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Alfa Romeo 2019: Kimi's back, Giovinazzi's back, Alfa's back (why?)


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#651 Vesuvius

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 13:45

Kimi said that they didn't get the tyres work, new tyres didnt feel like new at all.

Giovinazzi said it's likely that they didn't get these tyre types (softer sets than at Brazil) to work.

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#652 Balnazzard

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 13:49

Well season done then. Pathetic performance

I think today's qualifying reflects quite well the overall performance of the teams...more or less the teams are in right order and I think tomorrow's race we shall see Haas once again dropping behind as 2nd worst team.

Overall Alfa needs to understand how to make the car work better on ALL different tyre compounds on different tracks/different conditions....they really lacked the consistency this year that is so imporant in midfield battle especially.

Overall the car is definitely not bad, but it all seems to come down to getting best out of tyres in every race weekend.


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#653 Yoshi

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:08

Kimi said that they didn't get the tyres work, new tyres didnt feel like new at all.

Giovinazzi said it's likely that they didn't get these tyre types (softer sets than at Brazil) to work.

 

This is just nuts - even in the last race not able to get the tyres working..  :drunk:



#654 Vesuvius

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 14:50

No points, but Kimi drove a good race and beats his team mate by over 43 seconds difference

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 15:03

Shame that car was do poor after summer break. Today Kimi again showed hes still class driver, car was just too slow to get points. Beating teammate who qualified ahead by over 40s is quite a margin.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 15:38

Hopefully for next year Alfa is able to build a car that is more consistent on different tyres/different tracks.... from midfield teams aside from Mclaren, Racing Point, Toro Rosso and even Renault were not that far off overall this season that beating them would be impossible.

Kimi made some mistakes, otherwise it was rather good season from him and ofc he brought most of those valuable points to the team, as was expected. Gio showed already that he can be even faster in qualifying speed but he needs to be more consistent in races. Fully deserves 2nd season though after a difficult first half he managed to improve quite a bit.


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#657 thegamer23

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 15:45

Well, season over than.

Let's hope for a more consistent car next season.

 

Kimi still has it in races, Gio has it in quali, hopefully with a better understanding of the tyres the team can make another step forward in 2020. 



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Posted 01 December 2019 - 15:47

Shame that car was do poor after summer break. Today Kimi again showed hes still class driver, car was just too slow to get points. Beating teammate who qualified ahead by over 40s is quite a margin.

 

I believe there were races they could score some good points (e.g Belgium, Singapore etc) but bad luck and silly mistakes didn't allow it. But yeah, in some races the pace was really bad.

There were many ups and downs during the season. 

I hope for a good work during the winter break so the team can be able to fight for points in every race the next season.



#659 Ice1Fan

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 16:01

Well, season over than.

Let's hope for a more consistent car next season.

 

Kimi still has it in races, Gio has it in quali, hopefully with a better understanding of the tyres the team can make another step forward in 2020. 

I'd not say Gio has it in quali. Kimi is still good in quali.



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#660 Jovanotti

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 18:04

Still thinking about what could have been in Spa if Verstappen had not collected Kimi at the start or Hockenheim if the strategy had been on point.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 18:48

Shame that car was do poor after summer break. Today Kimi again showed hes still class driver, car was just too slow to get points. Beating teammate who qualified ahead by over 40s is quite a margin.

 

In fairness Gio did two stops whereas Kimi did the one so 20 odd seconds of that is accounted for with the additional stop. 



#662 Ramon69

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 19:03

I would love to see a better car for Alfa, so that Kimi can at least constantly be in the points! I don't dare dreaming of podiums, but it would be nice to see him often in the points at least.



#663 Zilbert

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 19:04

In fairness Gio did two stops whereas Kimi did the one so 20 odd seconds of that is accounted for with the additional stop. 

Theoretically you should compensate for that time being able to run softer tyres and push a bit more. 



#664 Francesc

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 19:38

Simone Resta leaving during the summer has hurt the team immensely.



#665 Mohican

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 22:20

This team was at rock bottom and very nearly died in 2016 and has now been rebuilt into a credible midfield force; how about giving them some credit for that.

If nothing else shows scale of challenge facing Williams.

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Posted 02 December 2019 - 09:15

This team was at rock bottom and very nearly died in 2016 and has now been rebuilt into a credible midfield force; how about giving them some credit for that.

If nothing else shows scale of challenge facing Williams.

Ye that is true, they have atleast taking big steps from that year and managed to rebuild themselves as midfield team. Just that ofc now after they have finished 8th two seasons in row, ofc next year they would have to make some progress and be more competitive overall throughout the season and not have as big drops in performance as they had this season. If I remember correctly, Vasseur had set them ambitious goal to be even 4th best team this season and obviously they were far from that...

But now that Giovinazzi has more experience, hopefully both drivers would be able to get points right from the start of the season next year...ofc Simone Resta leaving had/is going to have some effect next year as well, but as they say team cant rely entirely on one man. Anyhow if they again finish up 8th (let alone worse) next season, then it would be even more of a failure, though Idk how realistic it is to expect things to change much next year considering what happens in 2021. But anyhow with more consistency Alfa could have challenged for 7th or even 6th place in WCC, so it should not be entirely unrealistic to expect better position from them next year.



#667 barzini

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Posted 02 December 2019 - 20:24

As a Kimi fan I enjoyed this season. Many great moments like Bahrain race, Spa Q, Germany, Hungary. And then some not so great like Monza Q, Sochi start etc. It was good that he managed to end the season on a high note (Brazil, AbuDhabi races were pretty good).

 

Funny thing is that he had only 12 points less than in 2014 in a Ferrari...