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#51 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 09:48

Donkey/45/47/28/14/37/7/32/49/11/9/30/2/10/44/43/17

 

Joining in late here, didn't watch the race but have seen the results.

 

How about crossing out predictions in your opening post for predictions which have already been voided and putting a mark against ones which have been completed to make it easier for players joining in later?

 

19. Gasly to get a podium before Verstappen does in the new Red Bull has already proven to be a dud and was a relatively popular option apparently :stoned:

 

I could track your predictions, but as you joined after the deadline of FP1 you would only compete for the places 16 and lower.



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#52 Barty

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 10:41

 

12. Every driver who competes in a race scores points

 

By the way, shouldn't this one be "Every driver who finishes (i.e. is classified) in a race scores points."?



#53 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 11:08

For me, competing means taking part in a race weekend as a driver for the race.



#54 Anderis

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 11:21

I think there is a misunderstanding here. I understand the prediction as "every driver who enters an F1 weekend as a race driver this year will score at least one point at some point of the season" but it looks like Barty might have understood it means there will be a race in which every finisher scores points (which means no more than 10 drivers at the finish)?



#55 Barty

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 12:15

 but it looks like Barty might have understood it means there will be a race in which every finisher scores points (which means no more than 10 drivers at the finish)?

 

That is exactly what I meant.



#56 Barty

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 12:16

If that was what was meant then it should have been formulated like this.

 

 I understand the prediction as "every driver who enters an F1 weekend as a race driver this year will score at least one point at some point of the season".



#57 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 12:18

Better ask for a clarification before the deadline next time. :p



#58 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 17:28

Ok, here's an offer to all the players. If any prediction you selected is unclear to you now, then please explain in this thread how you interpreted it. If your interpretation makes sense and differs from my interpretation, then I might add this new interpretation to the list if everybody is OK with that. Players who went for the original interpretation can then opt to switch to the alternative one.

What do you think about that?

#59 Anderis

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 19:22

I'm OK with that. I doubt anyone will be sneaky enough to exploit it.

But let's make a deadline before the start of the next race weekend. The later in the season, the easier it will be to determine which interpretation is more likely to give more points and exploit it.



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#60 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 20:34

Yep, limiting the chance to "change" your prediction will only be available until the start of FP1 in Bahrain.

So here are the predictions that might have some room for different interpretations. Below every prediction I explain how i intend to judge it.

 

6. Only 4 race winners

I intend to judge it as a maximum number, so 1,2,3 or 4 race winners would make #6 true.

 

7. A driver wins his first F1 race

It doesn't have to be the first ever race when a driver takes his first win. A win for Leclerc or Gasly would turn #7 true.

 

10. Raikkonen finishes a race ahead of both Ferraris

All three drivers need to be classified according to the official FIA result

 

12. Every driver who competes in a race scores points

All drivers who take part as race drivers in a GP weekend will score at least one point during the season.

 

17. Williams will not get out of Q1 until the 7th race of the season (Canada)

Williams will not reach Q2 or Q3 for the first seven races

 

32. Singapore will be a safety car free race

No actual safety car, no virtual safety car

 

All the other predictions seem a 100% clear to me.


Edited by thegforcemaybewithyou, 17 March 2019 - 20:40.


#61 Bleu

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 20:59

IMO the grid view would be clearer if there was "-1" for predictions which have been confirmed as wrong, like Gasly getting podium before Verstappen.



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Posted 17 March 2019 - 21:25

I will not change my guess, and do not think anyone should, if we made a bad guess for not understanding the choice, then so be it. If majority think there is some sort of do-over then so be it, as I said I will not change mine regardless of the interpretation being the one I thought, or the one that it actually is.

 

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#63 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 21:39

IMO the grid view would be clearer if there was "-1" for predictions which have been confirmed as wrong, like Gasly getting podium before Verstappen.

 

Have added that to the spreadsheet, the predictions inquestion now turn red. Looks like they are ashamed of being exposed...

 

And I also do not plan to change anything for my predictions, it's simply an offer for those who might have misunderstood what was meant in the first place. We'll see if any player went with an unclear prediction.



#64 Makarias

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 23:58

17. Williams will not get out of Q1 until the 7th race of the season (Canada)

Williams will not reach Q2 or Q3 for the first seven races

My interpretation would be:

Williams will not reach Q2 or Q3 for the first six races, at the very least.



#65 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 18:56

My interpretation would be:

Williams will not reach Q2 or Q3 for the first six races, at the very least.

 

Yes, I wasn't sure if the 7th qualifying should be included or not. Only looking at the first six qualifying sessions makes the prediction a bit more likely to be true, but that's not a big change.



#66 Anderis

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 19:09

I share Makarias' interpretation on this one. Saying something will not happen until Canada means Canada is the place where the thing can happen for the first time.



#67 Bleu

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 15:24

A new winner was close but seems no question got final answer in Bahrain.



#68 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 16:21

When Vettel spun, I thought I had scored a point. Turns out the prediction specifies it has to happen during the opening lap.

By the way, what would be the interpretation of prediction #16 (McLaren will score a podium in the 1st half of the season)? Since there are 21 races this year, does it count if McLaren score a podium during the 11th race (i.e. Germany)? The question is academic, since nobody chose that prediction.

#69 Anderis

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 16:58

I don't think 11th out of 21 is first half. 11 is more than 50% of 21.


Edited by Anderis, 01 April 2019 - 16:58.


#70 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 20:08

My interpretation would be:
Williams will not reach Q2 or Q3 for the first six races, at the very least.

 

Prediction 17. Williams will not get out of Q1 until the 7th race of the season (Canada) will be judged as Makarias described it, over the first six races. 
 

When Vettel spun, I thought I had scored a point. Turns out the prediction specifies it has to happen during the opening lap.

By the way, what would be the interpretation of prediction #16 (McLaren will score a podium in the 1st half of the season)? Since there are 21 races this year, does it count if McLaren score a podium during the 11th race (i.e. Germany)? The question is academic, since nobody chose that prediction.

 


Don't worry, he and Leclerc touched in Australia and came close during the Bahrain T1 2 section. It'll happen sooner or later. For the second part, I'd agree with Anderis, half the season would be 10 and a half races, so the 11th race finishes after the season half time.



#71 Barty

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 06:05

Number 49 can be marked as false already. Bottas won't be ahead of Hamilton after France since he is more than 26 points behind now.

Number 17 can be marked as true, as WIlliams have yet to get out of Q1.


Edited by Barty, 11 June 2019 - 06:11.


#72 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 15:01

Thanks for the hints, I'm taking notes in the background.

 

In Monaco, #46 almost came true after Hamilton and Verstappen tangled into the chicane.

 

Today, Lewis almost achieved the Grand Slam (#39), Vettel didn't want it to happen...



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Posted 23 June 2019 - 18:39


Today, Lewis almost achieved the Grand Slam (#39), Vettel didn't want it to happen...

 

No, Bottas was fastest in FP2, FP3, Q1 and Q2, so it wasn't even close.


Edited by Barty, 23 June 2019 - 18:41.


#74 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 18:49

No, Bottas was fastest in FP2, FP3, Q1 and Q2, so it wasn't even close.

 

So, Crofty lied to me during the broadcast. I won't make that mistake again and ignore him from now on.



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Posted 23 June 2019 - 21:12

No, Bottas was fastest in FP2, FP3, Q1 and Q2, so it wasn't even close.

Isn't pole+win+fastest lap+leading every single lap during the race enough for a Grand Slam?

I really think it is.



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Posted 23 June 2019 - 21:15

So, Crofty lied to me during the broadcast. I won't make that mistake again and ignore him from now on.

He didnt, because commonly a Grand Slam in F1 is pole+win+fastest lap+lea all race

But the suggestion in this bingo game specifies all practice and quali sessions, so it doesnt really matter.



#77 Anderis

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 21:26

Ahh, that's right. Gland Slam is a Grand Slam but #39 was about more than just Grand Slam.



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Posted 23 June 2019 - 21:29

Ahh, that's right. Gland Slam is a Grand Slam but #39 was about more than just Grand Slam.

 

Think pole, fastest lap and lead all laps is 'Grand Chelem', not Grand Slam, but may be the same.

 

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#79 Anderis

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 21:31

I think it might be the same because in my language it's pronounced as something between "chelem" and "slam". :p



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#80 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 18:54

Sorry for the confusion, I'll definitely not rely on Crofty for the final judgement!   ;)



#81 f1paul

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 19:42

He didnt, because commonly a Grand Slam in F1 is pole+win+fastest lap+lea all race

But the suggestion in this bingo game specifies all practice and quali sessions, so it doesnt really matter.

Yeah, I came up with #39. It's a good thing I specified.

 

I thought the Grand Slam/Chelem was to top EVERY session, lead every lap, fastest lap.



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Posted 24 June 2019 - 19:53

Maybe call it Mega Chelem next time  :p



#83 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 19:52

Prediction 16. Mclaren will score a podium in the 1st half of the season is now false after the British GP. Only Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull drivers managed to make it on the podium in the first 10 races.

 

In the spreadsheet https://docs.google....m8A0D2-2wHc5og/ I've also entered those predictions as true or false that seem to be pretty certain to judge at this moment. If it would end like that, SpaceHorseParty and Brawn BGP 001 would fight for the win.



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 22:14

8. Rich Energy, ROKiT or Sport Pesa logos are removed (the cars to appear for at least one full race weekend without them)

 

This one looks like it's getting pretty close...

 

I thought the other two were more likely than Rich Energy when I first suggested that one, though!



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Posted 28 July 2019 - 16:54

Regarding #1: does it count if Kvyat is promoted (i.e. he has to be replaced at Toro Rosso)? :p

Regarding #43: how many full SCs have there been so far? I count eight: one each in Bahrain, Spain, Monaco, Great Britain, and four in Germany.


Edited by SpaceHorseParty, 28 July 2019 - 17:00.


#86 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 18:51

Kvyat really has to be replaced either by being kicked out of F1 or moved to a slower team than Toro Rosso. For the Safety Cars I have counted eight, too. Nine if the pre race SC would be included, but let's leave it at those that appear during the actual race.

 

BTW, Williams has scored a point after the penalties for the Alfas, making #30 wrong. And #22 almost got true, but the late charge of Vettel to the podium got in the way of a 90s podium.



#87 Bleu

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Posted 01 September 2019 - 15:29

New winner now.



#88 M2000-5

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 15:34

#8 is true, Rich Energy and Haas have parted ways. Took them some time though...

Edited by M2000-5, 09 September 2019 - 15:36.