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#1 Doug Nye

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 14:24

A friend has asked me a minor-Formula Italian racing question I cannot answer.  

 

Can anyone provide any information on the Formula Monza CMR driven by Michele Alboreto at the dawn of his racing career, 1976-77?  Evidently he built it together with some like-minded friends - but it proved unsuccessful.  Any idea who those friends might have been - and what the initials CMR indicated?

 

I haven't any idea - and no time to trawl 'Autosprint' or similar to find out...expending it all presently pre-1910.

 

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#2 guiporsche

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 15:39

Hmm, probably not C.M.R. but maybe C.R.M. from Modena? Judging by the Italian press of the time they were a fairly common Formula Monza/875 make and it would make sense for Albo to buy one in 'kit car' form and build it. In 76 he also raced a 'Vargiu' (currently owned by his brother Ermanno, photo of the car in the link below) for Scuderia Salvati, organised in the memory of the late Giovanni Salvati.

 

https://www.500clubi...-monza-875-1963

 

And here's the Motorsport Memorial page on Salvati, which lists several names that probably helped Alboreto. No idea on what the CRM initials mean, though. Sorry that I could not be of much help. There's a book on Alboreto published by Fucina and authored by his brother that might fully answer your query, but I do not own it. Good luck!

 

"A couple of years after Salvati's death, an Italian racing team was founded in Desio, province of Milan, and named "Scuderia Giovanni Salvati" in his honor. Founders of the team were Vittorio Gargiulo, a journalist, and Adriano Salvati with a group of former Formula 875 Monza drivers and friends, including Pippo Cascone, Mario Simone Vullo, Pier Emilio Barlassina and Pippo Bianchi."

 

http://www.motorspor...php?db=ct&n=212



#3 StanBarrett2

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 15:54

CRM F Monza

http://www.ausoniasc...C.R.M.&prod=648



#4 Tim Murray

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 16:11

There’s a photo of the young Alboreto standing by a car, apparently the CMR, on this page:

http://jcspeedway2.b...oquino.html?m=1

and this photo is from an expired eBay listing. It claimed the photo was taken at the 1987 French GP:

https://encrypted-tb...FtrUI923NypjxyQ

1 x B&W photo

Date: 5/7/1987
Event: French Grand Prix, Paul Ricard
Subject: on his 100th Grand Prix, the Ferrari engineers present Michele Alboreto with his first racing car, the home-built CMR Formula Monza, re-liveried in Scuderia Ferrari colours

Photographer/Agency: International Press Agency
Size: 18 x 12.5cm

The problem here is that the 1987 French GP was only Alboreto’s 97th Grand Prix ...

#5 StanBarrett2

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 16:21

There’s a photo of the young Alboreto standing by a car, apparently the CMR, on this page:

http://jcspeedway2.b...oquino.html?m=1
 

Some of it translates............

 

 

Michele Alboreto was born on December 23, 1956 in the city of Milan, a few kilometers from the Autodrome of Monza, sanctuary of races in Italy. Coming from a family passionate about running, since 12 years the little Michele would see their idols run on Monza, especially Ronnie Peterson, his great childhood idol that even inspired the color of the helmet. Alboreto, however, started relatively late in motorsport and in a way, at least, oddly. Student in a technical drawing course, Michele Alboreto and some friends built a small racing car to a local category, the so-called F-Monza in 1976 and Michele eventually called the car racer as CMR. Without experience in building racing cars, Alboreto and his friends didn't get much success, but Michele decided to embrace driving (as a child Italian also wanted to play football) and in 1977 it goes to a more structured team, Scuderia Salvatti and Alboreto to improve their performance. Alboreto 1978 graduates at F-Italy, with more powerful cars, and the first victories seem to continue to rise Italian point in driving and get into F3 in 1979. With a team Euroracing in March Alboreto participates in the European Championship and the Italian F3 wins three wins in the local event, but is overtaken by Piercarlo Ghinzani and gets second place. Even without victories in the continental event, with the championship ending in 6, Alboreto in early 1980 as the favorite and winning the European Championship with five wins. This would open several doors for the young Italian. the Scuderia Salvatti and Alboreto are starting to improve their performance. Alboreto 1978 graduates at F-Italy, with more powerful cars, and the first victories appear to Italian point continue to rise in driving steps and get into F3 in 1979.


Edited by StanBarrett2, 29 April 2019 - 16:23.


#6 nexfast

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 21:46

Some other photos here:

 

https://www.0-100.it...chele-alboreto/



#7 Michael Ferner

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 14:11

Half a year or so ago, I "dipped a toe" into the multitude of Italian sub-F 3 formulae, finding the nucleus of a career for many future stars. I thought I'd seen early results for Alboreto, too, but upon checking I find I didn't. Anyway, I guess guiporsche is right, and that it was a CRM, rather than a CMR. Earliest results for CRM I have are from 1970, the first year I researched, so maybe they were around even earlier. Alboreto was 13 then, so I doubt he had any input into the design or building of the CRM. Maybe he built a CRM kit car, or maybe the story is just that: a myth that is repeated so often that people start to believe without checking. Unfortunately, that seems to be the (internet) standard these days.

#8 Regazzoni

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 18:14

Alboreto bought a Vargiu – a Formula Monza chassis with a 500cc engine, built by former local driver Paolo Vargiu – together with a close friend from Rozzano di Milano, their hometown, Alberto Hertel. Some cross checking would give the car as a 1973 model, not certain, by all scant accounts quite out of pace with the best of the field. Another one who supported him from the start was his younger brother Ermanno Alboreto.

CRM were more in fashion in the ‘60s in Formula Monza. By 1977 there were no CRM chassis in the Formula Monza standings. He may have tested a much older chassis, as per the photo in here, claimed to be taken in 1976 (there is also a picture in the Vargiu he raced):

https://www.veloceto...life-in-photos/

Also, the link in post n. 2 above, which claims Alboreto’s car was from 1963 is a clear mistake, both as a date 1963 doesn’t make sense in the context and the car in the picture is clearly a ‘70s car, the Formula Monza of the ‘60s having a more cigar-shaped bodywork, in tune with the times. In fact, that car looks exactly like this and the one in my previous link:

https://www.liveauct...47977738_vargiu

I can’t find details about 1976, but in 1977 he scored 2 points in the championship, out of four races it is claimed he started. He then went on to race in Formula Italia in 1978, coming fourth with 28 points, one win and four podiums.

https://www.driverdb...ior-monza/1977/

This is a curiosity. One “Michele Alboreto” from Rozzano (province of Milan), wrote a letter to Autosprint, published on the n.32 in 1974, page 56, two years before he started racing.

 35037-as743256-57-Albo.jpg



#9 Ray Bell

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 01:15

And for those whose Italian isn't so good...

Is there any chance of an interpretation?

#10 Regazzoni

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 19:21

The context of the letter is a polemic around Alfa Romeo and Merzario in the 1974 WSC they were losing to Matra. Alboreto, the genuine good boy he was, was making a plea to move on and then, in the second part of the (edited, as published) letter, he made compliments to the magazine about the way they had covered the news related to Alfa Romeo.

To Autosprint, in particular to its editor-in-chief Marcello Sabbatini, you couldn’t touch their Merzario, or incur in their wrath, which after a while became tiresome.

Quote from Alboreto’s Wiki entry:

Michele Alboreto started his career in 1976 racing in Formula Monza with a car he and his friends built, known as the "CMR".[1] The car itself proved to be uncompetitive and in 1978 Alboreto, now in a more competitive March, moved over to Formula Italia where he began to take race wins.

That one could race in Formula Italia with a March is news. I think whoever wrote his entry is a bit confused, and I believe that is where the some of the misunderstanding about in which car he started racing comes from.



#11 Regazzoni

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 20:23

This is a story taken from an Italian forum, www.gpx.it , and it’s too good to pass up. I understand Ermanno Alboreto quoted it in the book he wrote about his brother. I took the liberty to translate and post it.

Once upon a time, at Monza, the driveway that led to the gate of the track. The driveway is still there (although it looks like the entrance to Alcatraz), what is missing is the gate.


The gate keeper was a grumpy guy, he looked at you and always seemed pissed off. Like the gate, he stayed there for years and years, an institution, then together with the gate and the surrounding towers (ugly but which were a piece of history) he was swept away.

 

As I said, the caretaker was rude and gruff, but we called him Saint Peter because he was the one who opened the gate to you when we decided to make a run on the track with our everyday car. We stopped the car next to it, rigorously with the engine running, and went to the Management office to deliver the driving license and sign the liability discharge form, in which we committed ourselves to pay the tow truck and all the damage caused to the circuit in case of accident.


Ah yes, the engine was left on because at that time almost all cars had cast iron cylinders and alloy pistons and heads. Two different thermal expansion coefficients: it is no coincidence that the greater number of seizures on the motorway took place a couple of kilometers after the Autogrill. And yes, in those years one could still seize.


Well, I was talking of Saint Peter. If at the hundredth and one time you met him he would speak to you, it meant that he no longer considered you an intruder, one who went there to try something different just to waste time, but he understood that there was some passion. Then you discovered a totally different person: a strange hermit or poet who lived his whole life at the gates of Paradise, opening the door to the drivers and drawing passion from their passion.


"All heroes, those who go in there are all heroes! Listen, listen to Luigi (Colzani). He always pulls like a beast, whatever he has under his ass, always gives his best. I saw him with the GTA, with the RS, even with the 128 and next year he’s going with the sportscars. Imagine, with the Alfone (the 2600 Sprint) he kept up with the GTAs: sometimes he takes the Curvone flat, sometimes I bring him back with the tow truck." And twisted his mustache into what for him was a laugh. [perhaps it’s the other way around, the GTAs kept up with the big Alfas - my note]


"Listen to this!" ,and I prick up my ears: a Formula Monza is passing, a "spetecchina". [LOL]


"Listen now how he downshifts to enter the Junior!", and I listen [the Junior track].


"This one is good. This one will go far!"

 

Then he turns around, gets inside and closes the gate. Yes, because with him we always spoke there on the threshold: he inside and you outside.

 

I spend some time smoking a cigarette. The gate opens, and the small car comes out. He wants to turn left where there are the old pits, those paved with porphyry cubes taken from the two Curvette when they were replaced by the Parabolica. He tries, but I am in the middle and then stops: he has the helmet on his lap, hair wavy and long, eyes lively and sincere.

 

"Sorry" I say, and he smiles.

 

"What's your name?"

 

"Michele".

 

"Michele and then?"

 

"Alboreto, Michele Alboreto. Why?"

 

"Saint Peter says you will become someone."

 

He smiles, I step aside, and he restarts with that little twin-cylinder sound.