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[milestone 11]

Verbal, he say,
I used to be in a barber shop quartet in Skokie, Illinois. The baritone was this guy named Kip Diskin, big fat guy, I mean, like, orca fat. He was so stressed in the morning...

Well, I don't think that this has anything to do with Skokie Illinois though I'm not sure. Frankly, I know nothing, a bit like Schultz.
https://www.youtube....h?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
The little that I do know from wiki and other sources follows. You tardy buggers can fill in the gaps.
Barber Raceway.
90 laps. a clockwise 16-turn 2.38-mile (3.83 km) with a race distance of 214.2 miles (344.7 km)

New map courtesy of ANF.


Josef Newgarden seems to be the man to watch, having won three of the last four years, Simon Pagenaud being the interloper. Fastest lap appears to be Newgarden in quali last year with a 1.07.583 and the fastest race speed by Pagenaud at 114.254mph for those that need a race speed

Just to add to the excitement, Pato (the duck) O'Ward won both Indy Lights races here last year and Colton Herta won once in '17

All below times are local UK is six hours ahead meaning qualy and race start at 9.00pm (I think)

https://www.youtube....h?v=sNdUsOmK34M
Sky Sports F1
Saturday: Qualifying 9.00pm - 10.30pm
Sunday: Race 9.00pm - 12.00pm

Friday, April 5
8.00-8.30am, F3 Americas first practice
8.45-9.20am, Global Mazda MX5-Cup first practice
9.35-10.05am, Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge USA first practice
10.20-11.00am, Lamborghini Super Trofeo first practice
11.15am-12.00pm, IndyCar Series first practice (NBC Sports Gold, IndyCar Radio + affiliates)
12.15-12.45pm, F3 Americas second practice
1.00-1.35pm, Global Mazda MX5-Cup second practice
1.50-2.35pm, Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge USA second practice
2.50-3.35pm, IndyCar Series second practice (NBC Sports Gold, IndyCar Radio + affiliates)
3.50-4.30pm, Lamborghini Super Trofeo second practice
Saturday, April 6
8.05-8.35am, F3 Americas qualifying
8.50-9.10am, Global Mazda MX5-Cup qualifying
9.25-10.00am, Lamborghini Super Trofeo qualifying
10.15-10.30am, Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge USA qualifying
10.45-11.30am, IndyCar Series third practice (NBC Sports Gold, IndyCar Radio + affiliates)
11.45am-12.35pm, F3 Americas Race 1
12.50-1.35pm, Global Mazda MX5-Cup Race 1 (MazdaMotorsports.com)
1.50-2.40pm, Lamborghini Super Trofeo Race 1 (IMSA.tv)
3.00-4.15pm, IndyCar Series qualifying (NBC Sports Network, NBC Sports Gold, IndyCar Radio + affiliates)
4.30-5.15pm, Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge USA Race 1 (IMSA.tv)
5.30-6.15pm, Global Mazda MX5-Cup Race 2 (MazdaMotorsports.com)
Sunday, April 7
8.30-9.20am, F3 Americas Race 2
11.10-11.40am, IndyCar Series warm-up (NBC Sports Gold, IndyCar Radio + affiliates)
11.55am-12.40pm, Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge USA Race 2 (IMSA.tv)
12.55-1.45pm, Lamborghini Super Trofeo Race 2 (IMSA.tv)
3.15pm green flag, NTT IndyCar Series Honda Indy Grand Prix of Alabama, 90 laps
(NBCSN coverage 3.00-6.00pm, IndyCar Radio + affiliates)

Edited by milestone 11, 05 April 2019 - 21:39.

[Frood]

Shame Indy Lights aren’t running at Barber. They could run, oh, I don’t know - about 42 laps?

They could call it the Haircut 100.

[DS27]

Mmmmm, Barber.

 

It's going to be a good weekend.  

[DS27]

Fantasy Challenge is a bit weird this year. The prices don't really seem to be changing to reflect results. 

 

I mean, Marco is still more than Herta!

[Afterburner]

Fantasy Challenge is a bit weird this year. The prices don't really seem to be changing to reflect results. 
 
I mean, Marco is still more than Herta!

So the salaries don't move with the results like some sort of fantasy driver market? How unrealistic is that?

[Anja]

The prices do change, only really slowly so far. For example I'm 100% sure that Newgarden wasn't at $34 before the first race. 

Edited by Anja, 04 April 2019 - 20:27.

[milestone 11]

The prices do change, only really slowly so far. For example I'm 100% sure that Newgarden wasn't at $34 before the first race. 

I had him in my team at the first race and he was $34 then.

[Anja]

Huh, I could've sworn it was something like $32 for Dixon and then Newgarden-Power-Rossi in the $31-30 range back then. 

[Widefoot2]

A moment of silence for another racing school owner:

 

https://forums.autos...im-russell-rip/

[DS27]

Huh, I could've sworn it was something like $32 for Dixon and then Newgarden-Power-Rossi in the $31-30 range back then. 

 

Yeah, I think that was the case; as you would expect, Dixon as Champ was the most expensive. 

 

It's not that there hasn't been any movement since day 1 (though i'm not convinced there has been much at all since the last race), but isn't Herta more or less the same lowly $23 despite winning the last race? It's a no brainer to pick him, whereas if he was around $28 maybe not.

 

No way us laggards are going to close the gap to the top if we are all picking the same drivers...

Edited by DS27, 04 April 2019 - 21:25.

[jonpollak]

I loved Sgt. Shultz. Oh and I ran lights for Nik Heywood at the Hammersmith Palais in 19 eighty something.
They told me I could do the whole tour... if I cut my hair.

Jp

[paulb]

Shame Indy Lights aren’t running at Barber. They could run, oh, I don’t know - about 42 laps?

They could call it the Haircut 100.

You would think Sport Clips would be all over that.

[BuddyHolly]

Looking forward to this, I'm enjoying indycar so far.  Never seen this track before, looks interesting but kind of familiar in some odd way.

[maximilian]

FINALLY another IndyCar race!!  It's been too long.  Really looking forward to this one.  And all of them! 

[maximilian]

So does anybody want to try the IndyRivals Head2HEAT Fantasy Rotisserie Presented by Butterball Turkey Pick'Em game?  Or crap idea?

 

https://forums.autos...tles/?p=8703601

Edited by maximilian, 05 April 2019 - 02:42.

[bargeboard]

It's not that there hasn't been any movement since day 1 (though i'm not convinced there has been much at all since the last race), but isn't Herta more or less the same lowly $23 despite winning the last race? It's a no brainer to pick him, whereas if he was around $28 maybe not.

After the win and caution luck to get it, Colton is due to be IndyCar'd to the negative.. will it be this weekend, or will the gods go easy on the rookie for one more week??

[jonpollak]

As the fantasy leader... are YOU picking 88?

https://racer.com/20...ber-long-beach/



Asking for the room maid at the Hotel.

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 05 April 2019 - 05:17.

[prommer]

Thanks for the OP milestone11! Let's Goooooooo

[teejay]

Can't wait for another race I'll need to resort to piracy to watch!

[owenmahamilton]

Is anyone else watching the Indycar series here in the UK on Sky Sports F1 having issues with series link? Before the first race of the season once I realised that Sky would be showing the qualifying as well as the race, I set up two separate series links, one for the qualifying and one for the race. After the first race it said it was searching for the next race and would be automatically added to the planner when available. It picked up the series link for the qualifying show but not for the race so I had to reinstate it myself and it did the same thing after the second race. I'm going on holiday in a couple of weeks for nearly two weeks and don't want to miss a race due to the series link not working.

[TheJammin]

Things I'm excited about this weekend:

 

1. IndyCar.

2. IndyCar.

3. Moar Indycar.

4. Rewatching last year's Barber IndyCar.

[Peat]

Thar be weather about, again. 

[search]

looks like there was a test in Barber right after St Pete. Does anyone have the times for that one?

[MattK9]

My picks got screwed over in the last race. It was looking really good at one point but then one of my picks hit the barrier at the pit lane entrance bringing out the yellow flag which ruined the races of my other picks.

 

Also i did have Herta in my team for St Pete, but dropped him in favour of Pato for this race.      

 

The prices of the players *cough* has changed after each game *cough*. Newgarden and Herta prices have gone up from their starting point.  

[paulb]

But FanTrax (so far) does not change the prices to the extent the Indycar run game did. Makes it much easier to pick, imho.

[red stick]

Marshall Pruett previews Barber:

 

https://racer.com/20...talking-points/

[ezequiel]

Shame Indy Lights aren’t running at Barber. They could run, oh, I don’t know - about 42 laps?

They could call it the Haircut 100.

 

Oh, but F3 Americas is running with... 13 cars!

[ANF]

Indycar use different corner numbers than the ones in the OP. Here's the Indycar map:

[milestone 11]

Indycar use different corner numbers than the ones in the OP. Here's the Indycar map:

Thanks ANF. With your permission, I'll change to this in the OP.

[ANF]

Thanks ANF. With your permission, I'll change to this in the OP.

Go ahead.

[PayasYouRace]

Indycar use different corner numbers than the ones in the OP. Here's the Indycar map:
 

 

Only in Indycar can one corner be both Turns 5 and 6, yet three separate corners in different directions be numbered only 8 and 9.

[bargeboard]

As the fantasy leader... are YOU picking 88?

https://racer.com/20...ber-long-beach/



Asking for the room maid at the Hotel.

Jp

 

 

My formula is: Do not pick Will Power, do pick one of Herta or Pato. I've been on Herta in races 1 and 2 this year, but I have a feeling that this is a Pato weekend.

[DS27]

 

My formula is: Do not pick Will Power

 

 

Will Power - the biggest conundrum in Fantasy Indycar. 

[prommer]

Those of you who are new to IndyCar, you're going to love this track.

 

This is however a bit earlier than usual for this race (by a couple of weeks) so I wonder if it's going to be as green and lush as it usually is.  I mean, it's not going to be Sonoma in September brown, but there may be fewer new buds on display then usual.  But anyway the obligatory Barber porn:

 

 

 

 

 

And because someone usually asks, SHE is not there any more, and has been gone for some time.  There was discussion in past years that she looked somewhat like Kat Legge but anyhoo

 

 

However, this lady (JP's favorite) is still hanging on for dear life. WILL SOMEBODY FROM THE AMR SAFETY TEAM PLEASE HELP THIS WOMAN

 

Edited by prommer, 05 April 2019 - 15:55.

[red stick]

Only in Indycar can one corner be both Turns 5 and 6, yet three separate corners in different directions be numbered only 8 and 9.

 

It gets worse.  If you look at in-car streams or look at a map of suggested racing lines at Barber, the 8-9 complex is basically treated as a single curve.

[prommer]

Is Turns 5-6 where Newgarden in previous years (and Rahal?) pulled off some pretty stupendous passes?

[prommer]

Oh by the way, practice 1 in FIVE MINUTES

[loki]

Bit of a false start on the stream.  They opened it up for about a minute at the top of the hour.  They were either doing the VOs or previewing the package for Colton Herta is young winner.  There will be a graphic of young winners from car series.  Oops...

[paulb]

Is there weather at Barber?

[prommer]

Horticultural update: it's pretty brown.  It's a Mid-Ohio in July color.  They really need to have this race after Long Beach, not before, IMHO.

[paulb]

there was live timing note about wet tires being permitted. i thought there might be a bit of the rain happening or imminent.

[prommer]

Is there weather at Barber?

 

Threatening clouds lurking above, but no precipitation as of yet.

[paulb]

Thanks, prommer.

[prommer]

Red flag for Leist in the wall.  He found a wall.

[Afterburner]

Only in Indycar can one corner be both Turns 5 and 6, yet three separate corners in different directions be numbered only 8 and 9.

I love the wackiness that results from this.

Barber is a fun place. I have worked SCCA events at Barber before; I'm pretty sure the numbering on that map corresponds to the location of the flag stations. I've worked 1, 4, 9, and 10. 9 and 10 were lots of fun, especially when my wife drew the short straw at 9 and had to go retrieve one of those circular stick-on mirrors from an F600 lost in the gravel between sessions while my brother and I sat behind and did our best job quoting Forrest Gump. In our defense, she still carries it around as a makeup mirror.

You can't walk to the stations, so you have to ride a pull-behind tram out to them at the start and end of each day. One year we had a NOLA-level storm come through at the end of the day. We postponed the last race because of lightning in the area. I wanted to bring the track's gear in, but everyone else at the station didn't want to have to accommodate it amongst all their own crap while sitting on the tram. I shrugged and left it behind. Thirty minutes later, as 35 mi/h winds and torrential rain began to punish the track, we canceled running for the rest of the day–but they needed to send the tram back out with one worker from each turn to go out and get the gear that the track owned.

Guess who drew the short straw that day?

My windbreaker was completely incapable of sheltering me from the 35 mi/h headwind that was blowing northeast directly into us down the straight between 4 and 5, and as we were doing 40 at the time, I remember thinking, "This is what it must feel like to be stuck in a hurricane." I remember walking back into race control to catch up with the rest of my family, opening the door, and looking like I'd just walked through a freakin' car wash. I turned my badge holder upside down (this supposedly snug, water-tight rubber sheath no bigger than a credit card), and it literally filled an entire 8 oz cup of water. I wasn't sure how that was physically possible. That was like five years ago and I'm still drying out.

And lastly, because I was bored, station 10 has sawhorse projections of all 20 essential amino acids carved into the underside of the railing...
 

However, this lady (JP's favorite) is still hanging on for dear life. WILL SOMEBODY FROM THE AMR SAFETY TEAM PLEASE HELP THIS WOMAN
 

It would be very Indycar if we went yellow because she fell onto the track...

[prommer]

So very, very strange. With 9 minutes left in the session, SATOOOO, Kanaan and Hinchtown all spin out at the same time, at different parts of the track. And it wasn't rain!? Red flag again.

[johnwilliamdavies]

Nice skateboarding reference. 50/50 grind.

[prommer]

One year we had a NOLA-level storm come through at the end of the day. 

 

A good reminder that we're only a couple weeks out of tornado season in Alabama.  Another reason why they should run this race at the end of April/beginning of May.

[prommer]

Pigot spins, and the session is over. Rosenqvist with the fastest lap, I believe?

[jonpollak]

Prommer:
Lady of the Lake looks more like Karen Gillian to me.

Har Har.
Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 05 April 2019 - 17:21.