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#1 Currahee

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 12:08


Don't know if this has already been started or not but I thought with this morning's news I'd mention it.

Paul di Resta announced for Aston Martin for this season.

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#2 Victor_RO

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 13:08

Don't know if this has already been started or not but I thought with this morning's news I'd mention it.

Paul di Resta announced for Aston Martin for this season.

 

Also Jake Dennis. https://twitter.com/...027832885694464

 

Guess that pole lap at Bathurst a couple of weeks ago turned some heads...



#3 DanardiF1

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 15:10

Are we going to see the car soon? Audi and BMW already have miles on their new cars, and I presume that HWA have been on a similar schedule as they were expecting to carry on anyway before Aston came in...

#4 boomn

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 16:54

I saw this at the bottom of an article about the Jake Dennis signing:

 

R-Motorsport will officially unveil its team and new cars in a launch event on Wednesday


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#5 HistoryFan

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 13:41

Ferdinand Habsburg could run another Aston Martin car (4 cars planed).



#6 Anja

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 11:34

Ferdinand Habsburg could run another Aston Martin car (4 cars planed).

 

Confirmed now, and Juncadella in the 4th car.

 

https://www.motorspo...rsport/4340330/


Edited by Anja, 19 February 2019 - 12:11.


#7 Silverstone96

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 12:39

Seems they maybe ready for first round after all...

 

Still doesn't seem right having Aston in touring cars though!



#8 JHSingo

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 18:47

The Aston DTM car made its track debut today. What does everyone think?

 

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I personally think the road going version is ugly anyway, so I'm not keen on this either. Maybe it'll look better in a proper livery?

 

Still doesn't seem right having Aston in touring cars though!

 

Agreed. It's weird. Although given they're now using Mustangs in Supercars, I guess what classes as a "touring car" rather goes out the window depending on how desperate you are to get a healthy grid! :lol:



#9 messy

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 18:57

DTM hasn't been really been a 'touring car' series since its' last iteration, has it? They're GT cars, sportscars.

I quite like the Aston. It has that fighter-jet thing going on.

#10 Kev00

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 19:19

Not liking the Aston Martin line up at all. They haven’t moved over any of their main factory drivers. Would have expected Martin or Thiim to get a seat. And out of the youngsters id rather have seen Kirchhöfer over Dennis. Habsburg is just a pay driver I assume. WRT Audi still have to announce two drivers as well.

#11 Imateria

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 19:37

Looks better than the GT car at least.



#12 TennisUK

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 20:42

Not liking the Aston Martin line up at all. They haven’t moved over any of their main factory drivers. Would have expected Martin or Thiim to get a seat. And out of the youngsters id rather have seen Kirchhöfer over Dennis. Habsburg is just a pay driver I assume. WRT Audi still have to announce two drivers as well.


It’s not a factory effort so it’s not surprising Aston haven’t leant them any drivers.

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 22:38

Hope di Resta does well.

As for the car, it’s a reskinned Merc isn’t it?

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 23:24

The Aston DTM car made its track debut today. What does everyone think?

 

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I personally think the road going version is ugly anyway, so I'm not keen on this either. Maybe it'll look better in a proper livery?

 

 

Agreed. It's weird. Although given they're now using Mustangs in Supercars, I guess what classes as a "touring car" rather goes out the window depending on how desperate you are to get a healthy grid! :lol:

 

It's quite extreme looking, isn't it? I think the base model isn't bad looking car, but this has the effect of a Group B Audi Quattro with a huge body kit. The oversized bonnet grilles are the only bit I really don't like.

 

As others have said, DTM isn't really a touring car series. It's a silhouette series, and it sort of fits in. As for non-touring cars, I think Win Percy winning the British Saloon Car Championship (as it was known back then) in a Mazda RX-7 is the epitome of wrong category of car in a series.



#15 boomn

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 00:21

The Aston looks like it would fit in well in GT500!.  The two series have converged even closer this year to nearly identical regulations, but personally I think the car models used in GT500 are more fitting for the speed and crazy aero of these class 1 rules.  I really hope we see some team crossover between the series in future years, or at least some guest cars or joint events



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Posted 05 March 2019 - 04:39

Looks yuck imo. The rear 3/4 of the car is weirdly shaped. It's basically a reskinned Mercedes C-Class and you can tell by the hump above the rear fender that is shaped that way because of the C63 road car. They just changed the aero for this year's rules, redid the front end and called it an Aston Martin.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 17:39

 As for non-touring cars, I think Win Percy winning the British Saloon Car Championship (as it was known back then) in a Mazda RX-7 is the epitome of wrong category of car in a series.

Which a lot of people thought at the time!  But as it was a funny rotary-engined Japanese thingy, it wasn't taken seriously until too late.  Of course, there have been others - since when was the Jaguar XJS a saloon car?

 

It's basically a reskinned Mercedes C-Class and you can tell by the hump above the rear fender that is shaped that way because of the C63 road car. They just changed the aero for this year's rules, redid the front end and called it an Aston Martin.

Bingo!  There is precious little Aston Martin DNA in this car.  Maybe the grille?  It is just a Mercedes clone to fill the grid up.



#18 Silberpfeil

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 12:19

To give this thread a little bump, here‘s the latest bits of news from the final preseason test at the Lausitzring.

Audis are very quick on a single lap, BMWs are unreliable, and the Astons are surprisingly good on long runs. (Even though that might partly be down to Juncadella flattering the car – he was quite good at extracting tyre life last year.)

Oh, and Pietro Fittipaldi gets the second WRT Audi seat. Good for him, and good for WRT, considering I‘m not entirely sold on Aberdein.

#19 Kev00

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 12:33

Disappointed in the seats filled at Aston Martin and WRT. Seems they are prioritising their GT programme over DTM.

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#20 Silberpfeil

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 12:56

Disappointed in the seats filled at Aston Martin and WRT. Seems they are prioritising their GT programme over DTM.

I wouldn‘t say that, at least not with regard to Aston, who nabbed two very capable DTM drivers, an established and fast R-Motorsport driver, and a promising youngster whose loss WRT is still sore over. It‘s a great mix, especially considering that Aston themselves have apparently very little to do with the project, the whole thing being mainly a joint venture between R-Motorsport & HWA.

WRT, on the other hand, needed drivers with a budget, so I don‘t blame them for not involving their best GT drivers in an unnecessary double programme.

#21 GenJackRipper

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 16:18

Has DTM raced in France?



#22 Viryfan

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 16:33

Has DTM raced in France?

 

Yes in Magny Cours (1995-1996), Le Mans (2006-2008) and Dijon (2009).



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Posted 02 May 2019 - 10:01

TECHNICAL REGULATIONS

 

The most important factor of DTM’s new technical regulations is be the common part concept, as it is layed out in the new “CLASS 1” rulebook. It results in clear cost reductions while also adding to the safety and equal-opportunity areas. Components of nearly all the areas of the car are standardised. For all these components, the manufacturers needn’t to invest in expensive design and development efforts. 

 

 

 

I like this. Equality.

 

And is it true that this year cars got push to pass button?



#24 Branislav

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:36

It is

 

https://www.youtube....3iD1w81vWClVa:6



#25 ANF

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 11:30


Free practice live

#26 messy

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 18:10

Impressed with the Astons so far. Right on the money.

#27 Silberpfeil

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 19:09

Having been to three of the previous four Hockenheim I weekends (and once at Hockenheim II last year), I must admit it’s quite weird not to be there this year. I would’ve loved to go, and thought about doing so last-minute, but preferred spending some quality time with the family instead.

It looks like we have a clear pecking order so far, at least on one-lap speed – Audi, BMW, and then Aston. Very much looking forward to tomorrow.

#28 Currahee

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:22


All 3 manufacturers on 1st 3 grid slots.

Anyone else watching? Quite damp...

#29 Silberpfeil

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:34

All 3 manufacturers on 1st 3 grid slots.

Anyone else watching? Quite damp...


Very damp! Excited to see what’ll happen in T1…

#30 Currahee

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:36

Very damp! Excited to see what’ll happen in T1…


Turn 3 surely...

#31 ANF

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:38

Standing start? Oh dear.

#32 Currahee

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:40


Quite tame. Lovely spin after turn 1 too.

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:40

superstart by Frijns! p5 to p2 in first corner.


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:44

A proper wet track, but the conditions should improve as the race goes on.



#35 Currahee

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:46


For a moment there I thought it was a 4 car race. di Resta in 5th wasnt even in shot after the hairpin.

#36 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:47

Purple and green sectors are showing up already, so the track gets better.



#37 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:57

We might even see a switch to slicks at the end of the race if the conditions continue to improve that fast. Laptimes will soon be under 1:50, still a long way to completely dry times of 1:30 from practice.



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Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:58

Top marks to DTM for the standing start in these conditions. A lot of other series would s**t their pants.



#39 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:20

I really hope that someone gambles with slicks in the last laps.

 

Edit: Aberdein makes the switch.  ;)

 

Edit2: But it's too early, he's losing a lot of time right now.


Edited by thegforcemaybewithyou, 04 May 2019 - 12:26.


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#40 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:28

Aerdein's is getting faster, he could be the fastest guy within 3 laps I think.



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Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:58

Good first race, even thought nothing would top the crazy good first race from last season. Shame for my main dude Rast but overall some stunning drives throughout the field. Hyped for tomorrow.



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Posted 04 May 2019 - 16:19

Why Rast retired?

 

I don't know what to watch tomorrow: motogp or DTM. What you say?



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Posted 04 May 2019 - 17:34

Once again, Juncadella stands out among the tyre-savers. He profitted massively from other cars hitting trouble in front of him, but still, to keep the tyres alive over literally the whole race, almost catching Müller at the end, was quite impressive.

Pace-wise, it looks like once again, Wittmann is BMW’s standout performer. Glock was unfortunate, of course, but I don’t think he could’ve troubled Wittmann, Rast or Rockenfeller on ultimate pace over the whole race. Rast was very unlucky as well, I would’ve liked to see the strategy games play out. Duval, despite his trip to the gravel, and van der Linde were the surprise stars for me, as was Dennis. A true shame about his clutch issue, he would’ve scored points easily.

Looking forward to tomorrow!

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 17:39

Why Rast retired?

 

I don't know what to watch tomorrow: motogp or DTM. What you say?

IMSA



#45 Silberpfeil

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 17:40

Why Rast retired?


I don’t think there’s a specific cause of retirement yet, but the Autosport race report says it was a gearbox issue, which traks with what I saw on the “ran” (German broadcaster SAT.1’s sports division) website. From the in-cockpit view of his retirement, Rast was still able to shift, and the engine revved, but the power just didn’t arrive where it should.

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 18:22

Race 1 nowhere to be found?



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Posted 04 May 2019 - 18:34

Race 1 nowhere to be found?

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=093CCMiNlg8



#48 Branislav

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 22:18

IMSA

I don't follow that. In USA Nascar is #1. Then I love Indianapolis 500, IndyCar series more/less because Indy is BIGGER than the whole series.



#49 Currahee

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 11:25


Dry race today. Overcast but dry.

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 11:34

Dang it, Robin!

 

Race 2 stream:

https://www.youtube....h?v=kKoSKXdhV78


Edited by balage06, 05 May 2019 - 11:39.