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2019 Japanese Grand Prix build up thread (Qualifying Now @ 1:00 AM GMT Sunday!)


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#101 Marklar

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 10:59

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#102 Peat

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 11:10

Yeah, they should be decisive, early.

 

I would imagine Suzuka would want as few people on site (and under thier public liability insurance) as possible, so I would expect Friday or Saturday to be canned depending on how the storm progresses. 



#103 JimmyTheFox

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 11:23

Honda planning to do a circuit fly over with their jets before the start of the race (weather permitting).
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No matter the era or the opponents, Honda constantly strive to be the best - every lap. Join Honda legends such as Richie Ginther, Ayrton Senna and Jenson Button along side our current driver line up for the race towards the 2019 Japanese Grand Prix. We never stop pushing, because the finish line is never the end.

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#104 Andy35

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:18

They might wish to move QP time,  it is not looking good for 3pm Saturday

 

https://www.wundergr...is?map=forecast



#105 sgtkate

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 12:20

Map is wrong. Alabama is in grave danger too.

This has to be the comment on the year. You sir win the internet. :clap:



#106 BuddyHolly

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 13:09

One of my fave tracks of the year but after pondering on it, I've decided to stay in bed and not get up at 6am on a Sunday to watch.   I would make the effort if both titles weren't long gone but considering I don't get to bed until around 2am on a Sunday, I'll record this one and watch it when I crawl out of bed.



#107 AustinF1

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 15:15

True. But Indy car has a professional crew. F1 still uses volunteers that have to go back to their normal lives.

Circuit marshals? Pretty sure that other than their safety team on the trucks, Indy uses volunteers just like everyone else. I know they did at COTA, and I've been asked before to do Long Beach.


Edited by AustinF1, 08 October 2019 - 15:21.


#108 Ellios

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 16:46



#109 OvDrone

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 21:05

I guess Gasly's box cart is just his career.



#110 SB

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 03:11

Some Japan local hour-by-hour weather forecast, it looks like that the race is hopefully could be held under wet in Sunday afternoon.

 

10 Days forecast - https://tenki.jp/lei...287/10days.html

The columes are : Date/time, weather, temperature, chance of rain, rainfall in 6 hours, humidity, wind-speed.

 

And by the way, the following Monday (13 Oct) is in fact a public holiday in Japan so it is possible to delay the race, just in case if the condition is bad on Sunday. 


Edited by SB, 09 October 2019 - 03:12.


#111 teejay

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 03:34

Just to confirm are we currently at "10000000 percent must cancel race!!!!" or "might be kinda wet"?



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Posted 09 October 2019 - 03:54

Just to confirm are we currently at "10000000 percent must cancel race!!!!" or "might be kinda wet"?

 

I saw a comment elsewhere stating that the storm had already made landfall and will begin to weaken substantially going forward.  Could be a non-factor, aside from some wind. 



#113 Andy35

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 06:35

I saw a comment elsewhere stating that the storm had already made landfall and will begin to weaken substantially going forward.  Could be a non-factor, aside from some wind. 

 

It's nowhere near Japan at the moment

 

https://www.goes.noaa.gov/jma.html

 

it is moving slowly but will pick up speed towards the weekend.  Sunday may by ok,  it will be past the circuit by then, but it is a large storm so could be still  rain falling.

 

It's currently  back to cat 5  but will weaken over the next 2-3 days


Edited by Andy35, 09 October 2019 - 06:40.


#114 zibby43

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:07

It's nowhere near Japan at the moment
 
https://www.goes.noaa.gov/jma.html
 
it is moving slowly but will pick up speed towards the weekend.  Sunday may by ok,  it will be past the circuit by then, but it is a large storm so could be still  rain falling.
 
It's currently  back to cat 5  but will weaken over the next 2-3 days


Good stuff. Appreciate the info.

#115 SophieB

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:34

If you ever wonder what happens to the #F1 driver handprints they take before the podium at the Japanese GP, here’s your answer. Shiroko Station...

 

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How very Empire Strikes Back.



#116 kumo7

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:44

It's nowhere near Japan at the moment

 

https://www.goes.noaa.gov/jma.html

 

it is moving slowly but will pick up speed towards the weekend.  Sunday may by ok,  it will be past the circuit by then, but it is a large storm so could be still  rain falling.

 

It's currently  back to cat 5  but will weaken over the next 2-3 days

 

Some say, this week end will be a hell... :cry:



#117 TomNokoe

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:26



Just to confirm are we currently at "10000000 percent must cancel race!!!!" or "might be kinda wet"?

Saturday 100% don't even bother turning up.

 

Google Maps link of typhoon path relative to Suzuka Circuit link. (Not sure if that will 100% work, desktop only I think).

 

This link will definitely work but doesn't show Suzuka.


Edited by TomNokoe, 09 October 2019 - 08:34.


#118 SophieB

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:47

#F1 #BBCF1 #JAPANESEGP UPDATE: Latest predicted track of #Hagibis (below, JTWC) sees it close to #Suzuka into Sat, reaffirming prior forecast emphasis. Sun will improve considerably (albeit v windy AM). Follow my colleague @andrewbensonf1 for updates re any scheduling decisions.

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#119 GAZF1nut

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:01

Looking likely they’ll have to delay qualy til Sunday morning, Saturday looks like a complete washout



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#120 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:04

I'll believe it when I see it. I spent last week being threatened by Lorenzo  with orange weather warnings for the Friday and how they could turn Red and all we got was a bit of rain and wind on the Thursday morning. 



#121 SB

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:29

Looking likely they’ll have to delay qualy til Sunday morning, Saturday looks like a complete washout

 

I agree and hopefully the organizer would make a decision (to cancel Saturday) early enough such that the spectators do not need to take risk to travel from the hotels to the circuit.

 

It is really dangerous for everyone to stay outdoor in this kind of weather.



#122 TheGoldenStoffel

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:35

I agree and hopefully the organizer would make a decision (to cancel Saturday) early enough such that the spectators do not need to take risk to travel from the hotels to the circuit.

 

It is really dangerous for everyone to stay outdoor in this kind of weather.

 

Doubt that will happen. They will pretend the whole day qualifying is really really going to happen, while everybody with more than 1 brain cell knows it won't, so the TV stations can broadcast shots of rain drops in a puddle between all the ad-breaks. Unfortunately money in Formula 1 is simply more important than the safety of some spectators.



#123 TomNokoe

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:45

I wonder if Saturday is cancelled ahead of time, will Sunday include FP3, qualifying, race, or just qualifying and race?



#124 Heyli

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:52

Would be great if somebody could volunteer to wake me in case Q will be ran on Saturday, so I dont end up waking up for nothing just to check if it´s really cancelled! :)



#125 Marklar

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:06

I wonder if Saturday is cancelled ahead of time, will Sunday include FP3, qualifying, race, or just qualifying and race?

Schedule is way too tight to also have FP3

#126 NixxxoN

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:31

Latest forecasts see a washout on saturday, but sunday could be clear and thus have both quali & race

https://twitter.com/...6957281280?s=19

The travel distance of the storm fron saturday to sunday seems way too big

#127 Clatter

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:35

Doubt that will happen. They will pretend the whole day qualifying is really really going to happen, while everybody with more than 1 brain cell knows it won't, so the TV stations can broadcast shots of rain drops in a puddle between all the ad-breaks. Unfortunately money in Formula 1 is simply more important than the safety of some spectators.

While I agree they might wait and leave any decision later, surely the spectators can make their own decision. If they don't think it's safe, don't turn up.

#128 JBJ

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:38

The travel distance of the storm fron saturday to sunday seems way too big

same happens here

https://www.windfind...19-10-12T18:00Z



#129 NixxxoN

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:51

same happens here

https://www.windfind...19-10-12T18:00Z

Ok if this is right, considering Suzuka circuit is south-west of Nagoya, the typhoon just passes by next to it and the only troublesome time will be the night from friday to saturday actually. We could even have a qualy on saturday, wet and windy one but we could have it

Edited by NixxxoN, 09 October 2019 - 10:52.


#130 Marklar

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:52

UPDATE Super Typhoon #Hagibis #F1 #JAPANESEGP: Landfall is most likely about 200 km east of Suzuka during Saturday evening. At this stage this will result in severe weather at the track during the day with periods of torrential rain and gusts up to 120 kph. (1/2)
On Sunday weather is expected to improve significantly with plenty of sunshine, but still gusty winds. Rain should ease overnight. (2/2)


#131 TheGoldenStoffel

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:58

While I agree they might wait and leave any decision later, surely the spectators can make their own decision. If they don't think it's safe, don't turn up.

 

Oh I agree with you, I loath the nanny-state we seem to live in these days where people themselves seemingly can't make these kind of decisions anymore and rely on governments or organisations to make them for them but my point was more focused on whether they would cancel Saturday beforehand even if it's pretty clear the weather won't improve, which I'm pretty sure they won't do. They will pretend qualifying is eventually going to happen for as long as possible to make the broadcasters happy.



#132 Clatter

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 11:09

Oh I agree with you, I loath the nanny-state we seem to live in these days where people themselves seemingly can't make these kind of decisions anymore and rely on governments or organisations to make them for them but my point was more focused on whether they would cancel Saturday beforehand even if it's pretty clear the weather won't improve, which I'm pretty sure they won't do. They will pretend qualifying is eventually going to happen for as long as possible to make the broadcasters happy.

I agree with that. They will do all they can to stay on schedule, and at this point you can't really blame them.

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 11:26

 

UPDATE Super Typhoon #Hagibis #F1 #JAPANESEGP: Landfall is most likely about 200 km east of Suzuka during Saturday evening. At this stage this will result in severe weather at the track during the day with periods of torrential rain and gusts up to 120 kph. (1/2)
On Sunday weather is expected to improve significantly with plenty of sunshine, but still gusty winds. Rain should ease overnight. (2/2)

 

 

https://www.yr.no/pl...uzuka/long.html

 

Yr.no was right all along. Looks like a dry Fri, wet and windy Saturday, and dry but windy Sunday.



#134 TomNokoe

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 12:57

Schedule is way too tight to also have FP3

Really?

 

FP3 0900 local
Qualy 1200 local
Race 1500 local

 

Or are we starting to overlap with pressers and scrutineering, etc ?

 

I understand it is totally unnecessary and impractical, but just wondering. I don't agree we should start messing with the format (e.g. reverse grids) but it's a good way to look at a 2-day weekend, albeit spread across 3 days!


Edited by TomNokoe, 09 October 2019 - 12:58.


#135 Andy35

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 13:30

The travel distance of the storm fron saturday to sunday seems way too big

 

They accelerate when they get out of the tropics and are steered by other strong winds also in that area.  



#136 Andy35

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 13:32

Ok if this is right, considering Suzuka circuit is south-west of Nagoya, the typhoon just passes by next to it and the only troublesome time will be the night from friday to saturday actually. We could even have a qualy on saturday, wet and windy one but we could have it

 

 

Never best guess a cyclone.   The crew of the El Faro could advise on such matters.

 

Friday morning local time will give best estimate for Saturday QP.



#137 Marklar

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 13:41

Really?

 

FP3 0900 local
Qualy 1200 local
Race 1500 local

 

Or are we starting to overlap with pressers and scrutineering, etc ?

 

I understand it is totally unnecessary and impractical, but just wondering. I don't agree we should start messing with the format (e.g. reverse grids) but it's a good way to look at a 2-day weekend, albeit spread across 3 days!

Every time there was a sunday qualifying (Suzuka 2004/2010, Melbourne 2013, Austin 2015) there was at least a 4 hours gap between its end and the start of the race. In your suggestion qualifying would end less than 1.5 hours before pit lane opens, and just minutes before the Driver Parade, with the press conference taking place during the Driver Parade.

And this doesnt even take into account possible red flags, investigations and procedures to grant special permissions, hence why you need a bigger gap

At most you could do

FP3 06:00
Quali 09:00
Race 14:10

6 am practice? Eh, no. So far they always just cancelled it and this will happen here as well.

I guess the races earlier in the year with late sunset or the night races could easily pull your model off (this would be actually a interesting model for night races), but Suzuka has sunset at 5:20 pm. Even re-scheduling it to 3:10 pm (which they did in 2010) is pushing it.



#138 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 13:44

Ah geez, dry Sunday.  :stoned:



#139 TomNokoe

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 13:48

Why is Marklar so damn smart :cool: :p 



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#140 NixxxoN

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 13:53

Why is Marklar so damn smart :cool: :p

He is a mix of Yoda and Ecclestone, has to be smart for sure

#141 cheekybru

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 14:30


Jon Noble@NobleF1 2m2 minutes ago


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If you ever wonder what happens to the #F1 driver handprints they take before the podium at the Japanese GP, here’s your answer. Shiroko Station...

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How very Empire Strikes Back.


"2nd Place winner" :D

#142 statman

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 15:12

haven't seen this before, Verstappen driving a classic racecar:

 

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Max Verstappen driving the 1965 Honda RA272. The Aluminium(!!!) monocoque car was driven by Richie Ginther and won the 1965 Mexican Grand Prix.



#143 MKSixer

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 15:59

 

If you ever wonder what happens to the #F1 driver handprints they take before the podium at the Japanese GP, here’s your answer. Shiroko Station...

 

EGa4G-4VAAARQBB.jpg

 

 

 

 

How very Empire Strikes Back.

 

Is it parallax or are the hand getting smaller down the order?  Where would Trump's hands go?   :drunk:  :rotfl:



#144 BRG

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 17:17

Where would Trump's hands go?   :drunk:  :rotfl:

Didn't he tells us that?  Grab them by the pussy, wasn't it?



#145 Marklar

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 17:50

:rotfl: 

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#146 PayasYouRace

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 18:14

haven't seen this before, Verstappen driving a classic racecar:

 

 

 

Max Verstappen driving the 1965 Honda RA272. The Aluminium(!!!) monocoque car was driven by Richie Ginther and won the 1965 Mexican Grand Prix.

 

Why are you so shocked that it was made of aluminium? They mostly were back then. Though I suppose Honda would rather forget their magnesium one.



#147 GAZF1nut

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 18:22

https://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/

 

Looking more and more likely the race won’t be affected by the storm, and they may just manage to squeeze qualifying in as the storm is now due to make landfall at 9pm local time on Saturday.



#148 OO7

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 19:13

:rotfl: 

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Norris with what looks like a glass of milk is quite fitting. :lol:



#149 jcbc3

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 19:17

Think it's Hulk that swigs the milk



#150 mangeliiito

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 19:34

Did someone say milk?