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Ricciardo says Red Bulls handling of Baku contributed to his decision to leave


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#1 lbennie

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 05:05

I did a search and couldn't find anything on this, but we have some new quotes, this week, from Both Dan & Helmut about the Baku crash that is worthy of discussion.

 

If there is a thread already going that this would be better off being posted to, apologies mod's, but I could not find it.

 

 

First Dan:

 

 

"We both got a talking to, putting it politely. I felt like I was not really in the wrong, even if I'm the one that hit him. I think most people saw the double move.

 
"Before that there was a lot of contact, and a lot of people thought it went on too long. I guess the way it was handled at the time didn't sit too well with me.
 
"Handling the media, I get. It's a big brand to look after. I get it doesn't help if we both go off at each other. But I felt there was a bit of equal blame (from the team). And maybe it's just me being a stubborn race car driver but I didn't think it was an equal incident, is the easiest way to put it. "So that was a little thing, I guess, which bothered me. But it wasn't the deal-breaker."

 

Sounds like there could be more that happened behind the scenes?

 

 

Helmut:

 

 

“Verstappen could have avoided the accident, since Ricciardo was too fast,” Marko told Motorsport.com.

 
“He had not made the turn. He should have used the exit strip. Max should have gone to the side. But instead we got a scandal.”
 
On how he managed to get ahead of Dan again with the undercut, after Dan had just gotten past on track, just prior to the accident: 
 
Marko says the situation which put Verstappen back ahead of Ricciardo was not intended from the Red Bull pitwall.
 
“Verstappen told us that his tyres were ready,” Marko said. “His lap time had just dropped by more than three-quarters of a second.
 
“Then Verstappen got the signal to come in and suddenly he drove two green sectors! With tyres that, according to what he had said earlier, were at their end.” 

 

It looks like helmut is saying Max lied to the pitwall about his tyres being done in order to get the undercut and get ahead of Dan again.

 

Discuss?


Edited by lbennie, 14 February 2019 - 05:06.


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#2 dbltop

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 06:02

Perhaps Helmut is just an asshole?



#3 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 06:21

Did you search the Renault topic you post in frequently because these quotes are in there already?

Edited by FullOppositeLock, 14 February 2019 - 06:22.


#4 lbennie

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 06:27

Did you search the Renault topic you post in frequently because these quotes are in there already?

 

Why would I search the Renault post, What has it got to do with them? And no I have posted in there probably 3 times total over the last couple of weeks.

 

No need to be snarky. If you could link me to some posts in there, I'll shut this down though, I'm interested to see opinions on it.


Edited by lbennie, 14 February 2019 - 06:28.


#5 danstheman

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 06:39

Did you search the Renault topic you post in frequently because these quotes are in there already?

 

Noooo please let's not infect that topic. This has nothing to do with Renault lol

 

With the 2018 Max and Dan threads closed this is the only place for this topic IMO



#6 DeVol

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 06:40

Not much of a surprise really, most commentators saw the double move too.

 

As for RBR's reaction, well originally I thought they said "both at fault" just for the stewards, but seems it was a bit more like Turkey 2010.

 

The Verstappen comments are interesting, if he really did call it early to sneak an undercut, well I'm totally impressed by that really, the kid sure is stone cold.  :lol:



#7 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 06:40

As we said in the last thread:

Closed while the mod team can decide what action, if any needs to be taken.

Edit: The team has decided that the news has passed and this has basically become a driver thread, so it will remain closed. Future discussion can take place in the Renault 2019 car thread, as would normally be the case, or once the season starts in a Dan vs Hulk thread.


As FOL says, no need for a new thread which is retreading one we closed.