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Poll: Formula E Season 6 [2019/2020] Official Thread (53 member(s) have cast votes)

What are you looking forward the most for S5?

  1. Porsche & Mercedes fighting for the title! (13 votes [24.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.53%

  2. Porsche & Mercedes NOT fighting for the title! (11 votes [20.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.75%

  3. New drivers, new faces, new battles! (4 votes [7.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.55%

  4. New Locations! (7 votes [13.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.21%

  5. Night Race! (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Just give me back Formula E! (18 votes [33.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.96%

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#401 f1paul

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 18:09

Not if the F2 field is crap, you took years to win and your biggest weakness happens to be the thing that counts the most in F1 (and probably in F1 only to that extent).

I wouldn't call it 'crap' it's just that last year's field was really good that it feels much worse than it probably is.

 

2012 and 2013 in GP2 were probably similar qualify to 2019 and there's still a few drivers in both of those years who should have got a chance in F1.

 

If Latifi can get a shot in F1, De Vries definitely should too.

 

Edit: Thinking about it, this F2 field is pretty average and most seasons are probably similar or even worse quality


Edited by f1paul, 11 September 2019 - 18:56.


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#402 f1paul

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 18:11

So who is the tp?

 

Someone called Ian James.

 

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#403 thegamer23

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 18:49

Merc suit! 
 

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#404 Ben1445

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 19:03

Merc suit! 
 

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Vestas! 

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#405 Vielleicht

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 19:12

This first review of FE documentary 'And We Go Green' was positive...
 
https://jalopnik.com...dium=socialflow
 

"I was consistently impressed by what I saw. The cinematography was breathtaking. The utilization of music and soundtrack was perfect. The crafting of the plot, the interviews, the behind-the-scenes moments, and the use of race footage worked so damn well."
 
"Overall, And We Go Green is an exceptional movie. I can see it being a great introduction to FE for race fans who have yet to give the series a chance, for non-racing fans who are interested in some of the more out-there uses of eco-friendly tech, and even for hardcore FE fans who want a deeper dive into the sport they love. In my eyes, it was more effective than Drive to Survive, which I also adored in spite of its flaws. If you like that show, you’ll definitely like this."



#406 Muppetmad

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 19:45

It all sounds very positive, except for the clearly unnecessary overuse of footage from Bianchi's accident.



#407 Marklar

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 19:51

 

 Vergne is so emotional that he can’t even talk about Bianchi’s death and even gets up and leaves the interview to compose himself. To me, it felt a little distasteful to then show the accident in full.

I thought that one is locked away for the public.



#408 zanquis

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 20:27

Not if the F2 field is crap, you took years to win and your biggest weakness happens to be the thing that counts the most in F1 (and probably in F1 only to that extent).

 


He took too long, but: 2017 was his debut year, that was dominated by Leclerc. Nobody came close 2018 Russel was superb, behind him Albon, de Vries and Norris where all just as fast. IMHO Norris was the slowest of the top 4 but as you can see, he is doing great in F1. de Vries is worthy of F1 as much as those where. But you are right that he doesn't have any real competition left cause the little competition he has (Ghiotto and Latifi) have way more experience and they might get beaten by Aitken in his second year. That said you are right, tires are de Vries his weakness, but that doesn't seem to be a problem in FE. They seem to be a bit less grippy and de Vries imho does pretty well under those conditions. Would be nice to see if he can maybe fight for the title and then go to F1 to turn the trend around of FE being an F1 reject zone. THat is something imho needs to happen to increase the championship status. As good as the drivers are they are either ex-F1 drivers or drivers that weren't good enough to go forward in GP2/F2.

#409 thegamer23

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 12:09

ABB FIA Formula E claims to have expanded its revenues to over €200 million during 2018/19, which the championship says is an increase of more than 50% compared to 2017/18.

https://www.autospor...evenue-increase

 

:up:  :up:  :up:


Edited by thegamer23, 12 September 2019 - 12:10.


#410 Vielleicht

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 12:37

ABB FIA Formula E claims to have expanded its revenues to over €200 million during 2018/19, which the championship says is an increase of more than 50% compared to 2017/18.

https://www.autospor...evenue-increase

Good to hear!

 

These are some interesting numbers:

 

- 72% of followers aged under 35

- 42%of videos viewed by fans under the age of 25

 

The aiming at a yong audience seems to be paying off.



#411 Imateria

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 12:50

I wouldn't call it 'crap' it's just that last year's field was really good that it feels much worse than it probably is.

 

2012 and 2013 in GP2 were probably similar qualify to 2019 and there's still a few drivers in both of those years who should have got a chance in F1.

 

If Latifi can get a shot in F1, De Vries definitely should too.

 

Edit: Thinking about it, this F2 field is pretty average and most seasons are probably similar or even worse quality

F2/GP2 has had several champions that had been in the series for 3 or 4 years (Pantano, Maldonado, Valsecchi, Leimer and Palmer off the top of my head) and none of them have been considered particularly good. The general concensus seems to be that if it takes a driver more than a single year to learn the ropes and build themselves up to a title challenge in their second year then that driver has notable shortcommings.

 

Latifi might be getting a shot at F1, but I'd be surprised if he ends up much better than Palmer, and I'd say the same about De Vries as well.



#412 zanquis

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 11:21

F2/GP2 has had several champions that had been in the series for 3 or 4 years (Pantano, Maldonado, Valsecchi, Leimer and Palmer off the top of my head) and none of them have been considered particularly good. The general concensus seems to be that if it takes a driver more than a single year to learn the ropes and build themselves up to a title challenge in their second year then that driver has notable shortcommings.

 

Latifi might be getting a shot at F1, but I'd be surprised if he ends up much better than Palmer, and I'd say the same about De Vries as well.

 


To be fair, de Vries did as much of a title challange as Albon and Norris, the difference in the end result was minimal and mechanical problems that didn't seem to struck Norris while it was troubling almost everyone last year helped Norris greatly. Luckily that is fixed this year as mechanical problems seem to have been very few.

#413 zanquis

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 11:24

I would love to see as a one-off promotional event an invitation race where the teams can invite one-off drivers with repuatation in their own fields. Mercedes could invite for instance Hamilton. maybe some drivers from USA, Nascar and Indy as well. Some of these drivers are not always that flattering about Formula E and I think an experience in the car would help greatly.

#414 Ben1445

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 15:27

Just noticed it’s 5 years today since Beijing 2014, FE’s first ever race

#415 balage06

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 16:23

Just noticed it’s 5 years today since Beijing 2014, FE’s first ever race

 

Yeah, I saw a picture from the first ever grid yesterday and some faces I could barely recognize anymore... FE has come a long way.



#416 thegamer23

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 18:30

Just noticed it’s 5 years today since Beijing 2014, FE’s first ever race


And the FE channel uploads the full race!

 

Apart from the dramatic ending, that was such a solid race to start the serie, with plenty of battles & clean racing.

And a lot of us were already there, commentating

I quite liked Beijing as a track too, shame it's gone so soon. (Season 2 track config was even better).


Edited by thegamer23, 13 September 2019 - 21:00.


#417 Vielleicht

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 21:16

It's come a long way. Back then it was new and scrappy and failure was always just round the corner. Nearly collapsed more than once. Hope rode high but so did the skepticism and criticism.

 

Scroll forward to 2019 and it's got some of the biggest names in racing, the younger demographics are engaging as planned and it has turned it's first pre-tax profit.

 

Been a privalage to watch it mature if you ask me.

 

Happy 5th Anniversary Formula E. Here's to the next five years. 



#418 Vielleicht

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Posted 15 September 2019 - 20:11

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#419 Ben1445

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 07:25

Sounds ominous. 



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#420 thegamer23

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 08:53

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Mmmmm sounds promising.

My bet?
Riyadh's Night Race Opener to be announced. 


Edited by thegamer23, 16 September 2019 - 08:54.


#421 Ben1445

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 12:21

Looks like the first piece of news is the FE has a new CEO (Agag has shifted to the role of chairman) 
 
The new guy is the former 'executive vice president of business operations' for the Los Angeles Rams NFL team, as well as a stint at the Manchester United football team. He joined the FE operation earlier this year. 

Reigle Confirmed as New Formula E CEO
http://e-racing365.c...-formula-e-ceo/
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“I’m delighted and honored to be charged with leading Formula E through its next phase of development,” said Reigle.

“I’ve followed the championship from inception and admired the global sports platform Alejandro and his team has created in short order.

“I’m eager to plug in and work with Alejandro to continue to develop Formula E as the most exciting series in motorsport and a platform for the potential of the future of electric vehicles and sustainable mobility.”



#422 RSRally

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 19:35

Techeetah driver announcement tomorrow apparently.

#423 Anja

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 19:56

Oh jeez, I wonder who's it gonna be  :stoned:



#424 RSRally

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Posted 16 September 2019 - 20:09

Oh jeez, I wonder who's it gonna be :stoned:


I kinda presumed it already had been but apparently not..

#425 thegamer23

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 11:49

DA COSTA TO TECHEETAH!

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#426 Vielleicht

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 12:20

WOW that suprise has knocked the wind out of me...



#427 messy

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 12:34



To be fair, de Vries did as much of a title challange as Albon and Norris, the difference in the end result was minimal and mechanical problems that didn't seem to struck Norris while it was troubling almost everyone last year helped Norris greatly. Luckily that is fixed this year as mechanical problems seem to have been very few.

 

Nah, I know you've posted this in the F2 thread too but I've gotta disagree there, Russell, Albon and Norris were the clear class of the field in 2018 and that's why they're all in F1 now. Maybe De Vries was as fast on his day, but for so many reasons it took him until the summer to join the dots. 

 

Given that it was his second year (third in the second tier as he had a year in FR3.5 too) and that he was in a Prema, I don't think 2018 will go down as a classic when he's looking back over his career. Alongside his ill-fate drop to GP3 in 2016.

 

But on the flipside, in 2017 (driving for middling teams) and 2019, he's barely put a foot wrong. But one difficult season can be the difference between F1 and not. I've always followed De Vries a bit and expected him to be the next cab off the ranks for McLaren but he's had one dodgy season too many. 


Edited by messy, 17 September 2019 - 12:37.


#428 potmotr

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 12:44

 

 

And the award for most literal photo goes to..!  :clap:



#429 potmotr

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 12:48

Brave move of Da Costa to leave BMW for this deal.



#430 Ben1445

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 12:55

Well now the cat is officially out of the bag (ba-dum-tish)

 

(sorry) 

 

Will be a very interesting paring I think. 



#431 thegamer23

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 13:10



New 20 + min episode of Street Racers, covering also the Porsche presentation


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#432 Anja

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 13:15

Brave move of Da Costa to leave BMW for this deal.

 

Yeah, he definitely set a tough challenge for himself with that move but he also cited the need for more freedom as one of the reasons to leave BMW. I guess being a factory driver isn't everything...

 

https://e-racing365....-for-bmw-split/



#433 Imateria

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 13:59

Yeah, he definitely set a tough challenge for himself with that move but he also cited the need for more freedom as one of the reasons to leave BMW. I guess being a factory driver isn't everything...

 

https://e-racing365....-for-bmw-split/

He's still a factory driver though, just with DS this time.



#434 zanquis

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:02

Nah, I know you've posted this in the F2 thread too but I've gotta disagree there, Russell, Albon and Norris were the clear class of the field in 2018 and that's why they're all in F1 now. Maybe De Vries was as fast on his day, but for so many reasons it took him until the summer to join the dots.

Given that it was his second year (third in the second tier as he had a year in FR3.5 too) and that he was in a Prema, I don't think 2018 will go down as a classic when he's looking back over his career. Alongside his ill-fate drop to GP3 in 2016.

But on the flipside, in 2017 (driving for middling teams) and 2019, he's barely put a foot wrong. But one difficult season can be the difference between F1 and not. I've always followed De Vries a bit and expected him to be the next cab off the ranks for McLaren but he's had one dodgy season too many.


Norris was in the spotlight because he won the first race (his only win) and enjoyed an extremely long streak of good luck while all his other rivals would hit trouble.

Experience wise, de Vries might have had more time in the F2, Norris had more races then any of the top drivers, he came very well prepared. All series add up, sure higher weigh a bit more but Norris had a very intensive pre F2 build up. More than any driver I have ever seen, it seems he drove every series he could to build up experience fast.

He is doing good now, but nothing indicates that de Vries could not do just as well. The speed was there and this season he is demonstrating more consistancy. (Still too hard on the tires sometimes, but much better)

Anyway I think he will do fine in FE and it would be good for the series IF for once a driver would progress to F1 instead of being a collection of F1 rejects and retiree’s.
It would elevate the level of Formula E imho.

#435 Vielleicht

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 08:34

For me there's just so many factors to consider that I think it is actually very hard to judge drivers through junior ladders. I think the F1 driver market has a bit of a sub-culture of obsessing over the good-out-of-the-box protegé and passing over the promising drivers who could turn into superstars with more expeirence and the right backing.

 

When I see De Vries' driving record I see a very competant racer. I don't see an F1 reject and I think a Mercedes Factory FE drive is a perfectly respectable career move.

 

Anyway I think he will do fine in FE and it would be good for the series IF for once a driver would progress to F1 instead of being a collection of F1 rejects and retiree’s.
It would elevate the level of Formula E imho.

FE's Gen1 has already given Rosenqvist enough exposure to make a leap to IndyCar. And Albon was signed to drive in FE before being extracted from his contract for an F1 seat (which only half counts).

 

Ultimately, I think it might actually harm the series image to have too many young drivers come in and then leave for F1 (or elsewhere). To be any sort of feeder to F1 immediately makes it a second-tier ladder step rather than a destination in it's own right, which I think it really needs to be. Besides, the skillset for racing these FE cars is quite different and if you master it you could be in high demand and negotiate very enviable salaries.

 

I would ultimately like to see young drivers coming into FE, making their name here and staying to defend their titles rather than moving on to other things. I think that would raise the profile the most for me.



#436 Vielleicht

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 07:53



#437 FredrikB

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 08:47

Big news...(big picture i mean)

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#438 thegamer23

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 08:50

Maybe we'll get the circuit layout too! 



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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:02

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#440 Ben1445

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:06

Circuit near the national monument, they say... 

 

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#441 FredrikB

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:12

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#442 Ben1445

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:12

That does't look half bad!!  :clap:



#443 FredrikB

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:12

Jakarta E-Prix Confirmed; Berlin and New York to Move

https://e-racing365....w-york-to-move/



#444 Vielleicht

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:19

Looks like a decent layout. Sweeping corners, long straights and heaving braking. Also, those roads are wide.



#445 FredrikB

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:44

Looks like a decent layout. Sweeping corners, long straights and heaving braking. Also, those roads are wide.

 

Just looked at them in Google maps. The narrowest part is a four lane road... 



#446 thegamer23

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:46

I quite like it!
Maybe some of the chicanes are unnecessary, but the fast bits looks interesting!  

 

Also, super wide!!  :up:  :up:

I think it will have a Santiago of Chile (the new one) feel to it


Edited by thegamer23, 20 September 2019 - 09:47.


#447 Ben1445

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:49

Only bit I'm not so keen on by first inspection is the 11-12-13 bit at the end of the lap.

 

I hope turns 1, 6 and 10 though are like New York's last turn though, because FE cars are great through long sweepers with their low grip and low downforce. 

 

The width is great news  :up:



#448 M66R

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 13:16

It's odd that all of the news stories that had that circuit layout as a photo have all reverted to a generic shot of Jakarta

#449 Vielleicht

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 17:21

It's odd that all of the news stories that had that circuit layout as a photo have all reverted to a generic shot of Jakarta

It is a bit. Maybe it's not finalised yet.



#450 RSRally

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 18:11

I think last season should teach us not to judge a circuit until the cars are actually on the track. Sanya looked promising but was a bit disappointing from a racing point of view whilst Bern was a nice track ruined by those stupid chicanes.