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2019 Renault F1: Ricciardo, Hulk and other Enstone goings-on


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#1 DILLIGAF

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 03:14

May as well get the 2019 Rnault thread started, The place to talk about the drivers, team members etc.

 

Personally, I think Dan and Hulk will be well matched early in the season but. that Ricciardo to win the battle over the course of the season. 



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#2 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 03:30

Good to have a dedicated Renault thread like this. Looking forward to the battle. Will take Dan time to get used the car but I agree he should have the edge over Hulk by the end of the season.


Edited by gowebber, 16 March 2019 - 03:39.


#3 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 03:40

Dan had horrible traffic there on that lap.



#4 Shakengandulf

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 03:44

Better run now for ric.

#5 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 03:46

Yep and we know they have at least mid 1:23's in them given FP2 times yesterday



#6 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:04

Well not sure what to make of that session. Haas ahead of Renault and RBR is a surprise. Hopefully we have more left up our sleeves. Sadly it looks like Merc and Ferrari with daylight between the rest of the field. Dan edges out Hulk for once.


Edited by gowebber, 16 March 2019 - 04:06.


#7 Alburaq

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:12

Why two threads?

Renault and RB respectively slower and as slow as yesterday.


Edited by Alburaq, 16 March 2019 - 04:14.


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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:13

I wouldn't judge anything until they are at a racetrack, too many variables in Melbourne to get an accurate read even after qualification, we may glean some information about cars which deal with very changeable track conditions well. 


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#9 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:14

Probably better having this thread for driver/team talk and the other thread for purely Renault car tech talk now I guess.


Edited by gowebber, 16 March 2019 - 04:14.


#10 mwf1

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:14

Why two threads?

Renault and RB slower than yesterday.

i think this is the ric vs hulk thread



#11 PassWind

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:20

Mods will work it out, in them I trust ;) 



#12 DILLIGAF

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:32

Well not sure what to make of that session. Haas ahead of Renault and RBR is a surprise. Hopefully we have more left up our sleeves. Sadly it looks like Merc and Ferrari with daylight between the rest of the field. Dan edges out Hulk for once.

 

I agree about Merc/Ferrari then daylight. I still think RBR will be 3rd best and 3 or 4 tenths quicker than Renault and Haas. 7th and 8th this weekend and being closer to RBR than last season would be a good result imho.



#13 DILLIGAF

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:33

i think this is the ric vs hulk thread

 

Yep.



#14 Alburaq

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:52

So why dont we call this Ric vs Hul thread and rename the other thread Renault like it was before? it was fine and clear. 



#15 Flasheart

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 05:44

Apparently those threads aren’t allowed anymore...

#16 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:38

If you read the announcements pinned at the top of RC, you might see what we’re aiming for this year. Vs threads were becoming a nightmare.

#17 born1983

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:42

Tough luck for Ricciardo. 0-1 :(

#18 lbennie

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:42

Ric had no DRS

#19 Flasheart

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:44

That went well...

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#20 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:45

Well thats disappointing both guys miss Q3. Haas wow. Just shows how good those Ferrari parts are. Hopefully our race pace is better and tyre wear helps us beat some of those teams marginally ahead.


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#21 ARTGP

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:45

Ric had no DRS

 

and Hulk didn't even go out for a second timed lap. Typical Renault bs.



#22 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:46

Ric had no DRS

 

Really? where did you hear that?



#23 DILLIGAF

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:46

Disappointing qualifying for Renault. Out in Q2 and 1.5secs behind the top dogs..  ):

 

Hulk takes 1-0 lead in Q.



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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:48

Ric had no DRS


Confirmed? That’s a huge disadvantage

#25 DeVol

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:48

First blood for Hulk.

 

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#26 lbennie

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:50

No I got it wrong. Rewound my dvr. 1-0 to the hulk

#27 lbennie

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:51

Confirmed? That’s a huge disadvantage


No my bad. I've had 1 too many guiness

#28 ARTGP

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:56

No my bad. I've had 1 too many guiness

 

I wish it was true. Now it just confirms the Renault is only quicker than Toro Rosso and Williams. This is just grim.

 

We are slower than Haas, Mclaren, Force India, and Alfa Romeo.  Just brutal.



#29 gowebber

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:58

Apparently Hulk had engine failure. :|



#30 lbennie

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:58

Ausgp is always funny. hulks long runs were pretty epic though. Well see tomorrow.

Edited by lbennie, 16 March 2019 - 06:59.


#31 lbennie

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 07:00

Apparently Hulk had engine failure. :|


Well ****

#32 Booky36

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 07:22

renault messed their first quali session,  they aren't 1s slower than Mclaren , so it happened something they need to investigate 



#33 spaceace1977

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 07:25

Ricciardo prob didnt expected to be outqualified by Hulk 🤨. Race will be better..

#34 DeVol

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 07:31

Yeah you think the RS is better than that, PU seems decent anyway.

#35 danstheman

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:38

Watched Dan's onboard from last lap in Q2 and looks like he had a slow exit from last corner before starting the lap, so perhaps his slow S1 was from that??

 

Edit: also just saw his interview and seems I was right, although it also affected his confidence and tyre temp for taking T1 at full speed too


Edited by danstheman, 16 March 2019 - 12:46.


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Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:44

Ricciardo prob didnt expected to be outqualified by Hulk . Race will be better..

 

I think its going to take a few races for him to get comfortable with the differences between the Red Bull and Renault cars. Still today was extremely close between both guys. Really looking forward to see what both guys can do in the race. I still think Renault have car and drivers to be 4th best team tomorrow. 


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#37 Laster

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 13:23

With what we know of Dan the expectation should be that he will win out between Hulk and him, but as a Hulk fan I hope he comes out on top. Right now however Dan has a lot more learning to do with how Renault operates, and that will be a setback for him for a while. Early season it should be advantage Hulk, after that I have no idea.

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 18:49

That wasn't what I expected to be honest. I expected Dan to be 0.5 sec in front of the Hulk.



#39 Requiem84

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 18:56

That wasn't what I expected to be honest. I expected Dan to be 0.5 sec in front of the Hulk.


Nice wake up call about your own perceptions :)

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#40 Laster

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 20:20

That wasn't what I expected to be honest. I expected Dan to be 0.5 sec in front of the Hulk.

Hamilton doesn’t average 0.5 over Bottas across the course of a season. Why would Dan be that far ahead of Hulk?

#41 A3

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 20:58

That wasn't what I expected to be honest. I expected Dan to be 0.5 sec in front of the Hulk.


Just because some driver are stuck in midfield cars, doesn't mean they're slow.

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:10

Hulk won fair and square, but ricciardo has admitted he has not learnt how to set the car up the best yet, so I do expect him to improve. It's not really an excuse for yesterday though.

#43 ARTGP

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:33

Are the Renault pit stops anything to write home about? I didn't follow them so intently last year.



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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:44

That wasn't what I expected to be honest. I expected Dan to be 0.5 sec in front of the Hulk.

 

Expecting Dan to be 0.5 ahead is very unfair to Hulk. I think they are evenly matched at this point and even when Dan does find his feet he won't be half a second quicker. There won't be much more than a couple of tenths between them in qualifying this year imho. I expect Dan to shade Hulk over the course of the season but there won't be much between them. 



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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:46

Whilst the result was disappointing, Hulk has looked pretty good all weekend.  His Q2 time was slower than Q1, so with track evolution I expect he could have found quite a bit of time on his 2nd run, I guess we'll never know.  I expect him to have a strong race though.  At his supposed value, Ricciardo cant afford time to get up to speed vs Hulk.  Anyone thinking Ricciardo was going to constantly put 0.3 sec on Hulk hasn't been watching Hulk over the last 8 years...



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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:32

I'm predicting good things today. Dan is a Sunday monster and hulks long run looked epic.

I'm in the penske box overlooking pits today. Just rubbing it in :p

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:47

Whilst the result was disappointing, Hulk has looked pretty good all weekend.  His Q2 time was slower than Q1, so with track evolution I expect he could have found quite a bit of time on his 2nd run, I guess we'll never know.  I expect him to have a strong race though.  At his supposed value, Ricciardo cant afford time to get up to speed vs Hulk.  Anyone thinking Ricciardo was going to constantly put 0.3 sec on Hulk hasn't been watching Hulk over the last 8 years...

 

I have no clue why people think Ricciardo is going to dust Hulk.  It's not like we are comparing to a Jolyon Palmer (with no disrespect to Palmer).  Hulk has always been near the limit of the car and regardless of what happened at Force India, he has come to this Renault team and drove the limit of the car. People grow, they don't stay the same. Hulk had his best season last year. What can Ricciardo do with his two feet that is going to get him so far ahead of Hulk.



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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:47

I'm predicting good things today. Dan is a Sunday monster and hulks long run looked epic.

I'm in the penske box overlooking pits today. Just rubbing it in :p

 

Enjoy!



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Posted 17 March 2019 - 01:05

Whilst the result was disappointing, Hulk has looked pretty good all weekend.  His Q2 time was slower than Q1, so with track evolution I expect he could have found quite a bit of time on his 2nd run, I guess we'll never know.  I expect him to have a strong race though.  At his supposed value, Ricciardo cant afford time to get up to speed vs Hulk.  Anyone thinking Ricciardo was going to constantly put 0.3 sec on Hulk hasn't been watching Hulk over the last 8 years...

 

I don't think anyone has stated that Dan will be constantly 0.3 sec ahead of Hulk. It's a very good driver pairing imho.  And now that the driver weight limit has increased, Hulk should be a little better off. 

 

Like i saiid, i think Dan will win the driver battle over the entire season, but not by much.



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Posted 17 March 2019 - 01:21

I'm predicting good things today. Dan is a Sunday monster and hulks long run looked epic.

I'm in the penske box overlooking pits today. Just rubbing it in :p

 

Enjoy it ya lucky bastard!  :p  :lol:

 

My schedule is lunch, watch a bit of the coverage, swim in the pool and then back inside for the race in 4K on the big screen TV with a few beers. Not too bad, but being at the track in good seats would be awesome today though.   :D

 

Hope we have something to cheer about at the end of the race today. Go boys!


Edited by gowebber, 17 March 2019 - 01:25.