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#51 ixnay

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:09

The front nose gold band reminds me of the MP4-30.

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#52 danmills

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:10

Looks fast  :clap:  :clap:  :lol:



#53 Silberpfeil

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:11

Got a heavy SPM vibe from the overalls. Other than that, I‘m not a huge fan. It looks decent, but nothing special. Also, they lifted the nose straight from the Lotus cars of earlier in the decade.

#54 ixnay

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:11

Looks fast :clap: :clap: :lol:

chuckled when Kevin said that.

Edited by ixnay, 07 February 2019 - 11:12.


#55 RedBaron

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:11

Not as cool as I'd hoped it would be. Nicer than last years Haas though, but weaker than the 2018 Red Bull livery.

#56 PiperPa42

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:13

reverse US flag on the renders!

On aircraft you usually put the flag the way it would fly. This makes it reverse on the right side, they could be going for the same here.
Here is Air Force One as an example.
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And Haas has done it previously.
_103612075_haas_getty2.jpg

Edited by PiperPa42, 07 February 2019 - 11:15.


#57 Marklar

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:13

I'm confused. I thought it was just a new livery, but it clearly has new stuff, how?

The livery is meh. It's a Lotus with inferior gold elements for me. But then again it's a upgrade for sure.



#58 thegamer23

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:13

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Menacing



#59 Peat

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:13

Literally all the 'fan art' concepts were better.

That looks like a 5 minute MsPaint job. 

Splodge. Splodge. Done. 



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#60 Boing 2

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:14

Colour scheme's giving Grosjean flashbacks.....



#61 ixnay

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:14

I'm a little disappointed with it tbh. It's just black and not much else. The gold is too sparse (didn't know that was possible until now), the sponsor logo colours clash all over, the scoop band on the nose reminds me of the black MP4-30 which makes it feel even more generic.
I may be the odd one out, but I really liked the red, grey, white.

#62 Anja

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:14

Pretty basic, isn't it? Looks decent enough not to be bad but that's about it. 



#63 midgrid

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:15

reverse US flag on the renders!

 

It's reversed on that side because the stars must always face in the direction of travel, according to military uniform flag use.



#64 ixnay

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:15

On aircraft you usually put the flag the way it would fly. This makes it reverse on the right side, they could be going for the same here.
Here is Air Force One as an example.
130629161030-air-force-one-sam-26000-tou

And Haas has done it previously.
_103612075_haas_getty2.jpg


Yep. The flag on the port side will look correct way. Similar to military applications.

#65 TomNokoe

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:15

Rich Energy - Poor Livery



#66 ernestomodena

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:16

When I see the front I see Lotus.

 

The thing I like from the livery is the Rich energy logo on the Halo.

The rest is more like White > black AND red > white



#67 Clatter

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:16

I like the livery. Plain and simple works for me. Splashing a load of colours on the car doesn't make it faster.

#68 Boing 2

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:16

On the plus side the banter was top notch.



#69 midgrid

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:17

I quite like it - less is more.  It looks better than the recent gold Lotuses.

 

It'll be interesting to see how the gold-and-silver combination works on track.



#70 krapmeister

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:17

Looks to me from the livery (or lack thereof) that HAAS is hedging its bets on whether RICH ENERGY will be around for the full season...



#71 Anja

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:19

That's a new car, not just a new livery

 

Without any thorough comparison my guess would be that it's the 2018 chassis with some new aero bits to suit the 2019 look. It's a pretty standard solution for these kind of events when you can't and/or don't want to show the whole thing too soon. 


Edited by Anja, 07 February 2019 - 11:20.


#72 danmills

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:22

I like it, but am more keen on the finances of it all.



#73 messy

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:22

The only Haas livery I've liked is probably the one they started 2017 with, but that lasted about four races. Last year they just seemed to go back to the 2016 colour scheme. 

 

This......um, need to see it on track. It's not dire. 



#74 JacobRPP

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:23

Wow, the salt in the forum is just wow.

The car looks amazing. I like the incorporation of the stag in the livery.

I do not care for who the sponsor is, the artist behind the car is good.

Edited by JacobRPP, 07 February 2019 - 11:24.


#75 GiorgioF1

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:24

The new livery is not bad but they could have done so much better that this.



#76 grunf77

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:26

Whats a deal with  deer antlers?  :lol:



#77 Owen

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:27

How is this being paid for? scratches beard



#78 RSRally

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:28

Haas F1 team will BEAT Red Bull this season, according to team’s sponsors, Rich Energy

Storey: "We are confident we will beat Red Bull in many races this year. That is holy grail marketing but sometimes you get a bit of serendipity and right timing."
"Red Bull have spent £250billion in F1 and last year across Toro Rosso and Red Bull, there or there abouts, £400million"
"Ultimately, we are going to have a better-looking car."

:lol:

https://www.thesun.c...-red-bull-2019/


That is terribly written. Story speaks quite well, they can't have been his exact words.

#79 ixnay

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:29

Wow, the salt in the forum is just wow.

The car looks amazing. I like the incorporation of the stag in the livery.

I do not care for who the sponsor is, the artist behind the car is good.


I understand sometimes less is more. But this is black with three edge tip lines (engine cover, front wing end plates), and a reused scoop down the nose. The rest is just slapped on.

I'm not even convinced that the placement of RE name on the roll hope air intake will translate to being easily visible on track at speed and angle. The only stand out is the Haas name,as with previous years.

Oh, and golden mirrors. It's lacklustre even for minimal.

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#80 Anja

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:30

I do not care for who the sponsor is, the artist behind the car is good.

 

The "artist" barely did anything here. It looks like half an hour's worth of work. 



#81 Laster

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:30

Meh, I neither hate nor love the livery. Black is just a very boring colour. I hope Renault uses more yellow than black this year.

#82 JacobRPP

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:35

I understand sometimes less is more. But this is black with three edge tip lines (engine cover, front wing end plates), and a reused scoop down the nose. The rest is just slapped on.

I'm not even convinced that the placement of RE name on the roll hope air intake will translate to being easily visible on track at speed and angle. The only stand out is the Haas name,as with previous years.

Oh, and golden mirrors. It's lacklustre even for minimal.


So you are a fan of cars over-plastered with commercials. Good for you. For all the reasons that you mentioned I like it. I like to see a car that is not heavily dependent on sponsors or a billboard on wheels. Much like the Audi's of Le Mans.

#83 johnwilliamdavies

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:39

Whats a deal with  deer antlers?  :lol:

 

Sponsored by Whyte bikes. 



#84 Stephane

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:43

Looks like a Lotus livery when you run out of gold paint.



#85 A3

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:46

The renders online are from the 2019 challenger, that's not the 2018 car.

https://www.auto-mot...9-f1-auto-2019/

Edited by A3, 07 February 2019 - 11:47.


#86 jcbc3

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:49

Not enough rake. We're doomed.

#87 Talisman

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:53

Rich Energy - Poor Livery


Dull as dishwater but it suggests Rich energy have paid enough to warrant a colour switch away from HAAS’ own brand so the money must be there from that deal.

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:58

That front wing should do a good job of clearing the snow in Barcelona :lol:



#89 Neno

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:10

Looks great to me. 



#90 thegamer23

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:22

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#91 Owen

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:24

Looks really long in that pic for some reason.



#92 TheGoldenStoffel

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:27

HAAS should've been written in gold as well in my opinion.



#93 Beamer

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:29

quite like it actually....



#94 wj_gibson

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:38

Mind, I hope they haven't signed Ronnie Peterson just to be a no. 2 to Mario Andretti.



#95 CL16

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:39

HAAS should've been written in gold as well in my opinion.


I suspect it’s white so it’s actually visible.

If you remember the 2011 Lotus:

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It began life very much a black and gold car but under certain light it was hard to see as it’s not particularly contrasting.

Fast forward we had a black and cream lotus:

f1-abu-dhabi-gp-2012-race-winner-kimi-ra

Rich energy must have insisted on chrome gold.

#96 7MGTEsup

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:43

Haas F1 team will BEAT Red Bull this season, according to team’s sponsors, Rich Energy

 

Storey: "We are confident we will beat Red Bull in many races this year. That is holy grail marketing but sometimes you get a bit of serendipity and right timing."

"Red Bull have spent £250billion in F1 and last year across Toro Rosso and Red Bull, there or there abouts, £400million"

"Ultimately, we are going to have a better-looking car."

 

:lol:

 

https://www.thesun.c...-red-bull-2019/

 

£250 billion in what 20 years? So that's £12.5 billion a year. This guy's a fruit loop....

 

I'm not sure you can call finishing when the other car breaks down beating (technically it is) but beating them on merit?



#97 Paco

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:44

Horrible.

#98 RECKLESS

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:44

I think it looks great. Black n gold usually works.

#99 zaviali

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:46

Looks menacing, I quite like it. Also, its often very rightly said that liking or not liking is a very subjective thing and hence not everyone can be pleased. I am sure that aesthetics would have been looked at carefully but sponsor requests need to be catered as well. In terms of design those sidepods look slick and so reminiscent to last year's Ferrari. It'll be very interesting to see where HAAS stack this current season with Renault on the up, Force India with better financial stability and McLaren reestablishing itself but also Williams should not be forgotten. I think HAAS will have a difficult year because Sauber with Raikkonen should also be a big threat. In short, midfield battle is going to be mega this season and I have a feeling HAAS might not be as strong as last couple of seasons however I wish the team and driver's best of luck for 2019.

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#100 CL16

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 12:52

Does anyone know if they’re still receiving Ferrari’s blue prints from the previous season or was it just the first couple?