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#101 potmotr

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:48

How are we to tell Vettel and Verstappen apart when they both have white helmets?

 

One drives a red car the other a blue car.

 

White helmet in red car = Vettel

White helmet in blue car = Verstappen

 

Simples



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#102 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:54

How are we to tell Vettel and Verstappen apart when they both have white helmets?

 

Not sure if serious....



#103 Thatfastguy

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 12:58

Once the Red Bull logos are splashed all over it there isn't much real estate left for an individual design. Max would have been better off with what he had. Or the orange one.

 

That's why I like the new design. The white kind of neutralises the mess made by all the mandatory RB stuff. 

But that's basically the only and best thing you can do as an RB affiliate. It's sad there's so little room for personalisation. 



#104 VladimirBrown

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 13:27

How are we to tell Vettel and Verstappen apart when they both have white helmets?

 

Same thought crossed my mind, but then I realized that if you look really carefully, at the back of Verstappen's helmet there's a small blue triangle with his logo on it.

 


 



#105 sgtkate

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 13:29

Same thought crossed my mind, but then I realized that if you look really carefully, at the back of Verstappen's helmet there's a small blue triangle with his logo on it.

 

 

Won't the halo block this? #joke



#106 VladimirBrown

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 13:40

Won't the halo block this? #joke

 

You realize that if Red Bull sees your comment they'll probably consider splashing a massive RED BULL logo on the halo just in case, right?



#107 Danyy

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 13:59

More pics of Max’ 2019 helmetv2_large_134a6bd660079a5a9e40eba8671ccde

That’s not his actual helmet but not a bad doppelgänger.
Here’s his reveal
https://www.instagra...d=1f17mj67ufjwp

Edited by Danyy, 05 February 2019 - 14:00.


#108 Beri

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 14:02

Once the Red Bull logos are splashed all over it there isn't much real estate left for an individual design. Max would have been better off with what he had. Or the orange one.


The yellow Austria one was quite nice. The 2016 orange edition in Belgium as well. As for his usual designs, and this one, it's a tad boring.

#109 Anuity

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 14:14

Looks like a total mess to me. I can't even pick out one single elemet in that "design", well apart from the logo. And I have spent sometime looking at it.  The only nice thing about it are the colours.



#110 CoolBreeze

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 14:20

Not sure if serious....

 

well his call sign is prank...



#111 Beri

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 14:21

well his call sign is prank...


Phrank is pronounced as Frank I suppose

#112 ernestomodena

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 14:48

Looks like a total mess to me. I can't even pick out one single elemet in that "design", well apart from the logo. And I have spent sometime looking at it.  The only nice thing about it are the colours.

 

Really. Not even the lion.



#113 thegamer23

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 15:01

better than his standard Red Bull helmet, worse than his orange designs (spa 2017 & 2018)

Edited by thegamer23, 05 February 2019 - 15:01.


#114 Shuffle

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 15:10

better than his standard Red Bull helmet, worse than his orange designs (spa 2017 & 2018)

I loved his 2018 Spa helmet, simplistic and it stood out from a mile away.

This new one is a mess. It's only Vettel and Gasly who have decent helmet designs on the grid at the moment IMO.



#115 A3

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 15:11

That’s not his actual helmet but not a bad doppelgänger.
Here’s his reveal
https://www.instagra...d=1f17mj67ufjwp

 

The lighting seems off in that video, tried to compensate for that:

 

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#116 Alburaq

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 15:28

Remove this sensless ugly sh** and you'll get a decent helmet 

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Edited by Alburaq, 05 February 2019 - 15:30.


#117 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 15:39

The lighting seems off in that video, tried to compensate for that:

 

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Absolutely terrible.  :drunk:



#118 A3

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 15:43

Remove this sensless ugly sh** and you'll get a decent helmet 
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Yes, the green doesn't really fit in.

#119 Requiem84

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 16:21

My perspective on helmets in F1:

 

Is the helmet easily recognisable on tv-shots compared to his team mate so that we can see which driver it is? If yes - perfect. 

 

Nice, ugly, pretty, elegant.. I couldn't care the least. 



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#120 Gintonious

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 16:22

These god dam go-faster stripes, they absolutely RUIN modern helmet design.



#121 BalanceUT

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 16:43

I guess I have to be the guy to say I like Grossjean's helmet? In all seriousness, my first reaction on seeing it was 'nice!' 

 

Reasons: It's not 'fiddly' with a bunch of competing lines and colors. There are three theme colors to it. Haas Red, Blue and Yellow. The blue gradates from a dark to light version of the same shade, so no problem. The Red and yellow gradate to each other through orange, but because it's a gradation, it's not jarring (Imagine it as three distinct color stripes... EEK! Therefore, the orange doesn't 'read' as a distinct different color of the theme, yet adds detail without being 'fiddly'. 

 

With so many helmets over so many decades, it would be tough to do simple colors and designs that do not appear to be ripoffs of prior drivers. 



#122 VladimirBrown

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 17:41

Remove this sensless ugly sh** and you'll get a decent helmet 

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Hm... nope. Don't think that solves the problem to be honest...

 

But it does show how much Red Bull values its new partnership with Honda though.

 

It's like:

"So you guys going to let us have some branding on the helmet?"
"On the helmet? Ehm... yes?"
"Great! So can we, like, have a big Honda logo above the visor like the guys at Mercedes?"
"So... that's actually taken... but we'll find a cool spot for you."
"Like around the halo? Like Marlboro used to have at Ferrari?"
"We were actually thinking of a stamp-sized little square right above our HUGE RED BULL LOGO on the side, right next to our HUGE RED BULL LOGO ABOVE THE VISOR."
"Oh well... ok, I guess. Can we at least write Honda under the–"
"No."


Edited by VladimirBrown, 05 February 2019 - 17:58.


#123 Silberpfeil

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 19:38

Here’s Gasly’s reveal: https://twitter.com/...1712112643?s=21

That’s just so… bland.

#124 Jeeves

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 20:42

Matt Campbell:

http://www.dailyspor...12-2019-066.jpg

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#125 midgrid

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 20:58

Gasly's helmet is actually a good, simple, clear design despite the Red Bull limitations.

It can even be described concisely (a common complaint of many contemporary designs is that this is difficult): a red front and top and a dark blue back and sides (including Red Bull logos within the latter sections), separated by a white band.

Come to think of it, perhaps a helmet design can be considered to be good if it can be described purely using heraldic language. :p

#126 thegamer23

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 21:07

I like Gasly's, but I fear it will be very similar to Kvyats

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(that's his latest Toro Rosso one, but he may change it this year)

#127 CL16

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 21:10

Helmets look a lot different this year without the zylon and the lower brow of the visor gap.

#128 A3

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 21:51

So Gasly and Verstappen both have white where the Honda logo is. I still have faith that somehow this will translate onto the livery.

#129 VladimirBrown

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 21:53

I think Gasly actually did a good job, especially considering the nightmare it must be to do something interesting with those absurd Red Bull limitations.

There's obviously an idea there and it's easy to remember. It even looks like he asked Sean Bull to come up with a minimalist version of his helmet and used that.

#130 SenorSjon

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 10:36

Funny that Gasly looks more like the orange theme Verstappen had. I still don't know why he doesn't use his 2017 Spa design for the whole season. 

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But I guess the RB brass doesn't like their logo to be so out of sight.



#131 BuddyHolly

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 10:39

I'll be glad when this fad on 'spikes' dies out..  horrible looking things. :down:



#132 SenorSjon

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 12:52

Those spikes seem to be hard to get rid off. The metallic and gloss seems a bit out of fashion now in trade of more matte coloring. 



#133 maximilian

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 13:22

Funny that Gasly looks more like the orange theme Verstappen had. I still don't know why he doesn't use his 2017 Spa design for the whole season. 

max-verstappen-helmet-spa-2017-3.jpg

 

But I guess the RB brass doesn't like their logo to be so out of sight.

 

THIS.  It's about the ONLY RB helmet that's ever looked any good.  Also beyond me why he would choose this white snoozefest instead!



#134 SenorSjon

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 13:40

Like I said, the RB logo's don't stand out enough.



#135 A3

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 13:40

Also beyond me why he would choose this white snoozefest instead!


Seriously? Do you think he has a choice? As a Red Bull driver, you have to put the Red Bull logo (in yellow/red) on the side and above the visor.

#136 maximilian

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 14:06

Seriously? Do you think he has a choice? As a Red Bull driver, you have to put the Red Bull logo (in yellow/red) on the side and above the visor.

 

I know they have their guidelines, but everybody has become jaded to these standard RB helmets who all blend together without identity, and they don't stand out in the context of the car livery.  This really cool orange helmet would become iconic in no time, much more seen, photographed and talked about, and giving the logo a lot more exposure.  It's a marketing opportunity MISSED, if anything.



#137 Burai

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 14:35

I know they have their guidelines, but everybody has become jaded to these standard RB helmets who all blend together without identity, and they don't stand out in the context of the car livery.  This really cool orange helmet would become iconic in no time, much more seen, photographed and talked about, and giving the logo a lot more exposure.  It's a marketing opportunity MISSED, if anything.

 

Doesn't the fact that everyone talks about it constantly and posts pictures of it at every opportunity, even though he only wore it for one weekend mean that the marketing opportunity was executed absolutely perfectly?

 

And one other thing to think about... What if Max doesn't actually want to wear an orange helmet every weekend?



#138 maximilian

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 14:41

Doesn't the fact that everyone talks about it constantly and posts pictures of it at every opportunity, even though he only wore it for one weekend mean that the marketing opportunity was executed absolutely perfectly?

 

And one other thing to think about... What if Max doesn't actually want to wear an orange helmet every weekend?

 

Can lead a horse to water!  :lol:



#139 SonGoku

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 14:59

The RBR logos on the helmets aren't needed at all, the driver is already sitting in a Red Bull car, so the whole world knows, but Dieter doesn't care I guess.



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#140 Beri

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 15:22

The RBR logos on the helmets aren't needed at all, the driver is already sitting in a Red Bull car, so the whole world knows, but Dieter doesn't care I guess.


Drivers being photographed outside the car..? Probably they are photographed outside the car even more than inside.

#141 A3

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 15:49

The RBR logos on the helmets aren't needed at all, the driver is already sitting in a Red Bull car, so the whole world knows, but Dieter doesn't care I guess.


Are you kidding?
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#142 Burai

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 16:02

The RBR logos on the helmets aren't needed at all, the driver is already sitting in a Red Bull car, so the whole world knows, but Dieter doesn't care I guess.

 

What does the billionaire energy drinks magnate Dietrich Mateschitz know about branding and advertising that we don't, right?



#143 P123

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 16:11

What does the billionaire energy drinks magnate Dietrich Mateschitz know about branding and advertising that we don't, right?


All we know is that it doesn't lend itself to much freedom for design, although given the mess of most of them that's maybe a good thing!

#144 VladimirBrown

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 16:24

I know they have their guidelines, but everybody has become jaded to these standard RB helmets who all blend together without identity, and they don't stand out in the context of the car livery.  This really cool orange helmet would become iconic in no time, much more seen, photographed and talked about, and giving the logo a lot more exposure.  It's a marketing opportunity MISSED, if anything.

 

Kind of like Senna and Dumfires in the Lotus. Dumfires' helmet was much more in sync with the car's livery, yet when somebody mentions the black Lotus, it's not the black and gold helmet you immediately think of.



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Posted 06 February 2019 - 16:30

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It's 100 times better as a start without those ret*rded blue lignes 

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#146 VladimirBrown

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 16:39

What does the billionaire energy drinks magnate Dietrich Mateschitz know about branding and advertising that we don't, right?

 

Well, if we take this thread, probably 130 of the 145 posts so far have been criticizing the brand, so at least within this somewhat niched environment, the strategy isn't working particularly well.



#147 A3

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 16:58

Is their strategy new? Or unique to Formula 1? Don’t think so...

Yet I see people here walking around in Red Bull shirts and jackets.

Edited by A3, 06 February 2019 - 17:00.


#148 SonGoku

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 18:54

If Dieter wants a mess of helmets, be my guest, I am just happy my favourite driver will never have to wear one.


Edited by SonGoku, 06 February 2019 - 18:55.


#149 A3

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 19:10

If Dieter wants a mess of helmets, be my guest, I am just happy my favourite driver will never have to wear one.


I'm so glad you're happy and that you allow the owner of the fizzy drinks company to keep his branding strategy consistent through all the sports he sponsors.
Really, thank you.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 21:23

Well, if we take this thread, probably 130 of the 145 posts so far have been criticizing the brand, so at least within this somewhat niched environment, the strategy isn't working particularly well.

 


Like it or not, but us talking about it this much means the strategy IS working.