play tricks on me.



#628 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:53

That´s just 1 team though, and still less than RB did now on day 1;)



#629 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:54

Just looked it up:

18:21 26 Feb 2018
Most laps

1 Ricciardo 105

2 Hartley 93

3 Raikkonen 80

4 Hulkenberg 73

5 Ericsson 63

6 Bottas 58

7 Grosjean 55

8 Alonso 51

9 Stroll 46

10 Sirotkin 28

11 Sainz 26

12 Hamilton 25

13 Mazepin 22

 

Seems significant less. Weather might have played a role though... 

 

Williams had a lot more last year though. 


Edited by Heyli, 19 February 2019 - 12:56.


#630 SCUDmissile

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 17:26

Think a little further please. You reallly think horner runs to the reporter and says: he man, this honda engine is so much better then renaults!! Or.... could it be.... that ALL reporters ask simillar comparable questions?


Yes??? I mean I can totally imagine him and Marko doing that.

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:07

It won't be slower than C3 or C2.  ;)

Well that's where you're wrong. Pirelli said that last winter the teams could not get the HS and US working and at the Spanish GP a bunch of drivers qualified quicker on the S than the SS. All to do with the track temps...



#632 Ragnar668

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:24

Interview with Max (dutch)
- a lot more power

- drive ability is good, nothing to complain

- no prediction for 2019

- no difference when following other cars compared to last year



#633 rootten

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:30

Why no predictions? During the winter I heard fighting for wins and championship



#634 goldenboy

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:37

Safety first for most teams so far it seems, but it really doesn't look like there's going to be any disasters which is nice.

#635 Heyli

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:37

Why no predictions? During the winter I heard fighting for wins and championship

Most likely, because he´s not confident enough at this stage based on the info they have to make one...

 

Sofar Max has been quite honest in interviews/thoughts/expectations, so I dont see any reason to doubt him here. I do think we´ll know more (or actually, they´ll know more and hopefully share it with the fans) by the end of next week.



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:43

Safety first for most teams so far it seems, but it really doesn't look like there's going to be any disasters which is nice.

 

Williams' start to pre-season testing is looking pretty disastrous from where I'm sitting  ;)



#637 goldenboy

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:45

Williams' start to pre-season testing is looking pretty disastrous from where I'm sitting  ;)

True, but you know what I mean. There's no more McLaren or red bull Renault waiting days anymore.

Edited by goldenboy, 19 February 2019 - 18:46.


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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:47

Interview with Max (dutch)
- a lot more power

- drive ability is good, nothing to complain

- no prediction for 2019

- no difference when following other cars compared to last year

 

 

Would have thought that with a lot more power and drive ability being good there would be a difference when following other cars compared to last year, unless everyone else have gotten the same powergain.



#639 Tiakumosan

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 18:50

Guess he is talking about the regulation changes for this year.



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#640 Ivanhoe

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 19:00

Why no predictions? During the winter I heard fighting for wins and championship

And there are people complaining about ‘RB groupies’ trolling in the RS19 thread. Talking about this nonsense again? We already dealt with that a few weeks ago. Bye.

Max is talking about wins and eventually fighting for the championship: https://www.motorspo...sitive/4332897/ Expectations running high

If that’s your summary of that piece, I advice you to take a course comprehensive reading. You have some clear blind spots.I’d say he’s conservatively hopeful and realistic about Red Bull’s chances next year

But of course you will never know what the other teams are doing. We'll have to wait and see. It is exciting, although that will really come when I sit in the car."Prior to that it is hard to know what to expect.""I don't think we will match Ferrari and Mercedes straight away in terms of power, but Honda is giving everything to get there as quickly as possible.“"We will try to win as many races as possible," said Verstappen. "And if that is the case we can also go for the world championship."It is hard to judge, but I hope it will be positive. At the moment we don't know how good the car and engine are, and how good the competition is."I will always try to get the best out of myself and hopefully that is enough."


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#641 Thatfastguy

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 19:36

Why no predictions? During the winter I heard fighting for wins and championship

What are you trying? Max never said that. Keep that fake news nonsense out of here please.

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 21:05

https://youtu.be/iEPt9J8bOSg?t=441

 

Marc Priestley talking about how Red Bull have apparently been having some issues with engine vibrations during the first day of testing, not good...



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 21:11

https://youtu.be/iEPt9J8bOSg?t=441

 

Marc Priestley talking about how Red Bull have apparently been having some issues with engine vibrations during the first day of testing, not good...

And I just thought about best engine integration ever. You could have seen candies dropping out Horner's mouth, just salivating about Honda. This Marc must be some kind of liar. 


Edited by Neno, 19 February 2019 - 21:11.


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Posted 19 February 2019 - 21:18

And I just thought about best engine integration ever. You could have seen candies dropping out Horner's mouth, just salivating about Honda. This Marc must be some kind of liar.


The Honda is the best engine they have ever had.

Edited by CL16, 19 February 2019 - 21:18.


#645 Pits

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 21:23

I hope it's an easy fix or fake news.... :|



#646 Neno

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 21:24

The Honda is the best engine they have ever had.

I damn hope so, they were dominating F1 with GP3 engine all those years. Just imagine if they had Honda.  :smoking:  



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 21:26

Would have thought that with a lot more power and drive ability being good there would be a difference when following other cars compared to last year, unless everyone else have gotten the same powergain.

 


Power and drivability doesn't make the dirty air go away.

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 22:05

Oh, obviously **** can still hit the fan... :) (or is it van? in any case, fan is definitely more appropriate here ;)  )

 

But I remember (just from memory, didnt look it up) that it already looked quite different on the first few days last year. 

 It's definitely "fan" Heyli  :)



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Posted 19 February 2019 - 22:50

A vibrating Jewel? sounds naughty.


Edited by lbennie, 19 February 2019 - 23:17.


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Posted 19 February 2019 - 23:20

And people complain about a few Max or Red Bull fans posting unoffensive remarks in the Renault thread on here. All it took was a vague rumour for a few Dan/Renault fans to come in here and make fun of Red Bull Honda. At the very least let’s agree both parties are as good/bad as each other and not have a go at others like I’ve seen a few people do in the Renault thead.

On topic, vibrations from the Honda power unit would be bad news and most unwelcome, but perhaps not entirely unexpected at this stage. Having said that, I have my doubts about this report. Max was quoted today as having no complaints about the Honda power unit performance and drivabaility so far. He’s not exactly the type to stay schtum when his fillings are dropping out of his teeth after a few laps. Let’s wait and see what transpires in the next few days about this, but when Toro Rosso had vibration issues earlier this year (Russia was it?) they quickly reverted to an older spec. I doubt Red Bull would have managed well over 100 laps on average, more if it wasn’t for Gasly’s spin this afternoon, if there were massive vibration issues but we will see.