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McLaren in 2019: Sainz and Norris, sponsors, management, rumour and scuttlebutt from the MTC


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#201 Joseki

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 20:24

The first refers to the fact that the number four in McLaren – Chief Operating Officer Simon Roberts – is leaving the team he has been with for 15 years. One presumes that Roberts has another job to go to, but it is still a fairly major change at McLaren, where he has long been one of the pillars of the team. A pretty heavy-hitter in the car industry in his youth, working as head of divisions at Rover and at BMW after the British firm was taken over by the Germans, Roberts has been at McLaren ever since, apart from a stint at Force India when the team was a major McLaren customer and Simon was seconded to Silverstone to make sure things ran smoothly. Also leaving Woking is Dave Probyn, a management consultant who has a background in quality control, but who has been with the team for two years, using the title “Operations Director”. His background was at Toyota, where he spent 10 years before working for five years with Mercedes in various F1 roles.

 

https://www.motorspo...saward/id/00498

 

Other changes at Woking.



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#202 ExEd

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Posted 05 May 2019 - 16:54

https://www.youtube....h?v=mgLmwyPD6TU

 

In the case you haven't seen that vid.

The sound of this car ,love it! :love:  :love:  :love:

Good luck to them. 


Edited by ExEd, 05 May 2019 - 16:56.


#203 Owen

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 15:10

'Exciting new additions' added to Brand Centre. According to the team.  :confused:



#204 SparkPlug86

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 15:34

'Exciting new additions' added to Brand Centre. According to the team.  :confused:

 

New Sponsors?



#205 Owen

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 15:58

New Sponsors?

Might be new hospitality areas - featuring Coca Cola or Huski or Estrella Galicia or a gaming/McLaren Shadow thing?



#206 CPR

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 13:49

Nice general article on Carlos:

https://www.formula1...Pa9xK18xBI.html



#207 bogi

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:09

McLAREN ANNOUNCES LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH ARROW ELECTRONICS https://www.mclaren....ow-electronics/

#208 Quickshifter

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:27

Mclaren the team with the maximum sponsor additions in the last 18 months. With the addition of Key, Seidl and ever improving Road car business things look good.

#209 LookButDontStare

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:29

looks like a few new bits on the car in that press release :clap:



#210 Joseki

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:31

This deal probably comes from the Indy 500 camp, Arrow is a primary sponsor for the SPM team in IndyCar.

#211 Owen

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:36

Re: Arrow; it’s not just racing, it’s group-wide partnership.


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#212 Owen

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 15:17

Andreas Seidl Q&A

https://www.mclaren....-andreas-seidl/



#213 mclarensmps

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 15:36

I think I'm placing an unreasonable amount of faith in Andreas. I have been excited about him since the rumours began (and we weren't even sure that it would be McLaren he'd come to).

:up:  :up:



#214 ar1

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 16:24

Is Lyft a new sponsor this weekend too?

 

Can't remember a car with so many sponsors on in the last 20 years :)


Edited by ar1, 09 May 2019 - 16:25.


#215 BRG

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 16:32

Mclaren the team with the maximum sponsor additions in the last 18 months. With the addition of Key, Seidl and ever improving Road car business things look good.

I thought that, about 12 months or so ago, people were reading the Last Rites for Mclaren.  :lol:



#216 ExEd

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 16:49

The F1 steps forward are nothing compare to what happened last financial year in Automotive , must have been one of the greatest seasons in the history of the brand.

#217 Mc_Silver

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 16:57

McLaren won't be the next Williams. They are doing everything they can to close the gap and move away from the midfield group. They are going in the right direction for sure. Onwards and upwards!

#218 mclarensmps

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 17:00

I want Williams to improve as well. We've lost too many historical names  :down:



#219 dierome87

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 17:05

It's cool to see that the team seems to be regaining the ability to attract sponsors. 

 

You have to give credit where it's due, and I think Zak has done a fantastic job in that front.

 

The next logical step is for the team to regain its technical strength (show that it can build a competitive chassis) and then go on the hunt for an exclusive engine manufacturer deal. 



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#220 Hamm

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 17:36

Is Lyft a new sponsor this weekend too?

BAT

#221 Muz Bee

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 05:50

I want Williams to improve as well. We've lost too many historical names  :down:

:up: You can't replace old names with new old names. I like that Mac are back, and back in 1968 orange "papaya" colour. All things are pointing to a big step up the grid this year.  :clap:



#222 kumo7

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 09:23

autosport really hates McLaren:

 

Norris on softs has unsurprisingly gone fastest on a 1m20.985, beating Gasly's time on the hards.

 

from the live feed.



#223 ARTGP

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 11:46

It's cool to see that the team seems to be regaining the ability to attract sponsors. 

 

You have to give credit where it's due, and I think Zak has done a fantastic job in that front.

 

The next logical step is for the team to regain its technical strength (show that it can build a competitive chassis) and then go on the hunt for an exclusive engine manufacturer deal. 

 

 

Bayerische Motoren Werke    :smoking:



#224 CPR

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 12:53



#225 Owen

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 07:33

'Exciting new additions' added to Brand Centre. According to the team. :confused:

So there is now a Estrella Galicia bar in the Brand Centre;
“Last night saw the official opening of our brand new @EG00 bar in the McLaren #BrandCentre.”

#226 CPR

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 23:10

https://twitter.com/...619423186165762

 

Check Lando's reply :lol:



#227 kumo7

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 07:41

 

 

Kinda nice to see the team mate having off track jokes.  :up:



#228 BCM

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 08:20

Hi - I'm just visiting from the Renault thread. I was just wondering if you had a spare strategist we could borrow? Our is broken.



#229 kumo7

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 09:03

Good luck  :up:



#230 SparkPlug86

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Posted 14 May 2019 - 17:38

Hi - I'm just visiting from the Renault thread. I was just wondering if you had a spare strategist we could borrow? Our is broken.

 

lol - You could try Ferrari?



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Posted 14 May 2019 - 20:22



#232 bogi

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Posted 14 May 2019 - 22:39

 

At 1:12 what they are putting on Carlos, some new kind of suspension?



#233 CPR

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 19:40

https://www.formula1...takes_here.html

 

Q: What are McLaren hoping for? What are the expectations:

Lando: We're hoping for a 1-2 :rotfl:

 

 

Similar interview with Carlos:

https://www.formula1...difference.html


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#234 NikL

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 20:06

The cars now have an impressive amount of sponsors on them at last. BAT sponsorship now moved to the sidepods with Vype brand for Monaco, lets hope it stays in this location as the bare sidepods really annoyed me. I believe this is the first commercial deal to occupy the sidepods since 2014 :eek:

 

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#235 Mc_Silver

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 20:23

McLaren has 43 partnerships listed on their website now.

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#236 ralphrj

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 09:23

McLaren has 43 partnerships listed on their website now.

 

Quantity is not particularly relevant. They may (and truth be told probably are) not worth very much.

 

The accounts for 2018 have now been published and are terrible (as expected).

 

Income fell from £197m in 2017 to £124m in 2018. This is £8m less than Williams earned last year.

 

Costs increased, presumably as a result of having to pay for the Renault engine, so the loss before tax increased from £16m in 2017 to £102m in 2018. The loss was partially reduced by the £10m profit made selling off some of the teams collection of historic racing cars.

 

Headcount was virtually unchanged at 714 compared to 706 in 2017. However, salary costs ballooned by nearly 20% from £51m to £60m (potentially the team having to pay at least part of Alonso's salary instead of Honda).

 

Despite the poor performance one Director was paid £3.7m (£0.6m in 2017).

 

The team now owes other companies in McLaren £141m.



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 15:42

What was the matter with Norris mid-race? He was so slow it almost had to be a tactical decision by McLaren? Didn't get what was going on there.

 

At some point McLaren told Norris "You can drive normally now", wonder what that meant.

 

Fantastic haul of points for Sainz, he drove a great race and used the opportunity well.



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 15:49

What was the matter with Norris mid-race? He was so slow it almost had to be a tactical decision by McLaren? Didn't get what was going on there.

 

At some point McLaren told Norris "You can drive normally now", wonder what that meant.

 

Fantastic haul of points for Sainz, he drove a great race and used the opportunity well.

They were using him to create a gap for Sainz to fall into when he pits.



#239 masa90

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 16:36

Sainz is showing his class. Nice to see!



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#240 GunnarN7

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 17:05

It's a shame we didn't get to see Sainz's pass on Kvyat on turn 3 round the outside, it should be one of the top moves of the year. We also missed the one Norris did in Bahrain. What's the matter with the broadcasts lately? It's not like we have lots of action in these last races but we're surely missing a lot of the best.

 

I think both Sainz and Norris have been proving that they're not the most mediocre pairing McLaren's had for a long time as some were saying at the start of the season. The car is not as bad as last year's, but also the midfield is very tight and it could've been so easy for the drivers to mess it up. Pit stops also are among the best on the grid so it's definitely a proper team effort. I'm happy for them.


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#241 ARTGP

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 17:09

I think both Sainz and Norris have been proving that they're not the most mediocre pairing McLaren's had for a long time as some were saying at the start of the season. The car is not as bad as last year's, but also the midfield is very tight and it could've been so easy for the drivers to mess it up. Pit stops also are among the best on the grid so it's definitely a proper team effort. I'm happy for them.

 

Okay but to be fair, when your previous drivers at McLaren were basically all world champions at one point, isn't it a little understandable?  "Mediocre" would be the wrong word. Just "less accomplished".



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 18:30

Okay but to be fair, when your previous drivers at McLaren were basically all world champions at one point, isn't it a little understandable?  "Mediocre" would be the wrong word. Just "less accomplished".

 

It is understandable, but that's the thing: mediocre is the wrong word and that's exactly the one it was used or meant. Sainz still has a lot to prove (this was his 5th Q3 in Monaco, it's not like he hasn't done any of this before), but some people refused to give him a chance to begin with. I think it's because he lacks the charm other drivers have, but also because of the cliched "you're as good as your last race". His 2018 season was a big meh and he was also dumped by Red Bull, so of course he was going to be mediocre. 



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Posted 27 May 2019 - 00:40

It's a shame we didn't get to see Sainz's pass on Kvyat on turn 3 round the outside, it should be one of the top moves of the year. We also missed the one Norris did in Bahrain. What's the matter with the broadcasts lately? It's not like we have lots of action in these last races but we're surely missing a lot of the best.

 

I think both Sainz and Norris have been proving that they're not the most mediocre pairing McLaren's had for a long time as some were saying at the start of the season. The car is not as bad as last year's, but also the midfield is very tight and it could've been so easy for the drivers to mess it up. Pit stops also are among the best on the grid so it's definitely a proper team effort. I'm happy for them.

 

is this the move you're referring to?

 

https://www.formula1...lVYXOAVIzQ.html



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Posted 27 May 2019 - 16:31

They were using him to create a gap for Sainz to fall into when he pits.

 

Yeah, seems like it.

 

Norris has been too nice and self critical. He shouldn't be letting himself be used like that anymore this season. It will hurt him in the long run. He's young but he's got to stand up for himself.



#245 Joseki

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 19:48

The cars now have an impressive amount of sponsors on them at last. BAT sponsorship now moved to the sidepods with Vype brand for Monaco, lets hope it stays in this location as the bare sidepods really annoyed me. I believe this is the first commercial deal to occupy the sidepods since 2014 :eek:
 
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BAT probably got the sidepods as a "refund" for the Indy 500.

All the sponsors they signed for the race will get some compensation for them not making the race.

#246 NixxxoN

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 19:59

Yeah, seems like it.
 
Norris has been too nice and self critical. He shouldn't be letting himself be used like that anymore this season. It will hurt him in the long run. He's young but he's got to stand up for himself.

Its monaco, he could not overtake the cars in front and he found himself in that out of points place, thats the best they could do given the situation, work for the team

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 20:50

Lando Norris streaming right now, wearing a Kimoa sweater :lol:

https://m.twitch.tv/landonorris

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 06:01

Yeah, seems like it.

 

Norris has been too nice and self critical. He shouldn't be letting himself be used like that anymore this season. It will hurt him in the long run. He's young but he's got to stand up for himself.

If him and Carlos deliver 4th in WCC with a strong finish to the season Lando may find himself stepping aside for Fernando! That would be a tough call if he produces some great drives....

 

I think a strong development driver would be what's needed to close the gap in front and an F1 rookie is probably not that but Carlos looks pretty stout at delivering week in week out, that was a helluva race at Monaco, got the maximum + out of a car which wasn't suited to the place.



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Posted 28 May 2019 - 06:52

Norris has been too nice and self critical. He shouldn't be letting himself be used like that anymore this season. It will hurt him in the long run. He's young but he's got to stand up for himself.

 

 

I tend to disagree. Now the Team is not in the position to let the drivers "stand up for themselves". It's not the proper ambition for the McLaren driver to beat teammate for, say, fifth or sixth place. So taking into account our current situation the drivers should work together because now they don't have anything to fight against each other for. And I'm delighted to see that both Carlos and Lando seem to understand that.



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Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:04

If him and Carlos deliver 4th in WCC with a strong finish to the season Lando may find himself stepping aside for Fernando! That would be a tough call if he produces some great drives....

 

I think a strong development driver would be what's needed to close the gap in front and an F1 rookie is probably not that but Carlos looks pretty stout at delivering week in week out, that was a helluva race at Monaco, got the maximum + out of a car which wasn't suited to the place.

 

But why will Alonso come back to drive a car that is only 4th in WCC. What benefit will it be to him? He is after wins/wdc not just finishing up high in the order