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#151 baddog

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 04:54

Lots of folks didn't notice that the 2018 Renault was yellow with black accents from top and front, but black with yellow accents from the side. It was brilliant that way. 

 

I thought it was awful because from different angles you cant instantly see what car it is.. livery should be strong and uniquely identify a team. 



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#152 BalanceUT

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 02:34

Solid first day of testing! Grosjean showed the car could run well. Tuesday has to be about getting a ton of laps down to learn about reliability. 



#153 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 16:18

Haas appear as having good speed, only testing and all... still grounds for optimism for the 2019 I think, did not run a high number of laps, and seemed to simply not finding it worthwhile the first hour when track was so cold useful data would be hard to get.

 

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#154 BalanceUT

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 18:42

Not the best day today, but not as bad as it could be. Still working out kinks and that's what testing is for. 



#155 GoGro

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 09:56

Solid start this morning, I am very optimistic  :clap:

 

The car seems to have good potential



#156 motohead

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 18:26

Not sure what to think. Runs on compound 3 look competitive. But all runs on compounds 4 and 5 have been relatively slow compared to many other midfield teams. Have they not really pushed or are they having problems making the softer compounds work?

#157 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 19:19

Let’s wait for the last day. Last season they flew under the radar as well until the last day.

#158 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 21:14

Top 4 team.

 

:cool:



#159 Myrvold

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 21:49

Top 4 team.

 

:cool:

Haas has gotten better along with Ferrari getting better

 

:cool:



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#160 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 21:55

Haas has gotten better along with Ferrari getting better

 

:cool:

 

Haas has gotten better the longer they have been in F1, Haas have gotten better as the Ferrari engine have gotten better. Which is different than your implication.

 

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#161 RSRally

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 19:57

A bit difficult to see the details because of the black colour scheme but looks like the bodywork is heavily based on last year’s Ferrari once again. Obviously not exactly the same because of the rule changes.

#162 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 19:59

A bit difficult to see the details because of the black colour scheme but looks like the bodywork is heavily based on last year’s Ferrari once again. Obviously not exactly the same because of the rule changes.

 

Inspired by.... Look at how all teams are inspired by each other, why is it Haas is being singled out?

 

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#163 RSRally

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 22:23

Inspired by.... Look at how all teams are inspired by each other, why is it Haas is being singled out?

:cool:


It’s not just Haas, Red Bull and Torro Rosso are sharing a lot too, so much so that they don’t bother with a technical director any more.

I understand there are plans to clamp down on this for the new rules in 2021 though? Be interesting to see what Haas do then.

#164 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 12:27

It’s not just Haas, Red Bull and Torro Rosso are sharing a lot too, so much so that they don’t bother with a technical director any more.

I understand there are plans to clamp down on this for the new rules in 2021 though? Be interesting to see what Haas do then.

 

Haas will do exactly what they have done all along, compete according to the rules and regulations the sport is run under. The current ones which clearly do not have them fielding a Ferrari car or clone in any way, like Alfa Romero is not even they are as defacto a Ferrari development team, as does Toro Rosso not, even they are a defacto Red Bull development team.

 

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#165 RSRally

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 14:30

Haas will do exactly what they have done all along, compete according to the rules and regulations the sport is run under. The current ones which clearly do not have them fielding a Ferrari car or clone in any way, like Alfa Romero is not even they are as defacto a Ferrari development team, as does Toro Rosso not, even they are a defacto Red Bull development team.

:cool:


Never made any suggestion Haas are breaking the rules, but if the rules change such that their current model no longer works, I was wondering how Haas would handle that in terms of the extra budget and facilities that may be required.

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Posted 03 March 2019 - 05:08

Never made any suggestion Haas are breaking the rules, but if the rules change such that their current model no longer works, I was wondering how Haas would handle that in terms of the extra budget and facilities that may be required.

Liberty's supposed brief is that they will propose or create changes which make it easier to compete both in terms of finance and technology. I don't see the Haas model going anywhere but up. The other teams who whisper about Haas are the ones who feel threatened by change.



#167 potmotr

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 12:41

Having watched the Netflix documentary, I must say Haas is my new favourite team!

 

Loved the no bullshit style of management by Gunther Steiner, unpretentious approach of Gene Haas.

Guys on the team look really great too, even the drivers. 

 

Bravo!  :clap:



#168 Maxioos

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 13:11

Having watched the Netflix documentary, I must say Haas is my new favourite team!
 
Loved the no bullshit style of management by Gunther Steiner, unpretentious approach of Gene Haas.

Guys on the team look really great too, even the drivers. 
 
Bravo!  :clap:


I like Haas from the start and continuing growing respect for their performance. Gone look for the documentary. Thanx for the tip.

#169 potmotr

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 14:22

I like Haas from the start and continuing growing respect for their performance. Gone look for the documentary. Thanx for the tip.

 

No worries. It's 10 episodes and Haas features prominently in several of them. Gunther Steiner is the man, so honest.



#170 Jovanotti

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 16:05

If only they could hire some decent drivers for once.

#171 MikeV1987

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 16:31

Grosjean is iffy but kmag is pretty decent.

#172 Montie

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 16:33

If only they could hire some decent drivers for once.


They have two great drivers.

#173 Jovanotti

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 17:18

They are both quick but total nutjobs. Haas could be much better off with a safe pair of hands, because car and operations clearly are very good.

Edited by Jovanotti, 09 March 2019 - 17:18.


#174 potmotr

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 18:04

I think they're both pretty good when on form.

 

They're about right for where Haas is currently at I think.

 

An on-form Grosjean is formidable.



#175 BalanceUT

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 17:18

Inspired by.... Look at how all teams are inspired by each other, why is it Haas is being singled out?

 

:cool:

Anti-Americanism. 



#176 RSRally

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 17:33

Anti-Americanism.


How so? They’re American owned but not really an American team.

We have to look back to USF1 for that.

#177 BalanceUT

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 17:49

How so? They’re American owned but not really an American team.

We have to look back to USF1 for that.

You are suggesting that facts and logic would blunt tribal biases when all the scientific evidence shows no positive effect. 



#178 Myrvold

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 18:49

Anti-Americanism. 

Ye, no - go back to discussions about Toro Rosso over the years... Prodrive when they planned to join F1 etc.



#179 BuddyHolly

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 14:55

Good luck in 2019 guys!  all the best!



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#180 danmills

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 15:15

An on-form Grosjean is formidable.

 

:lol: That's a bold statement considering he hasn't really achieved anything in any form yet. 



#181 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 16:20

:lol: That's a bold statement considering he hasn't really achieved anything in any form yet. 

 

Depend on what is defined as achieving... There have been 751 drivers taking at least 1 GP start, only 71 one of those have more podiums than him and his 10, only 7 on the current grid have more than 10. He has led 7 GP', only 175 of all drivers have led, and only 67 have led more.

 

Considering the cars he has had in his career I think he has done ok.

 

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#182 potmotr

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 16:48

I think he's pretty decent, certainly about right for Haas at this stage in their history.



#183 Kaiser

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 17:29

Nice technical discussion about the paint 



#184 loki

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 17:56

Nice technical discussion about the paint 

I'm waiting for someone to drop in and say that paint is from last years Ferrari...



#185 RSRally

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 23:32

I'm waiting for someone to drop in and say that paint is from last years Ferrari...


Polish it too hard and the red might show through ;)

#186 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 10:25

Well done HAAS  :clap:  :clap:

 

What a rocketship of a car.  I didn't expect them to be so quick, HAAS really are a world class team.  So impressive.  :)



#187 lahill

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 10:31

I have to say I am very impressed how Haas has come to F1. Well done.

#188 Lord_Shaitan

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 10:37

Time to make use of the positions tomorrow. The car seems to be very competitive :up: . Good luck boys :clap:



#189 Baddoer

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:18

I guess Haas was quietly sandbagging all winter to get rid of those noises about running obvious Ferrari client chassis.



#190 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:37

I guess Haas was quietly sandbagging all winter to get rid of those noises about running obvious Ferrari client chassis.

 

 

Yawn.....  go peddle your stupid conspiracy in non-serious threads.

 

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Edited by KWSN - DSM, 16 March 2019 - 11:41.


#191 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:40

Haas started out strong in Australia last year, Haas have started out strong in Australia every year - Hopefully they can maintain form through the season, and not tail of as it goes along, which have the case each year they have been on the grid.

 

Hope for good clean starts for both drivers tomorrow, there is a strong result for the taking in the Class B rankings.

 

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 13:10

I'll give Haas their dues... for all those (myself included) who complain about how they are able to have a fast car, to actually run it as well as they do and get the speed out of it is a testament to their engineering department. Grosjean was only 4 tenths off Leclerc and Ferrari in what is ostensibly a Ferrari-derived car, not bad at all.


Edited by DanardiF1, 16 March 2019 - 13:11.


#193 Button4life

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 13:31

No suprise here. Haas always starts well because it's basically the Ferrari of last year. It will be interesting to see if they drop off when the season progresses like last years.

#194 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 13:33

With the exception of Williams all the other teams can and will be 'best of the rest' during the season, some tracks will suit some cars and drivers, some tracks will suit others, some teams development will be better than others.

 

Haas have from the moment they entered run a well run and professional team, they have had their blunders, but overall a very strong and credible performance from their first race and onwards. I do not expect them to be the class of the Class B field, however getting the points they left all over the place at the beginning of last season will come handy at the end when the 'trophies' are handed out.

 

Tomorrow we learn about race speed, then we can for our favorite teams get unreasonable high hopes, make over hyped statements, sling a little towards the other teams (and drivers) we for inexplicable reasons do not like.

 

I am very happy with the Haas start so far.

 

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#195 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 13:34

No suprise here. Haas always starts well because it's basically the Ferrari of last year. It will be interesting to see if they drop off when the season progresses like last years.

 

It is not a Ferrari from another season, go peddle this in the grind thread where you drivel have no meaning as it should not have in a serious thread dealing with the Haas team.

 

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#196 PistolPete

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 15:11

No suprise here. Haas always starts well because it's basically the Ferrari of last year. It will be interesting to see if they drop off when the season progresses like last years.


Silly statement...

#197 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 15:33

No suprise here. Haas always starts well because it's basically the Ferrari of last year. It will be interesting to see if they drop off when the season progresses like last years.

I believe they were pretty consistent, pacewise, all season last year. It was just the drivers that dropped off now and then.

#198 jcbc3

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 15:41

... It was just the drivers that dropped off now and then.


errrh, Australian Gp 2018 pitstops.....

#199 BalanceUT

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 16:10

Proud of the drivers, proud that USA team Haas is showing solid performance at the start of the season, yet again. Proof will be in the race, naturally, but this is a great way to start. 

 

Three teams had both cars in Q3: Mercedes, Ferrari, Haas.

 

It takes good cars, good technical teams, good drivers, and tactical execution to get both cars into Q3. Miss on any one of those and you will not make it, as shown by the tactical error by Red Bull and the lack of car (probably) by Renault. 

 

Will the alleged infusion of $$ from Rich Energy be sufficient to allow the team to be more competitive as the season wears on or will we see them slowly lose ground to other teams as in past years? 

 

Haas is an enjoyable team to watch. 



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Posted 16 March 2019 - 17:05

Outside shot of a podium :up: