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Ted Kravitz Fired? [Update: Ted Kravitz not fired]


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#351 SonGoku

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 19:21

Chandhok is that nerd that knows it all and it's not like the guy has driven for top teams and knows how it is to be involved in a championship battle. Ted neither, but he was very informed and shared the right information during the broadcast, countless times they asked Ted for some information about stops/strategies/problems and you miss that right now.



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Posted 23 March 2019 - 20:03

No sign of a Qualifying Notebook on the EPG.

#353 pdac

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 20:15

How is that Liberty decided to axe Kravitz from Sky?  That was Sky's call.  If anything it's because F1 put Kravitz in another show that people will have more of him.  I'd agree the midweek show is pretty clunky but it has potential.

 

It's just the old "any thing that's wrong with F1 right now must be down to Liberty" mentality.



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Posted 23 March 2019 - 23:12

How is that Liberty decided to axe Kravitz from Sky?  That was Sky's call.  If anything it's because F1 put Kravitz in another show that people will have more of him.  I'd agree the midweek show is pretty clunky but it has potential.

 
 

It's just the old "any thing that's wrong with F1 right now must be down to Liberty" mentality.


Though, that's not what he said.

Sky have removed him, while Liberty have turned him in to an awkward presenter.
So between them, Sky and Liberty have managed this.

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 02:52

 
Though, that's not what he said.

Sky have removed him, while Liberty have turned him in to an awkward presenter.
So between them, Sky and Liberty have managed this.

The way it was written was that there was no Notebook and Liberty had a hand in it.

 

So between them, Liberty and Sky have managed to remove the only actual decent part of Sky's broadcast

 

 

The implication being Liberty "removed", his words, Kravitz from Sky thus killing the Notebook and further implying they conspired to do it.  The Notebook was dead when Kravitz got fired.  Liberty putting him on another show is irrelevant to the Notebook getting cancelled.  As a TV personality Kravitz was awkward well before he was hired by FOM.



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Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:35

The way it was written was that there was no Notebook and Liberty had a hand in it.
 
 
The implication being Liberty "removed", his words, Kravitz from Sky thus killing the Notebook and further implying they conspired to do it.  The Notebook was dead when Kravitz got fired.  Liberty putting him on another show is irrelevant to the Notebook getting cancelled.  As a TV personality Kravitz was awkward well before he was hired by FOM.


Of course, when you cut off quotes you can get different meanings. I am sure you know the immediate word following your cut-off point was "and". Which in this situation would be a key word.

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:44

The way it was written was that there was no Notebook and Liberty had a hand in it.

 

 

The implication being Liberty "removed", his words, Kravitz from Sky thus killing the Notebook and further implying they conspired to do it.  The Notebook was dead when Kravitz got fired.  Liberty putting him on another show is irrelevant to the Notebook getting cancelled.  As a TV personality Kravitz was awkward well before he was hired by FOM.

Not what I said and not what I meant. I can only defend what I did say, not what I didn't say. 

Ted is a slightly awkward presenter, which is why his role as a roving reporter worked quite well, and obviously as a presenter of a half an hour sit down format would just not work at all. We could have seen that a mile off. The Welsh guy who did C4's anchoring, could do that well, but Ted.. .Leave him where he was, it doesn't matter if he works for Liberty or Sky, get him in the garages during difficult moments and get him asking questions. 


Edited by Tsarwash, 24 March 2019 - 14:19.


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Posted 24 March 2019 - 13:57

Watching a repeat of the midweek debrief.

It’s Ted-lite really isn’t it.

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 11:13

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 11:35

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 13:27

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 17:07

Of course, when you cut off quotes you can get different meanings. I am sure you know the immediate word following your cut-off point was "and". Which in this situation would be a key word.

 

 

Not what I said and not what I meant. I can only defend what I did say, not what I didn't say. 

Ted is a slightly awkward presenter, which is why his role as a roving reporter worked quite well, and obviously as a presenter of a half an hour sit down format would just not work at all. We could have seen that a mile off. The Welsh guy who did C4's anchoring, could do that well, but Ted.. .Leave him where he was, it doesn't matter if he works for Liberty or Sky, get him in the garages during difficult moments and get him asking questions. 

 

 

I take you at your word it's not what you meant.  You get slack cut if you aren't a native English speaker.  English is difficult enough to write for native speakers.  For example their, there and they're.  It may not have been what you meant but grammatically it's what you typed.  Here's why...

 

The word "removed" is the verb referring to a subject.  In this case the subject is "Liberty and Sky" which has the verb "removed" applied to both parties.  In terms of grammar construction you've included both parties in removing Kravitz from his Sky deal.  The word "and" is a conjunction and joins the two parts of the sentence.  Using a conjunction has no impact on the relationship between the subject and verb in the first part of the sentence.

 

Here's what I see is the most likely version of what happened.  I may not be right but it's what my spidey senses tell me.

 

Kravitz get the boot.

Kravitz then gets FOM gig.

Big uproar from fans toward Sky.

Sky decides let's bring him back in a limited fashion.

Kravitz still keeps gig making hostage videos with Smedley in addition to 13 Sky gigs.



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Posted 31 March 2019 - 10:31

I watched Sky's Bahrain qualifying shows live yesterday and CH4's recorded version later, if anything I preferred CH4's show, there were fewer mistakes and cockups and more technical info, in fact I do not remember any technical details at all in any of Sky's output !

 

Without Ted it seems Sky are no longer able, or interested in, giving us fans the technical details we desire.

 

If Ted is not going to do his Notebook I fear the worst and dread Sky putting him in a studio setting. As many others have said we need Ted in the Pit Lane and wandering aimlessly around all the bits we would never otherwise get to see.

 

Here is a thought... Did Scott Young try to get rid of Ted because he was becoming too popular, too big a personality and completely out shadowed his fellow presenters ???   :stoned:



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Posted 31 March 2019 - 10:49

I take you at your word it's not what you meant.  You get slack cut if you aren't a native English speaker.  English is difficult enough to write for native speakers.  For example their, there and they're.  It may not have been what you meant but grammatically it's what you typed.  Here's why...

 

The word "removed" is the verb referring to a subject.  In this case the subject is "Liberty and Sky" which has the verb "removed" applied to both parties.  In terms of grammar construction you've included both parties in removing Kravitz from his Sky deal.  The word "and" is a conjunction and joins the two parts of the sentence.  Using a conjunction has no impact on the relationship between the subject and verb in the first part of the sentence.

 

Here's what I see is the most likely version of what happened.  I may not be right but it's what my spidey senses tell me.

 

Kravitz get the boot.

Kravitz then gets FOM gig.

Big uproar from fans toward Sky.

Sky decides let's bring him back in a limited fashion.

Kravitz still keeps gig making hostage videos with Smedley in addition to 13 Sky gigs.

 

Swap points 3 and 4 and that's the right order.



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Posted 31 March 2019 - 11:32

I take you at your word it's not what you meant.  You get slack cut if you aren't a native English speaker.  English is difficult enough to write for native speakers.  For example their, there and they're. 

To be honest, being a non-native myself, I find it's usually Americans of all ages who are struggling with those three. I'll throw in some were and we're, it's and its, your and you're. Also, they tend to be monoglot apart from a few Spanish restaurant words.
Butchering those simple words is more the product of a lackluster linguistic culture than the native vs non-native discriminator, in my humble opinion. 


Edited by ElectricBoogie, 12 April 2019 - 12:02.


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Posted 31 March 2019 - 11:34

Eddie was annoying, good riddance to him and his silly sandles.



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Posted 31 March 2019 - 11:38

Nice to see that in this horrid age of pay TV, viewer's outrage actually matters. It's not just advertisers calling the shots.
Quite awkward all, I can imagine.
Might Ted be on his way to Murray Walker levels of fame? 
Perhaps, if it's indeed his style appealing so much to viewers around the world (I'm no Brit), there might be a future for him with a new broadcaster hitting the scene. Say, Amazon. They did the Grand Tour thing which in my opinion seems to work out well enough. A more Ted centric F1/broad racing coverage. Would you watch that over Sky given similar availability and cost? I just might, as long as he manages to keep the Ted dialed to medium or so.



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 17:08

Here's Ted today, back in action for Sky:

 

https://streamable.com/3t78t



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 23:57

Sky's production this year is just off and actually kind of hard to watch for the most part, yet I liked it the last few years.  Ted is a big part as a lot little things are missing, so are the rest of them not sitting right with only Johnny still his normal self.  Everyone else seems super stiff and "held" back from their own personalities... Damon is Damon but even he seems off this year.  Martin seems annoyed.  Paul's ok but with everyone just off, makes for a tough watch.

 

Ted would be definitely be a welcome addition.  I almost stopped watching now post race, zero interesting things other then Ant on the review slow mo stuff and comparisons.



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Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:22

Sky's production this year is just off and actually kind of hard to watch for the most part, yet I liked it the last few years.  Ted is a big part as a lot little things are missing, so are the rest of them not sitting right with only Johnny still his normal self.  Everyone else seems super stiff and "held" back from their own personalities... Damon is Damon but even he seems off this year.  Martin seems annoyed.  Paul's ok but with everyone just off, makes for a tough watch.

 

Ted would be definitely be a welcome addition.  I almost stopped watching now post race, zero interesting things other then Ant on the review slow mo stuff and comparisons.

 

Without competition on coverage it'll only get more stale.  Right now it's watch the Quali/Race then catch the few good bits on Youtube etc later on.

 

Hopefully Ted is gonna be bang on form this weekend though.



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Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:42

Now that's my problem with Ted (watching FP1 for the Chinese GP right now).  He's just mentioned new Mercedes upgrades which have been on the car since Australia.


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Posted 12 April 2019 - 03:15

Yeah, on the technical side they've not been the info.. Seems odd.  I wonder who the peeved in the paddock cause they seem to be walking around like lost sheep.



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Posted 14 April 2019 - 12:38

Ted nailed that post race interview with Binotto.  Very professional, perfect leadup questioning to Charles team order call.   Chandhok simply too much a loof to every handle a situation like that in the manner that Ted.

 

Watching Ted during this weekend reminded how much better the broadcast is with his involvement.



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Posted 14 April 2019 - 12:41

Ted's notebook was class again, it's the little bits of information, but it's so good to know them.