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#701 Pimpwerx

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:05

Seb might have been safe by a hair there. 



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#702 JonathanProc

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:05

Good thing Seb ended up P4 and not P1 with that lap, or this would be far more controversial

#703 Coral

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:05

What a joke. :down:



#704 w1Y

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:05

It doesnt even matter seb will still likely get front row

#705 v@sh

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:05

No crofty he definitely went off

 

Crofty is one of the worst commentators ever, so not surprised he doesn't see it. Doesn't see a lot of things...stewards should be consistent and delete Sebs time



#706 TomNokoe

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:06

Interesting to see if any teams go out straight away and manage the tow on their own.

#707 BuddyHolly

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:06

Bottas going to get a tow now?



#708 kernel

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:06

Ok, track limits are a farce, well done Masi.

 

VET seemed to have a tire on the line based on the FOM replay so it should be fine...



#709 PayasYouRace

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:06

Looked like all four wheels were off the track to me.

#710 Albertino

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:06

It's not F1 Qualifying if we don't have at least 1 controversy  :stoned:



#711 TomNokoe

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:06

What a joke. :down:

It was millimetres, who cares!!! Let him have it :lol:

"Controversy" come on, it's rubbish.

Edited by TomNokoe, 07 September 2019 - 14:07.


#712 Vesuvius

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:06

It was on the line


All 4 wheels very clearly over.

#713 Unicast

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:07

Guys you are making too much of a fuss over Seb's lap... common! It was obviously on the limit (a matter of mm) and he didn't gain anything really.


Edited by Unicast, 07 September 2019 - 14:08.


#714 SonGoku

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:07

If I was the other teams I would take the same line as Vettel in Parabolica.

#715 gowebber

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:07

Surely Vettel was all 4 wheels off then? Looked like it in the slow mo.


Edited by gowebber, 07 September 2019 - 14:08.


#716 Atreiu

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:07

Is he even being investigated?

#717 Marklar

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:07

All 4 wheels very clearly over.

nah

he is slightly touching it with the outside walls.

Its marginal, but its still in

Bottas' lap counting is more questionable, he clearly passed the line after the red flag was out.



#718 w1Y

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:08

Bottas going to get a tow now?


He got one first but the games at the start messed it up a bit for him.

Someone's second run is gonna get ruined here and will be miss a great battle

#719 Tsarwash

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:08

I would give Seb the benefit of the doubt there. It's so close. 



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#720 Diablobb81

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:08

So much whining.

#721 Claudius

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:08

Track limits are track limits dammit! No matter if it's one meter or 1 mm.



#722 PayasYouRace

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:08

Let’s wait until he fails to improve on that lap and it becomes relevant whether he actually crossed it or not.

#723 kernel

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:08

Is he even being investigated?

 

I don't think they announce investigations for laptimes...



#724 TomNokoe

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:08

(Vettel was slower than Hamilton S1)

#725 Jovanotti

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:09

Guys you are making too much of a fuss over Seb's lap... common! It was obviously on the limit (a matter of mm) and he didn't gain anything really.

Rules are rules one would think. Try to apply this reasoning in tennis when a ball is marginally out.

#726 Grundle

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:09

He Must be in a red car

#727 barzini

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:10

Is it really news that Merc/Ferrari have their own rules?

#728 kernel

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:10

(Vettel was slower than Hamilton S1)

 

But HAM also lost 2 tenths in S3... so they both have time to gain. I suspect pole may be 19.0-19.1



#729 shure

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:10

nah

he is slightly touching it with the outside walls.

Its marginal, but its still in

Bottas' lap counting is more questionable, he clearly passed the line after the red flag was out.

He was just short of the line so would have been very harsh as he barely had time to react.  But yeah, I guess strictly accordingly to the letter of the law he might have been lucky to keep the time



#730 TomNokoe

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:10

Rules are rules one would think. Try to apply this reasoning in tennis when a ball is marginally out.


But those sports are based solely around boundaries, points, etc. Formula 1 isn't.

#731 flickerf1

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:11

Oh, this is going to be a mess, and someone's lap is going to be ruined.



#732 Celloman

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:11

All 4 wheels very clearly over.

I thought that at first as well, but with the only two views that were provided by the broadcast, it looked to me like he always had one wheel touching the line or at least so close it's difficult to say conclusively.



#733 Marklar

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:11

how long are they waiting lmao



#734 shure

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:11

(Vettel was slower than Hamilton S1)

it should be noted that Seb being at the front had no tow.  I think he dropped over a tenth to Leclerc is S1 alone because of that, which would have put him on a very similar time



#735 TomNokoe

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

Okay this is dumb

#736 w1Y

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

merc are always disadvantaged in these situations

#737 ANF

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

So the last cars in line will run out of time again.

#738 ArchieTech

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

Here we go, everyone doing their best to get in each others way again...



#739 ANF

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

Everybody will!

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#740 TomNokoe

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

Some of them aren't getting round

#741 kosmos

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

Haha, this is ridiculous.



#742 Albertino

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

Someone is not going to get a lap in.



#743 statman

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

rolling start? :lol:



#744 Vesuvius

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

They wont make a lap, not enough time???

#745 Laminar

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

Such a stupid embarrassment 



#746 Heyli

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

And Vettel ahead again?



#747 ANF

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:12

What a joke!

#748 Anja

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:13

What a farce.



#749 gillesfan76

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:13

What the very heck is going on???



#750 ArchieTech

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 14:13

All these clever people and computer simulations and this still happens :stoned: