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[Doug Nye]

From the web, living in hope - or an unfortunate misprint?  

 

 

DCN

[Barry Boor]

Wishful thinking......

[Lola5000]

Read similar .............like the Brabham BT31 being a 3.0 litre Formula one car.

 

So back on topic ,is the Moss Cooper Jap still around?

[E1pix]

Using sales terms like "encyclopedic history file," it better be real!

[opplock]

Apart from the insane price the claim that Moss started his career in 1950 is nonsense. I've just checked the book he wrote with DCN which confirms that his first event with a Cooper JAP (MkII) was at Shelsley Walsh on 9 May 1948.

 

Caveat Emptor. 

[sabrejet]

Apart from the insane price the claim that Moss started his career in 1950 is nonsense. I've just checked the book he wrote with DCN which confirms that his first event with a Cooper JAP (MkII) was at Shelsley Walsh on 9 May 1948.

 

Caveat Emptor. 

 

Going price would usually be about £50k (judging from a friend's Mk.V sale a few months ago) wouldn't it? So approximately 325k over asking price... Possibly understandable if it's such an historic machine but I'd like to know which car this REALLY is. I'm sure the nose and wheels are wrong anyway.

[Sterzo]

I queried the 1950/ first Moss car with the seller, and received a friendly and humorous reply saying he realised he had written "drivel" and would correct it

[Jagjon]

Apart from the insane price the claim that Moss started his career in 1950 is nonsense. I've just checked the book he wrote with DCN which confirms that his first event with a Cooper JAP (MkII) was at Shelsley Walsh on 9 May 1948.

 

Caveat Emptor. 

Not a single seater  I know  but  I have S.Moss driving his BMW 328 at Brighton Speed trials  in 1947  I  think,  I don't have the photo to hand,   I also thought he may have competed earlier  maybe in trials  with his Morgan?

[SJWBallistic]

This is indeed an ex Stirling Moss car which was sold to Charlie Graham at the end of 1950 and converted into the Graham 500 (the car we see today).

Whilst the history is not in question the value is certainly in dreamland.

 

More information can be found here:

http://500race.org/marques/graham-500/

[opplock]

Not a single seater  I know  but  I have S.Moss driving his BMW 328 at Brighton Speed trials  in 1947  I  think,  I don't have the photo to hand,   I also thought he may have competed earlier  maybe in trials  with his Morgan?

 

"The BMW 328 which my father let me drive in my first competitive events". From Stirling Moss, My Cars, My Career (Moss,Nye). I meant that his earliest event in a Cooper was in 1948, not that it was his first ever event. 

[Tim Murray]

The Robert Edwards biography lists Stirling’s first event as the Harrow Car Club’s trial on 2nd March 1947. He drove the BMW 328 and won, receiving the Cullen Cup for his efforts.

[Macca]

That Cooper 500 was briefly seen in a TV prog last night, the one with Peter Davidson and Christopher Timothy, when they visited the vendor's premises. They couldn't afford any of his other stuff either....

 

Paul M

[nicanary]

That Cooper 500 was briefly seen in a TV prog last night, the one with Peter Davidson and Christopher Timothy, when they visited the vendor's premises. They couldn't afford any of his other stuff either....

 

Paul M

The Cooper last night was a Kieft.

[f1steveuk]

That's the great thing with racing vehicles, everything is fully adjustable, even the history............

[Ray Bell]

All the better to get the alignment right...

[Doug Nye]

The Cooper last night was a Kieft.

 

Rather like the old chestnut about "That Fokker's a Messerschmitt..."

 

DCN