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#201 Marklar

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:49

Could somebody post best sectors from FP2?

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#202 SenorSjon

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:51

What is Gasly doing? He is near a second slower every session than Verstappen.



#203 Frank

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:51

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Vettel got a small tow on the long straight and only manages 0.005 faster than Bottas. Mercedes is flying.



#204 lewislorenzo

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:58

Looks close between RB, Ferrari and Merc. Compared to last year HAM looks much better👍🏽Hope HULK has a clean weekend too!!

#205 uraharakisuke

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:04

Are Ferrari gaining 4 tenths on the straight? Seems not. Let's wait until tomorrow to see if the straight line speed is there.



#206 RA2

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:10

Wat the hell is this?

 

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#207 Marklar

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:13

Karun has his one car view camera. I was watching Martin talk when I saw Grosjean lock up while Hamilton was just behind him.

Just checked his onboard, there was nothing like that. Looked all pretty normal. And he was far far behind Grosjean. Dunno how that should affect his lap time.

Just a bad lap, rest of his friday seemed good, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Are Ferrari gaining 4 tenths on the straight? Seems not. Let's wait until tomorrow to see if the straight line speed is there.

FWIW Hamilton's engineer told him that he lost on Vettel in T9/10 and the rest on straights. But Bottas was also told that Vettel had a tow on the backstraight, so we'll see I guess.



#208 uraharakisuke

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:13

Wat the hell is this?

 

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Racing Point's B-spec car.



#209 Blackoutjulian

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:14

Are Ferrari gaining 4 tenths on the straight? Seems not. Let's wait until tomorrow to see if the straight line speed is there.

Another Toto lie

#210 Shade

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:23

Comments for Ferrari domination in 3... 2... 1...



#211 Knowlesy

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:25

The performance levels on this circuit are different to what they were on a totally different circuit fortnight ago.

That must mean the people interpreting the evidence a couple of weeks ago were lying.

#212 statman

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:27

Wat the hell is this?

 

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#213 ANF

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:29

Racing Point's B-spec car.

Cute!

#214 Marklar

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:29

That's amazing https://twitter.com/...609926632095744



#215 statman

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:31

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:31

Truly awful Sky production today. Ted's role has become so diluted that he's become almost supernumerary. Too much split screen bullshit and far too much emphasis on Chandhok in the pitlane. Half of what was said in the commentary box was unintelligible because of Croft's insistence of talking over everybody. Total unadulterated tripe. The only decent thing about it was the trackside camera at turn 7, these cretins really need a competent director.

#217 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:33

The Softs really don't look good for Sunday. I think we'll see some Q2 chancers on the Mediums.



#218 SenorSjon

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:36

Wat the hell is this?

 

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Halo camouflage

 

The performance levels on this circuit are different to what they were on a totally different circuit fortnight ago.

That must mean the people interpreting the evidence a couple of weeks ago were lying.

 

Well, RB had mounted parts upside down in the factory they usually don't touch on race weekends. So they are into the fray again with one car. Also more flowing cars helping the RB.

 

 

 

Two onboards with loads of people?



#219 milestone 11

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:39

Two onboards with loads of people?


Switch on the audio to get the gist.

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#220 SenorSjon

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:39

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Those Merc soft runs were short and had cool down laps? They had more 'x'-ed laps.



#221 P123

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:42

Truly awful Sky production today. Ted's role has become so diluted that he's become almost supernumerary. Too much split screen bullshit and far too much emphasis on Chandhok in the pitlane. Half of what was said in the commentary box was unintelligible because of Croft's insistence of talking over everybody. Total unadulterated tripe. The only decent thing about it was the trackside camera at turn 7, these cretins really need a competent director.


Don't tend to watch FPs, but sounds like too many talking heads...

#222 milestone 11

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:44

Don't tend to watch FPs, but sounds like too many talking heads...


That, is essentially the problem. There are too many of them.

#223 wingwalker

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:49


So nice to see  :up: 



#224 TheGoldenStoffel

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:52

Don't tend to watch FPs, but sounds like too many talking heads...

 

Presenters and journalist these days think they are more important than things they are covering...



#225 thegforcemaybewithyou

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:58

The sidepods of the camouflage car look like a 2009 Force India.



#226 Maxioos

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:03

That's amazing https://twitter.com/...609926632095744


Well, he just raised again in my respect level! Good, I mean, great call.

#227 Maxioos

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:08

The Softs really don't look good for Sunday. I think we'll see some Q2 chancers on the Mediums.


I don't know. Midfield seems relative close, at least close enough to challenge the different between the tires. I think there are too much potential Q1 candidates to take that risk.

#228 Ivanhoe

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:13

I think there are too much potential Q1 candidates to take that risk.


There are 20 Q1 candidates, I dare to say even Williams might make it to Q1. Suppose you mean Q3 ;-)

#229 Maxioos

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:16

 

 
Well, RB had mounted parts upside down in the factory they usually don't touch on race weekends. So they are into the fray again with one car. Also more flowing cars helping the RB.


It's a mistake that should not have been possible. It are these small mistakes that cost points they can't afford to lose. It's not that difficult to engineer parts that way they only can be mounted right way. One small pin, screw place, etc. can secure that for instance. It should be a standard checkmark by developing/testing all such kind of car parts seems to me.

#230 Maxioos

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:20

There are 20 Q1 candidates, I dare to say even Williams might make it to Q1. Suppose you mean Q3 ;-)


I often keep making same mistakes. ;-) I even have doubt to check it or not, scrolled little up, wasn't on this page, thought, damn it, just take the guess.

Conformation, I should not start gambling, :-)

#231 SCUDmissile

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:45

What happened to the super grapefruits.

Toto talking RUBBISH as per

#232 Marklar

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:49

What happened to the super grapefruits.

Toto talking RUBBISH as per

But the grapefruits are from Horner!  :p 

Also it seems like Ferrari is again a couple of tenths quicker on the straights, so not rubbish per se. Could be of course different in qualifying though.



#233 SenorSjon

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 09:51

It's a mistake that should not have been possible. It are these small mistakes that cost points they can't afford to lose. It's not that difficult to engineer parts that way they only can be mounted right way. One small pin, screw place, etc. can secure that for instance. It should be a standard checkmark by developing/testing all such kind of car parts seems to me.

 

Ferrari messing up the cooling in Melbourne is a similar thing. Or Haas not having a mid-DF rear wing making them sitting ducks in Bahrain. This is prototype building, not monkeyproofing.



#234 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:01

I don't know. Midfield seems relative close, at least close enough to challenge the different between the tires. I think there are too much potential Q1 candidates to take that risk.


The fastest medium-tyre lap of FP2 was Hamilton's 1:34.226.

It would've put him 7th overall.

If Haas find some pace it really will be difficult, but it's definitely possible.

#235 steferrari

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:13

What happened to the super grapefruits.

Toto talking RUBBISH as per

 

It's only Friday... didn't Binotto admitted that in Bahrain's practice our engines were turned up a bit more than usual?



#236 StanBarrett2

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:14

What caused Grosjean's wing failure ? Did he run a curb too hard ?



#237 milestone 11

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:17

What caused Grosjean's wing failure ? Did he run a curb too hard ?

No, it failed on a circuit bump.



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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:18

What caused Grosjean's wing failure ? Did he run a curb too hard ?

 

no, it happened on a straight  :rotfl:

 

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#239 StanBarrett2

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:38

Thanks, looks like it just snapped



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#240 Danyy

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:46

That's amazing https://twitter.com/...609926632095744


Good man! Well done Seb!

#241 TheJammin

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:07

2 and a bit races into the season and I feel it's becoming more apparent that the diminishing gains on engines and the simplification of aero rules are working to close up the competitive order. I hope it encourages the rule makers to stay on this route, but knowing F1/FIA, they'll end up going the wrong direction rapidly.

 

Gone are the days where the top teams could make Q2/3 using the harder tyres comfortably.



#242 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:21

2 and a bit races into the season and I feel it's becoming more apparent that the diminishing gains on engines and the simplification of aero rules are working to close up the competitive order.

We'll have one great season next year and then they will change the rules all over again :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



#243 TheJammin

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:25

Yeah that's what I fear! I can just see it all coming together great next year and then it all gets washed away.

 

Play the long game F1... let the strategy play out!



#244 P123

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:37

What happened to the super grapefruits.

Toto talking RUBBISH as per


'Grapefruit' was mentioned by Horner, Ferrari were faster on the straights in Bahrain and appear to be making time on the straights in China again. Total laptime does involve those cornery bits too so, err...not Wolff talking rubbish, rather just a few reds on the AS BB jumping the gun and mouthing off at their favourite pin cushion!

#245 SCUDmissile

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:48

'Grapefruit' was mentioned by Horner, Ferrari were faster on the straights in Bahrain and appear to be making time on the straights in China again. Total laptime does involve those cornery bits too so, err...not Wolff talking rubbish, rather just a few reds on the AS BB jumping the gun and mouthing off at their favourite pin cushion!

Straight line speed =/= more power 100% of the time.

Also, it seems AMuS is more tabloid these days, talking a lot of unsubstantiated rumours and heresy, but maybe they always did that and more info means we notice it more.

Maybe it's because of increased demands for deadlines and content etc but a lot of clickbait and conjecture.

Edited by SCUDmissile, 12 April 2019 - 11:49.


#246 malibu

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:48

 

 

Vettel is a not the bad guy some people think, i remember him refusing to interfere in the rosberg/hamilton last race drama, i thought it was wise from him


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#247 Nonesuch

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:53

Vettel is a not the bad guy some people think, i remember him refusing to interfere in the rosberg/hamilton last race drama, i thought it was wise from him

 

In Abu Dhabi 2016? Vettel did attempt to overtake Rosberg, but it didn't work out. See here at 2:55

 



#248 Nemo1965

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:54

Truly awful Sky production today. Ted's role has become so diluted that he's become almost supernumerary. Too much split screen bullshit and far too much emphasis on Chandhok in the pitlane. Half of what was said in the commentary box was unintelligible because of Croft's insistence of talking over everybody. Total unadulterated tripe. The only decent thing about it was the trackside camera at turn 7, these cretins really need a competent director.

 

A question for English viewers: I find Croft even worse than Netherlands 'own' Jack Plooij, the commentating dentist. I know not one (1) Dutch fan who can even mildly appreciate Plooij. I also know that RTL always pooh-poohs criticism about Plooij. And he comes back year after year after year.

 

How is Croft seen, in general, in my eyes like Plooij's long lost twin? Can anyone stomach his nick-name Crofty, for example? 



#249 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 12:07

A question for English viewers: I find Croft even worse than Netherlands 'own' Jack Plooij, the commentating dentist. I know not one (1) Dutch fan who can even mildly appreciate Plooij. I also know that RTL always pooh-poohs criticism about Plooij. And he comes back year after year after year.

 

How is Croft seen, in general, in my eyes like Plooij's long lost twin? Can anyone stomach his nick-name Crofty, for example? 

I hate him.

 

Casual fans must like him because there's no way he could've survived thing long. But then again, SKY simply do not care about their customers. They have exclusive coverage, which is the only thing that matters.

 

Viewers don't like Croft? What are they going to do? Unsubscribe? :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Edited by TomNokoe, 12 April 2019 - 12:08.


#250 Grenville

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 12:13

Truly awful Sky production today. Ted's role has become so diluted that he's become almost supernumerary. Too much split screen bullshit and far too much emphasis on Chandhok in the pitlane. Half of what was said in the commentary box was unintelligible because of Croft's insistence of talking over everybody. Total unadulterated tripe. The only decent thing about it was the trackside camera at turn 7, these cretins really need a competent director.

Fully agree. With action on the track why does Croft think that anyone is the slightest bit interested in his 11 year old son's comments? I wish he would read his contract again and realise that the show is not all about David Croft. Incessant childish giggling and matey matey tripe talk is a far cry from professional commentating.