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#451 Regazzoni

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 15:42

Still in Sao Paulo, Interlagos. The circuit was opened on 12 May 1940.

The pictures show the stretch of track between the curva do Laranjinha, Ferradura, Pinheirinho (the left-hander in the middle) and Bico de Pato.

Dates of the older photos are unknown.

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#452 Regazzoni

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 10:36

The original Scuderia Ferrari headquarters in viale Ciro Menotti, Modena, 1929:

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The street changed name in 1932 and became viale Trento e Trieste, the building had a front roof added the same year:Trento-e-Trieste.jpg

This the location today, the building unfortunately not existing anymore:

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#453 BRG

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 16:55

The original Scuderia Ferrari headquarters in viale Ciro Menotti, Modena, 1929:

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And Ferrari had the gall to call the British teams 'garagistes'!  Enzo, you old hypocrite, you even had petrol pumps at your garage!



#454 Sterzo

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 11:19

Regazzoni and others have brought you pictures of exotic places taken long ago, but this is of the former Lotus showroom in the north London area of Hornsey. Here’s the fifties showroom building, complete with Elite.

 

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The following photo was taken yesterday, not by Maurice-Louis Branger, Corrado Millanta or Geoff Goddard but by me:

 

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Jewsons, builders merchants, applied in 2015 to demolish the showroom but the council denied permission after a campaign by locals to preserve it. To their credit, Jewsons have (as you can see) covered the windows with pictures acknowledging local history.

 

The stables where Chapman, Costin, Hill and others built the cars are, I believe, long gone. Could see no sign of them although this website suggests they exist. I’m not convinced.

http://www.colinchapmanmuseum.co.uk/

 

Chapman’s father was the publican at the Railway Hotel. hence using the stables to build Lotuses. The building is currently empty and looks as though it’s being converted to housing. In 2017 there was a plan to demolish it and build a tower block but that seems to have been abandoned.

 

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And another link for those who are interested:

https://hornseyhisto...ace-lotus-cars/



#455 Gary C

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 13:01

Goodness, back in 2013 (?), along with RTH we took a video camera and managed to get into Jewson's and film everywhere including the old drawing offices upstairs. Try as I might, I couldn't find anything Lotus related anywhere...and I even went into the cupboards and  behind them too. We went down the side of the building and filmed the small workshop on the immediate left and then further in to the car parks and other workshops. I've never used the video for anything but still have it.


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#456 Gary C

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 13:04

In regard Sao Paolo, when I worked for FOM and rigged the TV cameras for the Grand Prix (1997-2002) we always had a week at the circuit before the race and two days after before we came home. I must have done a couple of hundred laps of Interlagos in a VW bus, I think I still hold the lap record for one of those round there. But back then, all of the old circuit, and I mean the 1970's version was still there, although some of the grandstands had been built on it. Notably the first corner plus other stuff further round....it looked a fabulous track. Wasn't it John Watson who said that that version of Interlagos was one of his favourites?



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Posted 09 February 2020 - 17:44

Goodness, back in 2013 (?), along with RTH we took a video camera and managed to get into Jewson's and film everywhere including the old drawing offices upstairs. Try as I might, I couldn't find anything Lotus related anywhere...and I even went into the cupboards and  behind them too. We went down the side of the building and filmed the small workshop on the immediate left and then further in to the car parks and other workshops. I've never used the video for anything but still have it.

Workshops being the old stable block?



#458 Gary C

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Posted 09 February 2020 - 17:51

Yes I think that's right.

#459 Vitesse2

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 20:29

This turned up on my Facebook feed today. La Source in 1929 (the only year the Minervas ran in the 24 Hours). Signpost looks a bit smaller than the 1939 ones with Tazio and Dick, but could be the same one as in the first picture.

 

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La Source. Interesting to see how this curve has evolved, mainly due to the requirement to have start and pitlane not on a slope, as they were earlier after the curve.

 

This is the oldest I could find, the "carrefour" between the roads from Malmedy and Stavelot:

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This Tazio in the late '30s, perhaps 1939 (or not too far off):

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This is Seaman, on that 1939 fateful day. The corner seems exactly the same as in the Nuvolari photo.

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De Graffenried 1953:

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Moss 1956:

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Brabham 1960 and 1961:

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The Chaparral in the '60s:

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Today (2017):

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This seems a virtual reality view of the current situation [there is no google street view at the location]:

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I very much prefer when the pits were on the downhill side.