Jump to content


Photo
* * * * * 1 votes

Helmets 2019


  • Please log in to reply
340 replies to this topic

#51 thegamer23

thegamer23
  • Member

  • 6,820 posts
  • Joined: November 13

Posted 03 February 2019 - 15:51

http://www.gptoday.c..._design_leaked/

Apparently Verstappen has changed his design radically. It’s mostly white and a bit of red now intstead of dark blue.

 

White/Red, Red Bull Honda incoming?  :love:


Edited by thegamer23, 03 February 2019 - 15:52.


Advertisement

#52 taz

taz
  • Member

  • 329 posts
  • Joined: January 10

Posted 03 February 2019 - 20:10

Grosjean's 2019 helmet

 

G8bjKLI.jpg



#53 pacificquay

pacificquay
  • Member

  • 2,753 posts
  • Joined: March 07

Posted 03 February 2019 - 20:53

Grosjean's 2019 helmet
 
G8bjKLI.jpg


Another mess

#54 maximilian

maximilian
  • Member

  • 3,514 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 03 February 2019 - 20:55

Boooooooo



#55 ConsiderAndGo

ConsiderAndGo
  • Member

  • 5,222 posts
  • Joined: May 09

Posted 03 February 2019 - 20:56

My god that is awful.

Why oh WHY can’t anyone make a decent lid these days!

#56 thegamer23

thegamer23
  • Member

  • 6,820 posts
  • Joined: November 13

Posted 03 February 2019 - 21:01

Quite love the new Pascal Wehrlein's Lid in FE.

 

pascal-wehrlein-mahindra-racin-1.jpg

 

 

Mortara's new helmet

 

gb.png

 

 

 

Alexander Sims

 

imsa-daytona-january-testing-2017-alexan

 

 

 

Jean Eric Vergne also changed his lid to a Blue, Red & Gold stripe design . 

 

Vergne-2-548x300.jpg


Edited by thegamer23, 03 February 2019 - 21:05.


#57 SonGoku

SonGoku
  • Member

  • 1,699 posts
  • Joined: July 17

Posted 03 February 2019 - 21:18

Never understand the helmets with all the colours of the rainbow in it, just pick a theme and stick with it.



#58 alonstar

alonstar
  • New Member

  • 19 posts
  • Joined: November 18

Posted 03 February 2019 - 22:07

Sims helmet is a complete mess  :eek:  and why the reference to senna ? Is he related like Bruno Senna ?



#59 Paco

Paco
  • Member

  • 2,192 posts
  • Joined: June 02

Posted 03 February 2019 - 22:31

Agreed on how most look like crap these days.  I hate that drivers keep messing with them to match cars etc.  I like how Damon Hill was so iconic.  LIke it or not, you knew who was in the car very easily irregardless of what team he drove for.



Advertisement

#60 Piif

Piif
  • Member

  • 1,133 posts
  • Joined: September 02

Posted 03 February 2019 - 22:42

All of the pics so far look like ****. Verstappen might be onto something with that white thing, at least it would stand out against all those ridicilous "super-speed, fast-like-lightining" style paint schemes with spikes and arrows. Those are absurdly horrible.


Edited by Piif, 03 February 2019 - 22:43.


#61 CL16

CL16
  • Member

  • 632 posts
  • Joined: June 18

Posted 03 February 2019 - 23:29

All of the pics so far look like ****. Verstappen might be onto something with that white thing, at least it would stand out against all those ridicilous "super-speed, fast-like-lightining" style paint schemes with spikes and arrows. Those are absurdly horrible.


Just wants to join the elite in white (Hamilton and Vettel)

#62 johnmhinds

johnmhinds
  • Member

  • 7,257 posts
  • Joined: July 09

Posted 04 February 2019 - 00:22

Another angle of Grosjean's helmet:

nwr2el6lyee21.jpg



#63 VladimirBrown

VladimirBrown
  • Member

  • 171 posts
  • Joined: January 15

Posted 04 February 2019 - 01:04

Grosjean's 2019 helmet

G8bjKLI.jpg


Is it me or does it look like his helmet design is literally an arrow going in the opposite direction he should be driving?

#64 potmotr

potmotr
  • Member

  • 10,613 posts
  • Joined: January 08

Posted 04 February 2019 - 02:00

Another angle of Grosjean's helmet:

nwr2el6lyee21.jpg

 

Awful.



#65 potmotr

potmotr
  • Member

  • 10,613 posts
  • Joined: January 08

Posted 04 February 2019 - 02:01

Is it me or does it look like his helmet design is literally an arrow going in the opposite direction he should be driving?

 

Perhaps it's the Grosjean helmet from the first half of 2018!



#66 RECKLESS

RECKLESS
  • Member

  • 2,632 posts
  • Joined: April 16

Posted 04 February 2019 - 05:01

Another angle of Grosjean's helmet:
nwr2el6lyee21.jpg

Somebody got paid for this design. Jeez!

#67 Ivanhoe

Ivanhoe
  • Member

  • 5,443 posts
  • Joined: November 15

Posted 04 February 2019 - 07:32

More pics of Max’ 2019 helmet
v2_large_134a6bd660079a5a9e40eba8671ccde

Edited by Ivanhoe, 04 February 2019 - 07:33.


#68 Beri

Beri
  • Member

  • 858 posts
  • Joined: January 14

Posted 04 February 2019 - 08:35

Quite a drastic change by Max. Pretty in my eyes tho.



#69 thegamer23

thegamer23
  • Member

  • 6,820 posts
  • Joined: November 13

Posted 04 February 2019 - 08:45

Looks like some of the Vettel's Suzuka special helmets in his Red Bull days!

Will look great if there's some red around the cockpit 😎

#70 MrMonaco

MrMonaco
  • Member

  • 462 posts
  • Joined: May 10

Posted 04 February 2019 - 09:38

I think I'm gonna be on the same page with most of you here when I say that I prefered helmet designs of 80's and 90's. I like helmets that have simple, almost minimalistic design, a clear and recognizable theme that stands out from the rest. Having that in mind I don't really understand reactions to Kubica's old/new design (not the one with the eagle but the original one). Despite some added lines and details it's still one of the simplest designs on the grid.

 

There are two other issues with todays helmets. Look at the one from Max. Even the simplest concept is ruined at the start with the amount of space taken by ads. Even a plain white helmet without ANY design would be filled with those logos making it a mess.

 

The other problem is exposition. Up until mid 90's we could see almost all of driver's helmet so he could have some "artistic" freeedom to make a design that would work as a whole because it was certain it would be fully visible. Let's take my avatar:

 

Elio-de-Angelis-1986.jpg

 

That design would never work today simply because it would be invisible. In modern cars, especially since halo was introduced, the only part which is fully visible is the top (from onboards) and without the aid of social media it would be difficult to see whole paint schemes at all. I'm not defending modern desings as I still don't like most of them but I understand the todays challenges. It's difficult to be visible at all.


Edited by MrMonaco, 04 February 2019 - 09:39.


#71 VladimirBrown

VladimirBrown
  • Member

  • 171 posts
  • Joined: January 15

Posted 04 February 2019 - 09:42

Sad times when just changing the background from blue to white is considered a groundbreaking, radical and bold design change. What Red Bull does to its drivers should be deemed illegal.


Edited by VladimirBrown, 04 February 2019 - 11:41.


#72 JRodrigues

JRodrigues
  • Member

  • 824 posts
  • Joined: September 11

Posted 04 February 2019 - 09:46

I think I'm gonna be on the same page with most of you here when I say that I prefered helmet designs of 80's and 90's. I like helmets that have simple, almost minimalistic design, a clear and recognizable theme that stands out from the rest. Having that in mind I don't really understand reactions to Kubica's old/new design (not the one with the eagle but the original one). Despite some added lines and details it's still one of the simplest designs on the grid.

 

There are two other issues with todays helmets. Look at the one from Max. Even the simplest concept is ruined at the start with the amount of space taken by ads. Even a plain white helmet without ANY design would be filled with those logos making it a mess.

 

The other problem is exposition. Up until mid 90's we could see almost all of driver's helmet so he could have some "artistic" freeedom to make a design that would work as a whole because it was certain it would be fully visible. Let's take my avatar:

 

 

That design would never work today simply because it would be invisible. In modern cars, especially since halo was introduced, the only part which is fully visible is the top (from onboards) and without the aid of social media it would be difficult to see whole paint schemes at all. I'm not defending modern desings as I still don't like most of them but I understand the todays challenges. It's difficult to be visible at all.

 

Vergne's design of Alesi's helmet (I know that's not Alesi in your pic, but you know what I mean)

 

verg-helmet-monaco-2012-2.jpg

 

Even if it's better than most of current designs... Stilll a little meh.


Edited by JRodrigues, 04 February 2019 - 09:46.


#73 RacingGreen

RacingGreen
  • Member

  • 2,191 posts
  • Joined: March 17

Posted 04 February 2019 - 09:51

Grosjean's 2019 helmet

 

 

 

The man has no style at all.



#74 MrMonaco

MrMonaco
  • Member

  • 462 posts
  • Joined: May 10

Posted 04 February 2019 - 09:59

The man has no style at all.

That's probably the harshest thing you could say to a Frenchman.

 

Vergne's design of Alesi's helmet (I know that's not Alesi in your pic, but you know what I mean)

 

Even if it's better than most of current designs... Stilll a little meh.

Notice how much the helmets itself (its shape) changed from the days of de Angelis or Alesi. It's hard to make a "flat" design on such irregular shape. JEV's design is ruined by, surprise surprise, a certain logo. You could say there's a stron oversaturation of that logo.


Edited by MrMonaco, 04 February 2019 - 10:00.


#75 RacingGreen

RacingGreen
  • Member

  • 2,191 posts
  • Joined: March 17

Posted 04 February 2019 - 10:00

Sims helmet is a complete mess  :eek:  and why the reference to senna ? Is he related like Bruno Senna ?

 

I actually don't mind Sims helmet - it has bold colours that are in defined bands around the helmet and not spray paint areas that fade from one colour / tint into the next like some graffiti artists hot rod paint nightmare like for example Grosjean's.



#76 pacificquay

pacificquay
  • Member

  • 2,753 posts
  • Joined: March 07

Posted 04 February 2019 - 10:26

I disagree with the point about lack of visibility needing different designs.

 

The de Angelis design would be just as strong today as it was in the 80s



#77 Beri

Beri
  • Member

  • 858 posts
  • Joined: January 14

Posted 04 February 2019 - 11:01

I disagree with the point about lack of visibility needing different designs.
 
The de Angelis design would be just as strong today as it was in the 80s


It wont. The side wouldnt be visible due to the high cockpit sides and the Halo. So you will only see a white helmet from the front.

#78 JRodrigues

JRodrigues
  • Member

  • 824 posts
  • Joined: September 11

Posted 04 February 2019 - 11:38

Vergne also had a take on Cevert's helmet. It was even worst than the Alesi one (thank you Red Bull!)

 

e5d1989b-4a5f-41de-94d5-4ae71f6df88d_500

 

 

 

But from the cockpit they still are a little recognizable:

 

vergne-monaco.jpg

Jean.jpg

kimi.jpg



#79 midgrid

midgrid
  • Member

  • 7,242 posts
  • Joined: April 09

Posted 04 February 2019 - 12:20

Giuliano Alesi is currently racing with the De Angelis-Jean Alesi helmet design as well.



Advertisement

#80 thegamer23

thegamer23
  • Member

  • 6,820 posts
  • Joined: November 13

Posted 04 February 2019 - 12:38

Giuliano Alesi is currently racing with the De Angelis-Jean Alesi helmet design as well.

 

 

gp3-abu-dhabi-november-testing-2016-giul


Edited by thegamer23, 04 February 2019 - 12:38.


#81 pacificquay

pacificquay
  • Member

  • 2,753 posts
  • Joined: March 07

Posted 04 February 2019 - 12:48

Yes, much better than the utter detritus so many wear

#82 Taxi

Taxi
  • Member

  • 3,684 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 04 February 2019 - 15:43

Max Verspappen's it quite cool actualy. Red Bull giant logo ruins helmet designs but hey, hallo does that too. 



#83 VladimirBrown

VladimirBrown
  • Member

  • 171 posts
  • Joined: January 15

Posted 04 February 2019 - 15:49

Shame Vergne isn't racing in F1 anymore. It was always instructive to see how modern day branding can completely ruin classic designs. I wonder what Senna's, Mansell's or Prost's helmets would look like if they were enslaved by Red Bull...



#84 Spillage

Spillage
  • Member

  • 5,236 posts
  • Joined: May 09

Posted 04 February 2019 - 15:52

Vergne's design of Alesi's helmet (I know that's not Alesi in your pic, but you know what I mean)

 

Even if it's better than most of current designs... Stilll a little meh.

It's ruined by the Red Bull logos that make it almost impossible for a design to look good. It's a shame, because their drivers have some decent ideas - I like Vettel's Ferrari helmet and I think Gasly's would look good without the logos too.



#85 FordFiesta

FordFiesta
  • Member

  • 224 posts
  • Joined: January 19

Posted 04 February 2019 - 16:08

My god that is awful.

Why oh WHY can’t anyone make a decent lid these days!

Yeah, infinitely overblown. Way too much colours.

Worst recent helmet designs of my favourite (currently competing) drivers: Hamilton's.

Best helmet designs of drivers who were/are not on my personal favourite drivers' list: Piquet's and Vettel's (his Ferrari ones).

Edited by FordFiesta, 04 February 2019 - 16:09.


#86 Gintonious

Gintonious
  • Member

  • 1,551 posts
  • Joined: February 11

Posted 04 February 2019 - 16:28

Grosjean never fails to impress with another disaster of a lid.



#87 Burai

Burai
  • Member

  • 1,402 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 04 February 2019 - 16:43

Max Verspappen's it quite cool actualy. Red Bull giant logo ruins helmet designs but hey, hallo does that too. 

 

That's not necessarily a feature of the Halo though. The drivers helmets are far more visible in Formula E, even though they run the same FIA mandated Halo and side impact protection.

 

I suspect driver seating position and TV camera position have a fairly big impact.



#88 potmotr

potmotr
  • Member

  • 10,613 posts
  • Joined: January 08

Posted 05 February 2019 - 01:14

Weird Max's helmet isn't displaying a bit more Dutch orange. 



#89 CoolBreeze

CoolBreeze
  • Member

  • 1,532 posts
  • Joined: January 12

Posted 05 February 2019 - 05:54

The man has no style at all.

 

It's a mess just like his driving and whining.



#90 Burai

Burai
  • Member

  • 1,402 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 05 February 2019 - 09:25

Weird Max's helmet isn't displaying a bit more Dutch orange. 

 

IIRC Red Bull affiliated drivers can only run Red Bull's corporate colours; red, blue, yellow and silver/white with exceptions allowed for the FIA-allowed one-off change.

 

Mark Webber was quite vocal about having to change his design that he'd for 15 years because Red Bull didn't want him to have any green in it.

 

That said, Hartley ran some green and a lot of black in his design last year, so perhaps they've relaxed things.



#91 CL16

CL16
  • Member

  • 632 posts
  • Joined: June 18

Posted 05 February 2019 - 09:30

I think Red Bull relaxed things when Vettel had about 50+ different designs whilst driving for them.

#92 Peat

Peat
  • Member

  • 3,600 posts
  • Joined: November 09

Posted 05 February 2019 - 10:03

I actually don't mind Sims helmet - it has bold colours that are in defined bands around the helmet and not spray paint areas that fade from one colour / tint into the next like some graffiti artists hot rod paint nightmare like for example Grosjean's.

 

I don't either. He's stuck with it from the beginning and is easily identifiable out on track. 

I've never really paid much attention to the details therein. It looks like a fusion of Senna and Network Rail on a dose of acid. 



#93 VladimirBrown

VladimirBrown
  • Member

  • 171 posts
  • Joined: January 15

Posted 05 February 2019 - 10:09

I think Red Bull relaxed things when Vettel had about 50+ different designs whilst driving for them.

 

Had never though about this from this angle, but all these helmet designs could have been the ultimate practical joke on Red Bull.

 

The focus was solely on what Vettel was going to come up with next, and the Red Bull logo simply became part of the scenery. Actually brilliant if you think about it.



#94 potmotr

potmotr
  • Member

  • 10,613 posts
  • Joined: January 08

Posted 05 February 2019 - 10:12

IIRC Red Bull affiliated drivers can only run Red Bull's corporate colours; red, blue, yellow and silver/white with exceptions allowed for the FIA-allowed one-off change.

 

Mark Webber was quite vocal about having to change his design that he'd for 15 years because Red Bull didn't want him to have any green in it.

 

That said, Hartley ran some green and a lot of black in his design last year, so perhaps they've relaxed things.

 

Interesting. 

You'd imagine Max's bargaining power within Red Bull would stream roll that kind of restriction.  



#95 Anuity

Anuity
  • Member

  • 110 posts
  • Joined: September 17

Posted 05 February 2019 - 11:06

gp3-abu-dhabi-november-testing-2016-giul

 

 

Alesi has a beautiful design. One of my all time favourties. Fisichella also used to have nice helmet.


Edited by Anuity, 05 February 2019 - 11:07.


#96 potmotr

potmotr
  • Member

  • 10,613 posts
  • Joined: January 08

Posted 05 February 2019 - 11:15

Alesi has a beautiful design. One of my all time favourties. Fisichella also used to have nice helmet.

 

It's the pearl white that makes it I reckon!

 

Could to see Guiliano Alesi being so faithful to his old man's design. 



#97 GiorgioF1

GiorgioF1
  • Member

  • 561 posts
  • Joined: December 17

Posted 05 February 2019 - 11:21

Grosjean's 2019 helmet

 

G8bjKLI.jpg

 

Hideous. His last year's one was not awful and his Lotus/Renault helmets were actually pretty nice. But this thing is an abomination lol..



#98 potmotr

potmotr
  • Member

  • 10,613 posts
  • Joined: January 08

Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:22

Verstappen explaining his new-look helmet:

https://twitter.com/...8008387587?s=09

#99 phrank

phrank
  • Member

  • 995 posts
  • Joined: May 01

Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:45

How are we to tell Vettel and Verstappen apart when they both have white helmets?



Advertisement

#100 P123

P123
  • Member

  • 14,934 posts
  • Joined: February 09

Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:45

Once the Red Bull logos are splashed all over it there isn't much real estate left for an individual design. Max would have been better off with what he had. Or the orange one.