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#5801 Mc_Silver

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 17:19

James Key admits McLaren have to take risks to reach potential

https://www.gpblog.c...-potential.html

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#5802 mclarensmps

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 21:25

Well good thing we now have the Key to unlock that new potential



#5803 kumo7

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 21:31

I first thought Key is going for revolution, but no, it is evo, now this is good, hope it is.


Edited by kumo7, 02 February 2020 - 21:31.


#5804 MirNyet

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 17:21

Everything is pointing to the design team being well aware of the area's where large steps were needed, so unless they miss something, or bake a fundamental issue into the design, we should see a reasonable step in performance from this new car.  If Renault can take another step with their PU as well, then, could be interesting.



#5805 DeKnyff

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 17:41

Well good thing we now have the Key to unlock that new potential

Oh, please, no U-word in this thread. Not again.



#5806 Quickshifter

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 03:25

Pole time wise we will be, around half a second off the slowest top six car, which most likely will be Albon. It is the race pace where the difference was really big last year and which is where the biggest step needs to be made.


Since fuel allocation is fixed race pace is largely about tyre life. The top cars are much more balanced, carry more downforce and slide less. Last year Mclaren did not drive to the max potential of the car during races on most occasions as they clearly knew there was no point stressing the tyres and risking reliability with the top six cars so far out of the reach. A top six car starting from the back could still comfortably be in top six by the middle of the race. I hope that changes this year where hopefully we will have enough pace to keep them behind.

Edited by Quickshifter, 04 February 2020 - 03:28.


#5807 f1rules

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 15:31

Are you going to the launch this year owen?

#5808 Owen

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 16:36

Are you going to the launch this year owen?

Yes, hoping to be there.


Edited by Owen, 04 February 2020 - 16:39.


#5809 Owen

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 20:56

There’s a photo doing the rounds (taken at MTC) of the 34 with various parts missing. It’s making me think the launch car will have some older parts on it (and this is the donor car). Could be wrong of course.

#5810 Lotusse7en

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 10:34

There’s a photo doing the rounds (taken at MTC) of the 34 with various parts missing. It’s making me think the launch car will have some older parts on it (and this is the donor car). Could be wrong of course.

Certainly not the 5 wheels ? :p



#5811 kumo7

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:10

well, that sounds like a interesting move. McLaren has got new for us!



#5812 Nobody

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:20

I've seen a shot of a 34 with no halo and an early season front wing missing most of its upper elements

#5813 Owen

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:44

I've seen a shot of a 34 with no halo and an early season front wing missing most of its upper elements

Yeh, that's the one.



#5814 kumo7

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:45

Perhaps I was too joyous...  :smoking:


Edited by kumo7, 06 February 2020 - 12:45.


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Posted 06 February 2020 - 13:05

Anyone able to post this photo?

 

Btw, when do we start the 35 thread? I see there's a few popped up for Williams,Merc etc...



#5816 Lotusse7en

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 13:09

Certainly not the 5 wheels ? :p

Sorry, 4 wheels and a game boy controller 



#5817 Nobody

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 21:13

Anyone able to post this photo?

Btw, when do we start the 35 thread? I see there's a few popped up for Williams,Merc etc...


https://i.redd.it/u2a2mck3a1f41.jpg

Just noticed mirrors also gone

#5818 mclarensmps

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:57

Looks good like that...



#5819 taran

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 08:09

He'll need to grow some pubes first. So far I haven't seen the killer instinct in him, more like a boy fighting with men.

 

Personally, I quite enjoyed him putting Leclerc in his place in Brazil after the swipe.

Norris has the fire, it just needs to come out more often.

 



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#5820 Rinehart

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 11:02

MCL35 Concept Liverys

 

 

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I hope they lose much of the black. I doubt that will happen though as all teams have gone that way in a nonsensical attempt to hide their aerodynamic appendages for 5 minutes...

Ideally I'd like to see something like a Gulf liveried Le Mans sports car design (albeit in McLaren's orange and blue tones). Even though Orange is McLarens corporate colour, it doesn't need to be the main colour in terms of real estate. 


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#5821 SarbaV

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 12:02

I hope they lose much of the black. I doubt that will happen though as all teams have gone that way in a nonsensical attempt to hide their aerodynamic appendages for 5 minutes...
Ideally I'd like to see something like a Gulf liveried Le Mans sports car design (albeit in McLaren's orange and blue tones). Even though Orange is McLarens corporate colour, it doesn't need to be the main colour in terms of real estate.


I want to do the opposite and make the car fully black like how Ron Dennis wanted it.

#5822 f1rules

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 13:31

So gary anderson left also or?, damm im gonna miss his spot on analysis 😄

#5823 bogi

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 14:02

I hope Joe Saward will be salty this launch also.



#5824 pup

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 15:16

I want to do the opposite and make the car fully black like how Ron Dennis wanted it.

Eh, no.



#5825 pup

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 15:16

I hope Joe Saward will be salty this launch also.

Does he have another mode?



#5826 bogi

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 15:42

Does he have another mode?

 

 

I don't know.

 

But it was really funny last year the launch when he lost his mind over invitation.



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Posted 07 February 2020 - 15:50

Indy car launch in just a few minutes - https://arrowmclaren...ar-launch-live/

 

Might give some hints on what the F1 livery will look like.



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Posted 07 February 2020 - 16:47

Indy car launch in just a few minutes - https://arrowmclaren...ar-launch-live/

 

Might give some hints on what the F1 livery will look like.

Looks like more black then and a lot less blue...I'm underwhelmed to be honest and hope the F1 car is a bit more dynamic...



#5829 TheGoldenStoffel

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 16:51

Looks like more black then and a lot less blue...I'm underwhelmed to be honest and hope the F1 car is a bit more dynamic...

 

Yeah it looks a bit back marker-ish. Would be a shame if they go with the same livery for their F1 car, especially as I really liked last year's livery.



#5830 cbbcisace

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 16:58

I don’t expect the new f1 car to have as much black, the black on the IndyCar is for the previous teams guise..

#5831 pup

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 17:04

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#5832 pup

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 17:05

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#5833 pup

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 17:06

It's not bad, but I also hope the F1 car has more blue.  This is too much like the old Orange Arrows for my taste.



#5834 Hamm

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 17:16

I don’t expect the new f1 car to have as much black, the black on the IndyCar is for the previous teams guise..

black is the color of the title sponsor Arrow

#5835 cbbcisace

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 17:20

black is the color of the title sponsor Arrow


Ah makes sense, not a surprise there is so much black there then

#5836 BertoC

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 18:45

Some stuff will be present on the F1 car 100% sure like the numbers style and those lines (serrated) transitioning from the orange to the black on the sidepods. Just hope the wings and nose are not black :( Hope it's just an ARROW thing.



#5837 mclarensmps

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 21:58

That looks fantastic



#5838 onewingedangel

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 22:35

The use of the blue is a bit half-arsed.

Would look far better if one car had blue wings and black rear-wheel covers, and the other black wings and blue rear-wheel covers.

#5839 bogi

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 22:43

Im not indy car expert, why there is difference between sponsor logos on the cars?

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#5840 kumo7

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Posted 08 February 2020 - 06:22

wooooowww, I can't wait.... It is worse than having no sex for a month.... 



#5841 Nathan

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Posted 08 February 2020 - 15:21

Im not indy car expert, why there is difference between sponsor logos on the cars?

 

It is pretty common with American race teams that each car has different sponsors.   For example, I don't think I ever seen matching NASCARs.  In Indy car I only recall that larger, professional teams like Ganasi, Penske and Forsythe had cars looking the same.  I think American sponsorship is more connected to the drivers profile than the teams compared to Europe.



#5842 BRG

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Posted 08 February 2020 - 17:39

Im not indy car expert, why there is difference between sponsor logos on the cars?

 

It is pretty common with American race teams that each car has different sponsors.   For example, I don't think I ever seen matching NASCARs.  In Indy car I only recall that larger, professional teams like Ganasi, Penske and Forsythe had cars looking the same.  I think American sponsorship is more connected to the drivers profile than the teams compared to Europe.

The other reason is that Indycar was never ruined by an avaricious little man with OCD who couldn't stand anything out it's appointed place (appointed by him, of course)



#5843 Fatgadget

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Posted 08 February 2020 - 17:42

The other reason is that Indycar was never ruined by an avaricious little man with OCD who couldn't stand anything out it's appointed place (appointed by him, of course)

Are you suggesting Ron Denis is the sole reason MacLaren is  what it is now?



#5844 Lerdes

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Posted 08 February 2020 - 18:55

Are you suggesting Ron Denis is the sole reason MacLaren is what it is now?


He was the boss. He could have changed something. He hired Zak Brown...

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Posted 08 February 2020 - 19:52

Wait... weren't we talking about liveries and logos? Ron is the culprit of F1 teams not running different liveries for each car like they do in the US? What? :confused:


Edited by BertoC, 08 February 2020 - 19:53.


#5846 pup

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Posted 08 February 2020 - 20:16

Are you suggesting Ron Denis is the sole reason MacLaren is  what it is now?

Pretty sure he meant Bernie.



#5847 kumo7

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 04:39

Black, might be more dominant if ARROW rise its involvement in F1.

But I recognized that the video shown on McLaren site, shows the car with lighter tone of orange. 

 in the mean time, Carlos is preparing to knock down the Ham...



#5848 rabbitleader

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 11:09

These F1 car launches are utterly pointless unless showing off new sponsors or new livery. They might might as well use last year's car for this purpose as they strip all new aero from the car until day one of testing.

#5849 Fatgadget

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 12:12

These F1 car launches are utterly pointless unless showing off new sponsors or new livery. They might might as well use last year's car for this purpose as they strip all new aero from the car until day one of testing.

Eh! Their point is filling the void. That is why you are talking about F1 after all!



#5850 Fatgadget

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 12:13

Pretty sure he meant Bernie.

Was he? Damn!