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#1 Peat

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 07:02

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As children all over the world have drummed into them at school, there are 5 types of triangle – Equilateral, Isosceles, Scalene, Acute, Obtuse and TRICKY.

 

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Nestled deep in the Quaker state, the 3 individual turns of Pocono make a unique challenge for drivers and engineers alike. A ‘Tricky Triangle’, if you will.

The Foyt-esque folklore of such a configuration being that you can only optimise your car for 1 of the corners, so different cars will have varying strengths and weaknesses around the lap. However, in the simulation-age, everyone arrives at the same conclusion pretty quickly and the result is a 190mph train of cars all excelling and sucking in the same places.

Obscure funfanfact: The races title sponsor, ABC (ABC Supply 500), also sponsor 2 cars in the field. I have never actually seen them, but I am assured they exist and circulate the track at the same time as the other cars. 

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After an incomprehensibly long in-season break of 20 days sans IndyCar (The worst since the great drought of late April) there will be a flurry of 3 races in 14 days. Then, sadly, just a SINGLE race will remain of the 2019 NTT Data IndyCar season before our champion is crowned and committed to the Wikipedia page. Thankfully, 2020 silly season has been in full swing with a papaya grenade launched into the midfield driver market thanks to the arrival/non-hostile takeover of Arrow McSchmidt. But anyway, 2019:

The Championship:

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4 Drivers remain in very realistic contention of glory, 2 of which are Young® & American®. Season-long points leader, 2017 Champion JJNewJive, is left hanging by a thread (that’s 16 points in IndyCar terms – I still don’t understand the scoring system after all these years) after a disastrous final lap lunge on RHR in Lexington, Ohio (which still netted him 17 points – I DON’T UNDERSTAND!!!!). Luckily for him, his nearest rival, AlexANDER Rossi, was having one of his semi-regular ‘quiet afternoons’ and only reduced the gap by 13 points.

Not far behind are newly qualified Formula One flag waver, Simon Pagenaud :wave: , and the INEVITABLE Scott Dixon :smoking: . Pagenaud has upgraded his performance of the last 2 seasons of anonymity and replaced it with more anonymity with a smattering of isolated domination. One such occasion being the Indy500 which netted him a useful double points bonus, which frankly, has been the only thing (bar Toronto) keeping him in contention. However, he was won on a natural terrain road-course, a Superspeedway and a street circuit in 2019. 2/3 of those make up 3/4 of the remaining races, so he’s still a credible threat.

Scott Dixon scored 93 points less than Pagenaud over the month of May, yet is only 15 behind in the overall standings. At only 62 points behind Newgarden, you’d be a fool to write off Dixon stealthing his way to another championship. But, with 2 of the final 4 races being ovals, you have to wonder how much help he’ll get out of his young punty team-mate, Relix Frozenquest, in taking points away from his rivals.

 

 

Last Time @ Pocono:

From what I recall of the actual green flag race, it was dominated by Alexander Rossi while the rest of the field circulated in awe. Indeed, BAH (Butterball Andretti Honda) in general had a strong showing with all 3 finishing cars in the top 7. Yes, EVEN Marco Andretti!  :stoned: 

 

Sadly, the race will forever be etched into the memory due to the gruesome accident of Robert Wickens in the early going. That crash, added to the tragic loss of Justin Wilson in 2015 makes this weekend a difficult and unpalatable prospect for some drivers and fans alike. That the series future at the track hangs in the balance - no race confirmed for 2020 onwards and only a dusting of spectators visible in the stands each year – may come as a relief for some.

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So, without further a due, let us ‘bring the-championship shaping-action’ and BLAST OFF into 500 enthralling miles of POCONO!

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Your Weather:

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see also:
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Your Schedule:

Saturday: Qualifications     1230 – 1345 ET (1730 BST)

Sunday: RACE     1445 – 1745 ET (1945 BST)

 



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#2 red stick

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:33

No Right triangle?

Pythagoreans everywhere

must lodge a protest.

 

  :smoking:


Edited by red stick, 15 August 2019 - 10:46.


#3 maximilian

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:47

No Right triangle?

Pythagoreans everywhere

must lodge a protest.

 

  :smoking:

 

This is IndyCar, we don't turn right on triangles!   ;)



#4 Frood

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:52

Imma start a petition to build a new speedway with an extra corner. The Prickly Pentagon is coming!

#5 Peat

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:54

Nazareth always confused me, It always seemed like it had about 5 corners. 

But nay, 'just' 3. 



#6 PayasYouRace

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 11:04

Imma start a petition to build a new speedway with an extra corner. The Prickly Pentagon is coming!


You could have something like Texas but with two kinks on both straights and have a Hexagon.

#7 Youichi

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 11:16

You could have something like Texas but with two kinks on both straights and have a Hexagon.

 

If you are counting the Texas kinks, then counting the dog-leg on the back straight at Pheonix makes 5.



#8 messy

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 11:19

I love Pocono, I’ve just about forgiven it for 2015 now.

I love the fact it has bushes and trees instead of massive grandstands.

#9 PayasYouRace

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 11:36

If you are counting the Texas kinks, then counting the dog-leg on the back straight at Pheonix makes 5.


By the method I was using (continuous turns counted once) I count 3 for Phoenix.

#10 maximilian

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 13:18

Lovely OP, by the way!

 

Scott Dixon looks like a young Auric Goldfinger!  :lol:



#11 SenorSjon

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 13:33

Will we see flowers in front of one of the wallcams again? ;)



#12 paulb

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 14:29

Rossi will be unrecognizable in non-NAPA livery, but the Pinball is back in green.

I’m with you, Peat, the Indycar points system can be a tad generous.

Thanks for the OP, that photo is tremendous.

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#13 maximilian

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 15:00

Basically they need to shave 10 points off the entire points system.  It's a bit silly when they talk about 50 points being up for grabs, when last place usually gets 6-8 points just for starting the race.  A nice reform would be to use a Top-20 points system (with 30 to the winner and a point for 20th), which could be expanded to a Top-33 for the Indy 500 (with 60 points to the winner, and a point to 33rd).  Wouldn't that make more sense?  (oh yeah, and scrap the season ending double points, unless it's another 500 mile oval).


Edited by maximilian, 15 August 2019 - 15:06.


#14 Peat

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 16:07

It's the getting points for a DNF that razzes me.

You're out. Done. Over. You shouldn't get 34% of the points the winner gets when you're wading through the gravel away from your stranded car.



#15 LucaP

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 16:28

In the first picture it looks like a train of cars is going to hit the "what turn 4" wall head on lol. Was that intentional?

Edited by Luca Pacchiarini, 15 August 2019 - 16:30.


#16 loki

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 17:57

Looks like Thurman Merman is in fourth...



#17 Anja

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 18:24

It's the getting points for a DNF that razzes me.

You're out. Done. Over. You shouldn't get 34% of the points the winner gets when you're wading through the gravel away from your stranded car.

 

Agreed. And since we're on the DNF topic it always kind of bothers me how the cars can be started up and pushed out on the track by the marshals. I really prefer the F1 approach where the car has to complete a race under its own power. 



#18 prommer

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 18:28

Great OP-eat! I'm mesmerized by inevitable chubby young Dixon...

 

I'm no math major, but it seems to me if you guys keep adding corners to ovals, your... inevitable... result is the Corona, California street race.

 

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(I would love to know what kind of right-side tire compound Firestone would come up with if they actually ran this race again)



#19 jonpollak

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 19:46

Is that a board track?
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#20 king_crud

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 20:23

A 12 year old Dixon looks like a 30 year old Tracy

#21 Collombin

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 20:53

Is that a board track?
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No.

#22 PayasYouRace

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 21:12

Great OP-eat! I'm mesmerized by inevitable chubby young Dixon...
 
I'm no math major, but it seems to me if you guys keep adding corners to ovals, your... inevitable... result is the Corona, California street race.
 
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(I would love to know what kind of right-side tire compound Firestone would come up with if they actually ran this race again)


Or Langhorne raceway.

#23 Collombin

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 21:52

Or the board tracks at Playa Del Rey and the little one at Oakland.

#24 maximilian

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 22:52

On the subjects of turns/corners, how about a track with NO turns at all.  I always thought that it would be fun to hold an IndyCar race at Nardo!  :cool:

 

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#25 Frood

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 23:15

On the subjects of turns/corners, how about a track with NO turns at all. I always thought that it would be fun to hold an IndyCar race at Nardo! :cool:


No turns, or an infinite number of infinitesimally small turns?

#26 Anja

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 23:19

I'd say it's just one turn that simply never ends. 



#27 prommer

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 01:51

I'd say it's just one turn that simply never ends. 

 

WHAT TURN 2?



#28 rghojai

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 01:56

Looks like Thurman Merman is in fourth...

 

 

Is Jim driving?



#29 maximilian

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 02:45

No turns, or an infinite number of infinitesimally small turns?

 

No turn.  The lanes are banked to allow you to go flat at certain speeds without steering input needed, although IndyCars would exceed that speed... so they might need a bit "built into" the steering.  ;)



#30 teejay

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 05:45

That young Dixon pic though! 

 

Lets go Monty!

 

In his absence, lets go Rossi. 



#31 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 06:15

No turn.  The lanes are banked to allow you to go flat at certain speeds without steering input needed, although IndyCars would exceed that speed... so they might need a bit "built into" the steering.  ;)


Indycars already have stagger on the ovals to reduce the steering input in the turns. You see the drivers having to hold the steering to the right on the straights.

#32 Peat

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 07:44

Apropos of nothing, your championship contenders passed through (twice) your favorite russian face melting app:

 

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#33 Frood

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 10:18

I thought Dixon was George H. W. Bush for a second.

#34 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 11:08

They do look like a selection of Spitting Image puppets.

#35 maximilian

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 11:30

The Young American is unrecognizable!



#36 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 11:31

The Young American is unrecognizable!


Because he’s now the Old American?

#37 Lotus72b

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 13:04

Apropos of nothing, your championship contenders passed through (twice) your favorite russian face melting app:

 

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OMG, Really!!!!!! :rotfl:



#38 paulb

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 13:13

If I squint, “old” Rossi looks like Sean Connery.

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 13:19

Almost done packing my bags and getting on the highway. A quick little story, I was at Watkins Glen for the Six Hours. So I was at a display between the practice sessions. Then I notice someone at the BMW souviner stand. That's Colton Herta!!!! So we talk for a couple of minutes and told congrats for his win at COTA. Then he notice my IndyCar laynard keychain and figure out right away I'm a IndyCar fan. I had no marker or pen to sign anything with, but I should've took a selfie with him. Maybe this weekend. This is my fourth race this year. 1st-Supercross at MetLife stadium, 2nd-IMSA at Watkins Glen, 3rd-Formula E in NYC (Sat), & 4th-IndyCar at Pocono. Hope for a safe race and exciting race. Catch you crazies later this weekend. Later!!!!



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#40 Frood

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 13:46

If I squint, “old” Rossi looks like Sean Connery.


And Newjive looks like a happy version of the Emperor from Star Wars.

#41 king_crud

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 16:33

Newgarden looks like my deceased grandmother

#42 jonpollak

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 17:26

If I squint, “old” Rossi looks like Sean Connery.


I was gonna say Dave Despain.
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Posted 16 August 2019 - 17:52

Did Pagenaud play guitar on The Chain?

#44 B Squared

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 18:04

Newgarden looks like my deceased grandmother

Before or after her passing?

#45 Alan Lewis

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 20:29

IndyCar drivers never die, they just become Klingons?...

#46 boomn

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 20:42

old Rossi is giving me a little "Life Aquatic" vibe

 

and what happened to old Dixon's eyes?!


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Posted 16 August 2019 - 20:46

As excited as I am to have Laguna back this year, and as hopeful as I'm trying to be about the racing quality there... I can only imagine the tension and excitement if this race was moved to be the season finale!



#48 jonpollak

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 06:15

My picks are in.
All American, and Felix

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#49 Bloggsworth

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Posted 17 August 2019 - 07:29

No turns, or an infinite number of infinitesimally small turns?

 

Depends whether or not it was designed by computer...



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Posted 17 August 2019 - 07:47

As excited as I am to have Laguna back this year, and as hopeful as I'm trying to be about the racing quality there... I can only imagine the tension and excitement if this race was moved to be the season finale!

 

 

Please no...

Superspeedway Season's ending, I still have trauma's of '99. So bad that last year I wanted to see the location where Ontario once had been but when, while on the road, my fellow travellers pointed out in which direction to look to see Fontana, I had to turn away....

 

Laguna is perfect!


Edited by Henri Greuter, 17 August 2019 - 07:47.