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#1401 red stick

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 21:27

Marshall Pruett does all the championship math so you don't have to.

 

https://racer.com/20...d-to-do-to-win/



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#1402 Joseki

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 22:06

Winning without getting the extra point for leading at least a lap is a gonna be a feat harder than winning the Championship for Rossi/Pagenaud/Dixon :drunk:



#1403 jonpollak

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 23:10

Marshall Pruett does all the championship math so you don't have to.

https://racer.com/20...d-to-do-to-win/

Was trying to listen to the MP podcast with Miller but the guy keeps interrupting Robin just to hear the sound of his own voice.

I’m done with that guy.

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Edited by jonpollak, 16 September 2019 - 23:11.


#1404 red stick

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 23:42

The podcast wasn't particularly newsy, apart from continuing scepticism about Hinchcliffe staying with SPM.

#1405 teejay

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 00:53

Saw a youtube video from "retro rebel" speaking to Zanardi and asking if he wants to do the 500.. he simply said yes. 

 

How do we make that happen? it has to happen. 

 

Surely BMW have the pennies to back an entry though it would be hard to run as BMW with a honda/chev powered car. 



#1406 jonpollak

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 03:59

Who’s got Laguna ?
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#1407 king_crud

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 05:09

Was trying to listen to the MP podcast with Miller but the guy keeps interrupting Robin just to hear the sound of his own voice.

I’m done with that guy.

Jp


Yeah i had to stop listening once i realised any interview Pruett does is 75% Pruett talking

#1408 paulb

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 11:33

Who’s got Laguna ?
Jp

 

Is there a more important question? I think not.



#1409 Peat

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 11:55

I believe it was bagsied by Frood pre-Portland. 



#1410 Frood

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 13:17

Will be up in the next couple of days. I was overly ambitious and ended up having to sort out real life stuff so it’ll be a bit reduced in scope unfortunately.

#1411 TheFish

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 13:25

What time is the race this weekend in the UK?



#1412 milestone 11

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 14:24

What time is the race this weekend in the UK?

Programme starts at 7.30pm.
Edit.
Looks like green flag at 8.15pm based upon web info.

Edited by milestone 11, 17 September 2019 - 14:29.


#1413 Afterburner

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 15:10

Winning without getting the extra point for leading at least a lap is a gonna be a feat harder than winning the Championship for Rossi/Pagenaud/Dixon :drunk:

I feel like this is something which Codemasters could make possible.

#1414 Atreiu

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 15:13

I'd like Rossi to win the title, but I feel I might jinx him.

 

So I'll be happy with a good enough race and fair fights.



#1415 Frood

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 15:14

Saw a youtube video from "retro rebel" speaking to Zanardi and asking if he wants to do the 500.. he simply said yes.

How do we make that happen? it has to happen.

Surely BMW have the pennies to back an entry though it would be hard to run as BMW with a honda/chev powered car.


If there was any chance I would put my pennies in. And I would, without a shadow of a doubt, be at Indy. The guy is my hero.

#1416 prommer

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 20:01

 

So I'll be happy with a good enough race and fair fights.

 

I'll settle for a couple passes, honestly.  I'm setting my expectations low and hoping that the race will miraculously exceed them.

 

 

 

Have we ever seen Sato in the corkscrew?  :eek:



#1417 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 02:20

I really don't want to see Zanardi in the Indy 500.  Let's be real, Indy is a high level sporting event, not a reality show with inspirational stories.  Now in his fifties and with a serious handicap, looking like Kubica would be the best case scenario.



#1418 jonpollak

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 03:22

Kubica...?
He couldn’t carry Sandro’s lunch box.
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#1419 PayasYouRace

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 06:54

I really don't want to see Zanardi in the Indy 500. Let's be real, Indy is a high level sporting event, not a reality show with inspirational stories. Now in his fifties and with a serious handicap, looking like Kubica would be the best case scenario.


Even if he was competitive and earned a spot on the grid through pace?

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#1420 Muppetmad

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 06:57

Zanardi and Kubica both suffered disabling injuries, but they're apples and oranges. There's a great deal to admire about both.



#1421 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 10:21

I really don't want to see Zanardi in the Indy 500. Let's be real, Indy is a high level sporting event, not a reality show with inspirational stories. Now in his fifties and with a serious handicap, looking like Kubica would be the best case scenario.


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#1422 Joseki

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 11:42

Cars with no powersteering are pretty challenging for Kubica, as he's physically very weak with his right arm.

 

I cannot see him handle an IndyCar at Detroit for example.



#1423 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 12:53

Zanardi's upper body is fine though, if there's anywhere he could be competitive(or has the best chance to be competitive) it'd be an oval. 

 

But yeah it would make things look....it wouldn't help the image of racing not being athletic. 



#1424 maximilian

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 13:16

I dare say there are very few drivers, if any, who are more athletic than Zanardi - the man has won multiple hand bike championships/Paralympic Gold Medals, and is a triathlete and a beast.  I wouldn't bet against him taking on any of the current driver crop in an arm wrestling match!

 

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#1425 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 13:23

Even if he was competitive and earned a spot on the grid through pace?

The point is that he won't be competitive.  He's been out of the sport for 18 years, and even 18 years ago he wasn't exactly on form.  If he were competitive in 2020, even with both legs intact, it would be an indictment on Indycar's legitimacy as a sport, to be honest.  It's not just the age, it's the period of absence as well.



#1426 jonpollak

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 15:51

When does that Autosport Indycar Forums RV park up ?
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#1427 loki

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 16:09

We’ll get there tomorrow night to be ready for Fri.    I haven’t been to the track in 15 years or so.  Don’t know what the mobile coverage is out there so I’m hoping it’s enough LTE for pics.  It’s the entire Road to Indy ladder plus MX5 Cup and Porsche GT.



#1428 PayasYouRace

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 16:17

The point is that he won't be competitive. He's been out of the sport for 18 years, and even 18 years ago he wasn't exactly on form. If he were competitive in 2020, even with both legs intact, it would be an indictment on Indycar's legitimacy as a sport, to be honest. It's not just the age, it's the period of absence as well.


We don’t know if he’d be competitive or not. If he isn’t, then he won’t qualify for the race, and your perception of the sport’s legitimacy would remain intact. If he was fast enough then again it wouldn’t say anything about Indycar’s legitimacy, as drivers of his age have qualified for the race and been very fast even in relatively modern times.

#1429 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 16:44

The point is that he won't be competitive. He's been out of the sport for 18 years, and even 18 years ago he wasn't exactly on form. If he were competitive in 2020, even with both legs intact, it would be an indictment on Indycar's legitimacy as a sport, to be honest. It's not just the age, it's the period of absence as well.


I do not think AJ Foyt was ever an indictment on Indycar's legitimacy as a sport. Not to mention Mario. Or Big Al

You do not know what Indy means.

#1430 proviz

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 17:28

The point is that he won't be competitive.  He's been out of the sport for 18 years, and even 18 years ago he wasn't exactly on form.  If he were competitive in 2020, even with both legs intact, it would be an indictment on Indycar's legitimacy as a sport, to be honest.  It's not just the age, it's the period of absence as well.

 

Spot on, absolutely!



#1431 maximilian

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 18:55

Anybody who qualifies for the Indy 500 deserves to be there  :up:



#1432 PiperPa42

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 19:23

We’ll get there tomorrow night to be ready for Fri. I haven’t been to the track in 15 years or so. Don’t know what the mobile coverage is out there so I’m hoping it’s enough LTE for pics. It’s the entire Road to Indy ladder plus MX5 Cup and Porsche GT.

I found the coverage quite spotty in 2016 for the Road to Indy finale, that was on AT&T I believe.

#1433 jonpollak

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 19:40

You’d think Verizon would have full bars of boom boom at the track.

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#1434 loki

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 20:53

There are two T-Mobile towers just outside the track according to cellmapper.net both with LTE. :up:  The terrain is pretty hilly and according to the responses that have been there (cellmapper has an app that pings the mothership with your strength, etc) the campground we’re in is pretty good but as you get down into the bowl the coverage is less than desirable.  Verizon is worse, the nearest tower looks to be a mile or so from the track.    Sprint and AT&T fare a bit better than Verizon but it’s still lacking.  What JP was saying about Verizon should be true even if they have to bring portable towers.  I can’t see them having a cell desert at a race they sponsor.   That would be like having Johnsonville sponsor RA and not having brats at the track.

 

It will be hammer down tomorrow after we get the RV.  Pickup is pushed back to 1:45 (13:45 in new money) so we’ll be lucky to make the midnight gate closing.  If so I’ll just park at the entrance or at the Walmart in Salinas and boogie in for 7am gate.  Because, well, RV.  We’ve got until 10:30  Fri morning for the first session and when I’m at the track I DO NOT MISS AN ICS SESSION.  I used to even do morning warm up on Sun but thankfully they’ve made that into Fri pit stop practice.



#1435 Frood

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 21:11

Seca thread incoming!



#1436 PayasYouRace

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 05:46

Seca thread incoming!


Hopefully it’s dry in name but not in content.

#1437 Radoye

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Posted 22 September 2019 - 21:46

IndyCar F1-style points championship, final standings:
 
Newgarden 216
Rossi 192
Dixon 191
Pagenaud 164.5
Power 141
Hunter-Reay 96
Rosenqvist 94

Sato 91
Herta 84

Rahal 74

Hinchcliffe 51
Bourdais 49
Ferrucci 40
Pigot 35
Carpenter 30
Ericsson 30
Kanaan 20
Leist 20
Andretti 19
Harvey 18
Veach 14
Daly 9
Jones 8
O'Ward 5
Kimball 1.5
Chilton 0
Davison 0
Castroneves 0
Hanley 0
Mann 0
Kaiser 0
Karam 0
Hildebrand 0
Servia 0
King 0
Alonso 0

 

 

There was no drama here since JoNew already secured the title, but the fight for the 2nd turned out to be very interesting with Rossi barely edging out Dixon. This brings another fun season to a close, now we have to survive the long wait until St. Pete next year...



#1438 M66R

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 14:30

So what races if any are forumers hoping to attend in 2020?

#1439 red stick

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 14:42

There are rumors about Richmond.  I should really get on that.

 

Also, a reminder that the Amelia Island Concours in March will be honoring the cars and career of Roger Penske.



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#1440 PiperPa42

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 14:47

So what races if any are forumers hoping to attend in 2020?

I was considering going to Road America or Iowa, but with the Richmond announcement and the Red Stick Civil War tour being announced that has definitely become a strong candidate.


Edited by PiperPa42, 23 September 2019 - 14:47.


#1441 red stick

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 14:59

I was considering going to Road America or Iowa, but with the Richmond announcement and the Red Stick Civil War tour being announced that has definitely become a strong candidate.

 

Have you been to the Richmond area?  I've largely seen the sites to the north and east of Richmond (North Anna, Stuart Memorial, Cold Harbor, Gaines Mill, Malvern Hill, ), not so much the south and west (Petersburg, The Crater, Pamplin Park, Sayler's Creek, other Lee's Retreat sites).  At some point we'll have to gauge folk's interest in what to include.


Edited by red stick, 23 September 2019 - 14:59.


#1442 PiperPa42

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 17:58

Have you been to the Richmond area?  I've largely seen the sites to the north and east of Richmond (North Anna, Stuart Memorial, Cold Harbor, Gaines Mill, Malvern Hill, ), not so much the south and west (Petersburg, The Crater, Pamplin Park, Sayler's Creek, other Lee's Retreat sites).  At some point we'll have to gauge folk's interest in what to include.

No, closest I've been is JFK, second closest would be Mt. Pleasant, SC  :cat: I do like history though, and the American civil war isn't that well covered on schools in Denmark, besides the North/south and slave issue.

 

I'd like to go if there's interest. Loved the Indy 500 with JP and DJparky + the Rolex24 with PaulB. It's nice to meet the people on here in real life. 



#1443 king_crud

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 18:36

So what races if any are forumers hoping to attend in 2020?


I'm hoping to attend all of them, but as i live in London and have a wife and two children under the age of four I'd say my chances of going to any of them is unlikely

#1444 maximilian

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 18:45

IndyCar F1-style points championship, final standings:
 
Newgarden 216
Rossi 192
Dixon 191
Pagenaud 164.5
Power 141
Hunter-Reay 96
Rosenqvist 94

Sato 91
Herta 84

Rahal 74

Hinchcliffe 51
Bourdais 49
Ferrucci 40
Pigot 35
Carpenter 30
Ericsson 30
Kanaan 20
Leist 20
Andretti 19
Harvey 18
Veach 14
Daly 9
Jones 8
O'Ward 5
Kimball 1.5
Chilton 0
Davison 0
Castroneves 0
Hanley 0
Mann 0
Kaiser 0
Karam 0
Hildebrand 0
Servia 0
King 0
Alonso 0

 

 

There was no drama here since JoNew already secured the title, but the fight for the 2nd turned out to be very interesting with Rossi barely edging out Dixon. This brings another fun season to a close, now we have to survive the long wait until St. Pete next year...

 

Glad that the "right" guy won the championship after all.  Pagenaud would only have been champ due to double point shenanigans at Indy and Laguna Seca, and I can't help that it would have left a slightly froggy taste in my mouth...



#1445 djparky

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 18:54

So what races if any are forumers hoping to attend in 2020?


Hoping to go to Indy 500 again and St Pete ( plus some winter sun). If not Indy 500 then may be Laguna Seca

#1446 paulb

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 19:42

So what races if any are forumers hoping to attend in 2020?

 

Definitely Richmond. Maybe St. Petersburg too, since it is within driving distance.



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Posted 23 September 2019 - 19:56

I'm hoping to attend all of them, but as i live in London and have a wife and two children under the age of four I'd say my chances of going to any of them is unlikely


Are any of them internet personalities who could fit in the two-seater? Sing a passable national anthem?

#1448 red stick

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 20:12

Are any of them internet personalities who could fit in the two-seater? Sing a passable national anthem?

 

Do they have to be internet personalities?  Couldn't we just label them "influencers" and cross our fingers?



#1449 jonpollak

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 20:17

So what races if any are forumers hoping to attend in 2020?

Like PiperPa42 I’m looking at Road America, Richmond and ...
If anyone from here wants to do the 500...
I’d be glad to host y’all.
(Piper: I preliminarily reserved with Rosey and Juan again for next year )

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 23 September 2019 - 20:18.


#1450 markpenske

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Posted 23 September 2019 - 22:55

So what races if any are forumers hoping to attend in 2020?

I'll be attending the Mid Ohio event. I was hoping my home track (Watkins Glen) would have returned to the schedule.