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2019 Red Bull: Max Verstappen and friends vs the world. Oh, and there was Gasly too before Albon took over


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#4101 A3

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:13

I think it's the only racecar he's driven which has a manual gearbox. Curious to see a video. :)

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#4102 JeePee

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:45

I think it's the only racecar he's driven which has a manual gearbox. Curious to see a video. :)

The Formula Abarth they used at the Ferrari Winter Academy in 2014 had a manual gearbox. Video.



#4103 A3

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:19

The Formula Abarth they used at the Ferrari Winter Academy in 2014 had a manual gearbox. Video.


That car had a sequential gearbox, not the same. Clutch would probably only be needed for a standing start.

#4104 Danyy

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:23

Max driving the 1965 Honda RA272

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Wow great pic

#4105 Ivanhoe

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Posted 10 October 2019 - 16:32

Big BBC interview with Max, a good read and with some quotes which will certainly lead to discussion on this thread.

https://www.bbc.com/...rmula1/49988237

#4106 Casey

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Posted 10 October 2019 - 19:27

I think it's the only racecar he's driven which has a manual gearbox. Curious to see a video. :)


Edited by Casey, 10 October 2019 - 19:28.


#4107 JimmyTheFox

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 09:47

Max's FP2 lap

 

https://streamable.com/b100i

 

Never noticed those little exhaust bangs before when off throttle :smoking:



#4108 Henri Greuter

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 09:59

I doubt it was designed with Dutch length in mind.  ;) The roll bar is his helmet.


To speak with a Marianne Thieme view on matters: Effects of the Bioindustry on the Dutch population shown....

#4109 Ivanhoe

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 10:07

Tanabe said they ran the engine full power in FP2.

#4110 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 10:40

Max's FP2 lap

 

https://streamable.com/b100i

 

Never noticed those little exhaust bangs before when off throttle :smoking:

 

Sweeeeeeeet  :love:



#4111 A3

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 13:34

Max's FP2 lap
 
https://streamable.com/b100i
 
Never noticed those little exhaust bangs before when off throttle :smoking:


Man, how fast these cars take the corners. Amazing.

#4112 A3

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 20:57

The practice start didn't go that well...

https://streamable.com/tvc4q

#4113 Nemo1965

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 21:15

Max's FP2 lap

https://streamable.com/b100i

Never noticed those little exhaust bangs before when off throttle :smoking:


Wow. The engine sounds much better than I thought. Modest but throaty!

#4114 Heyli

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 21:28

Tanabe said they ran the engine full power in FP2.

That´s not really good news though is it?

 

otoh. I would expect Merc and Ferrari to do the same, considering the fact that it could count as qualifying?



#4115 Anuity

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 21:32

The engine indeed sounds quite nice.

#4116 Heyli

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 21:34

Big BBC interview with Max, a good read and with some quotes which will certainly lead to discussion on this thread.

https://www.bbc.com/...rmula1/49988237

Lovely interview. I actually think he did pretty well putting his previous comments into context.

 

But I am probably biased... :)



#4117 A3

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Posted 12 October 2019 - 06:54

Wow. The engine sounds much better than I thought. Modest but throaty!


To be honest, I think they just relocated the microphone.

#4118 beachdrifter

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:20

Another Verstappen myth just got busted. 



#4119 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:20

Disappointing qualifying performance from Max especially. Would be interesting to hear what the problem was. Kudos to Albon for matching Max’ time.

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#4120 Growing

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:29

I think I heard max on the radio saying they changed his setup completely and he wished they had did it before

#4121 Danyy

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:30

Albon is starting to push Max, he’s done what Gasly couldn’t. This is ultimately what Max and Red Bull needs, a team mate to get the best out of him and the car.

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:32

Too conservative according to Max, whatever that means

#4123 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:35

I think I heard max on the radio saying they changed his setup completely and he wished they had did it before


That’s what it sounded like on his Ziggo interview. To be brutally honest, he was quite cocky on Friday about not needing FP3 and how the good drivers are at an advantage with less preparation time, so he can maybe reflect on that honestly. He sounded well frustrated. Think they’re carrying too much downforce.

#4124 Danyy

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:38

That’s what it sounded like on his Ziggo interview. To be brutally honest, he was quite cocky on Friday about not needing FP3 and how the good drivers are at an advantage with less preparation time, so he can maybe reflect on that honestly. He sounded well frustrated. Think they’re carrying too much downforce.


I wonder if Albon is carrying slightly less and his setup was better?

#4125 Growing

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:40

That’s what it sounded like on his Ziggo interview. To be brutally honest, he was quite cocky on Friday about not needing FP3 and how the good drivers are at an advantage with less preparation time, so he can maybe reflect on that honestly. He sounded well frustrated. Think they’re carrying too much downforce.


I heard the radio from de official app. Did max say that the final setup was too conservative?

#4126 SonGoku

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:44

Is this engine power or just a bad car?

#4127 Marklar

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 03:55

Apparently the engine issue was only in Q2.

Horner said that Verstappen left two tenths on the table though.



#4128 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:32

I heard the radio from de official app. Did max say that the final setup was too conservative?

 

It wasn't entirely clear what he was referring to, seemed more in general and maybe specifically setup and possibly power unit as well. Whatever it was, he didn't sound happy and didn't indicate he had made driver errors himself which he normally isn't shy of if he feels at fault himself.



#4129 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:47

Max now saying they found he was down on power during qualy in his pre race interview



#4130 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:48

Closer than Gasly could ever dream of getting to Max and on a track as challenging as Suzuka is quite something.

#4131 goldenboy

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:54

Another Verstappen myth just got busted.

What are you on about?

#4132 Kao18

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 05:07

Apparently the engine issue was only in Q2.

Horner said that Verstappen left two tenths on the table though.


Might be a reference to his 'two tenths' faster comments. Horner isnt shy of cheeky remarks like that, remember his left foot comment in Silverstone qualy once I think it was when Max spun.

Anyway so so qualifying from Max and pretty good one from Albon.

Lets see what the race brings, not to optimistic but hopefully Max can compete for a podium still.

#4133 Requiem84

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 05:07

What are you on about?


Just his usual anti Verstappen agenda. No need to respond.

#4134 Arundo

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 07:01

Ah well what can you say, after the summer it just does not fall the right way for Max and Redbull. 
2020 cant come soon enough. 



#4135 Lights

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 07:05

First good start from Max the whole year, and it ends like this. Such a shame.

Albon did ok for the rest but his start clearly wasn't as good and his move on Norris was very questionable.

#4136 SenorSjon

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 08:09

Albon is an unlucky charm for Verstappen. He can't catch a break since the summer.

#4137 Heyli

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 08:11

Albon is an unlucky charm for Verstappen. He can't catch a break since the summer.

Bring back Gasly! :D



#4138 johnwilliamdavies

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 08:27

Albon is an unlucky charm for Verstappen. He can't catch a break since the summer.

 

Alex extended his post-Spa points lead over Max today to 48 vs 31. 



#4139 gillesfan76

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 09:30

Max got a great start, tried a ballsy move around the outside and unfortunately for him it turned out how those attempts often turn out. He had plenty of room on the outside but he made sure to keep a very tight line to minimise any chance for Charles to come back through the corner. It makes sense what he did, in terms of giving himself the best chance of making the overtake stick, but it also significantly increases the risk of contact.

I’m sure after reviewing the footage, Max won’t feel overly upset at Charles. While Max was definitely slightly ahead at the time of contact, his line was very tight and Charles was not going to easily concede and misjudged it. Max of all people would understand and even further, I think he will appreciate Charles. After all, Max did say:

“I don’t want to sound arrogant or disrespectful to others,” Verstappen said in an interview with BBC Sport. “I’m very determined to win and I would not give up.

“If I have to go over I’ll go over; if I have to go under, I’ll go under. In that kind of way.”

“Like overtaking,” he added. “If I have to touch, I’ll touch. It’s not like it always needs to be in the cleanest way.

But a hard fight, having a bit of a touch, but of course out-braking, being on the edge is OK”

Charles fought hard, was on the edge, and when one is on the edge errors occur. Max understands.

Edited by gillesfan76, 13 October 2019 - 09:32.


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#4140 Heyli

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 09:34

Max got a great start, tried a ballsy move around the outside and unfortunately for him it turned out how those attempts often turn out. He had plenty of room on the outside but he made sure to keep a very tight line to minimise any chance for Charles to come back through the corner. It makes sense what he did, in terms of giving himself the best chance of making the overtake stick, but it also significantly increases the risk of contact.

I’m sure after reviewing the footage, Max won’t feel overly upset at Charles. While Max was definitely slightly ahead at the time of contact, his line was very tight and Charles was not going to easily concede and misjudged it. Max of all people would understand and even further, I think he will appreciate Charles. After all, Max did say:

Charles fought hard, was on the edge, and when one is on the edge errors occur. Max understands.

I dont agree that his line was very tight. Perez line when overtaking Gasly was very tight. Max left loads of room there on the inside.

 

Clearly Leclerc was over the edge, which is why it went wrong... :)



#4141 Wolbo

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 11:34

Bring back Gasly! :D

 

No, just fire Kvyat again, that always works..



#4142 Ivanhoe

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 11:50

Max got a great start, tried a ballsy move around the outside and unfortunately for him it turned out how those attempts often turn out. He had plenty of room on the outside but he made sure to keep a very tight line to minimise any chance for Charles to come back through the corner. It makes sense what he did, in terms of giving himself the best chance of making the overtake stick, but it also significantly increases the risk of contact.
I’m sure after reviewing the footage, Max won’t feel overly upset at Charles. While Max was definitely slightly ahead at the time of contact, his line was very tight and Charles was not going to easily concede and misjudged it. Max of all people would understand and even further, I think he will appreciate Charles. After all, Max did say:
Charles fought hard, was on the edge, and when one is on the edge errors occur. Max understands.

Leclerc did what you blamed Max for in the past, trying to make up for a bad start in the first corners. Moreover, Max is talking about a bit of contact, not crashing into the side, causing the car to spin and ruin the complete bargeboard and part of the floor. Had it been the other way around you would be the first one in here to call out for Max’ immature driving, saying he still has a lot to learn.

Edited by Ivanhoe, 13 October 2019 - 11:59.


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Posted 13 October 2019 - 11:56

Max got a great start, tried a ballsy move around the outside and unfortunately for him it turned out how those attempts often turn out. He had plenty of room on the outside but he made sure to keep a very tight line to minimise any chance for Charles to come back through the corner. It makes sense what he did, in terms of giving himself the best chance of making the overtake stick, but it also significantly increases the risk of contact.

I’m sure after reviewing the footage, Max won’t feel overly upset at Charles. While Max was definitely slightly ahead at the time of contact, his line was very tight and Charles was not going to easily concede and misjudged it. Max of all people would understand and even further, I think he will appreciate Charles. After all, Max did say:

Charles fought hard, was on the edge, and when one is on the edge errors occur. Max understands.


There is so much wrong with the above that I presume it is sarcasm.

#4144 Ivanhoe

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 11:59

There is so much wrong with the above that I presume it is sarcasm.


Wouldn’t bet on it.

#4145 Jbleroi

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 12:40

Wouldn’t bet on it.

delusional is de right word....

 

 

alex had a good race



#4146 Pits

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 12:42

Gutted for Max, I believe he could have gotten a podium today.

Alto the wind wasn't  in his favor, having te lower downforce set-up compared to others. 



#4147 gillesfan76

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 13:48

I’m sure that if Max was in a championship battle, he would have left Charles a lot more room.

#4148 Augurk

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 13:59

I’m sure that if Max was in a championship battle, he would have left Charles a lot more room.

He basically left him about 3 car widths of space.



#4149 Requiem84

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 14:07

I’m sure that if Max was in a championship battle, he would have left Charles a lot more room.


Same as Hamilton did in Silverstone 2018?

#4150 BuddyHolly

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 14:09

Disappointed for Max, can't put that one down to him.

Albon I thought had a solid race.