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Poll: Hamilton Albon Brazil 2019 (268 member(s) have cast votes)

What was up with that?

  1. That was on Lewis (160 votes [59.70%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.70%

  2. Albon’s actions caused that (16 votes [5.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.97%

  3. Racing incident (88 votes [32.84%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.84%

  4. Other/don’t know (4 votes [1.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.49%

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#1 SophieB

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:48

I know you scamps will want to discuss, so discuss here.



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#2 Fatgadget

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:49

Scamps?



#3 vgrocco

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:51

Kind of similar to the Ric, KMag incident, so I expect +5s for Lewis.



#4 Diablobb81

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:51

Lewis fault. Him locking shows it was too eager.

#5 Risil

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:52

Scamps?


You know, loveable rogues

#6 CountDooku

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:52

Albon left the door open and turned into Hamilton. Albon penalty IMHO.

#7 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:52

Racing incident. Albon left a huge door open, this stuff can happen. Nobody's fault



#8 MinardiCrashDummy

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:52

Racing incident, no penalty.



#9 CL16

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:52

Albon threw away his first podium

#10 Tsarwash

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:53

Need to see some proper angles to be honest. It looks like Albon left the door open and then turned into Lewis, but I would want to see it again. 



#11 Disgrace

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Albon "left a gap" because he was taking the normal racing line. Hamilton locked up, and hit him. It's a penalty for Hamilton, but a self-induced podium lost for Albon.



#12 Diablobb81

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Albon left the door open and turned into Hamilton. Albon penalty IMHO.


Tell Lewis that.

#13 FLB

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Hamilton just owned up and said it's his own fault.



#14 Kev00

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Albon left the door open and turned into Hamilton. Albon penalty IMHO.


Taking the racing line = leaving door open? Albon was ahead, Lewis went for a dive that wasn’t on. Same as Ricciardo on Mag.

#15 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Lewis is a sport. Comparing this to Vettel's reaction..



#16 carlb5253

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Ham has just took blame so pen incoming

#17 Tsarwash

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Ah, Lewis has just taken full responsibility. 



#18 wookles

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:54

Lewis said it's his fault and apologised.

 

Whether or not there's a penalty is another matter.



#19 MJB5990

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:55

Lewis admitting fault. Should probably be 5s penalty.

Almost too honest.

Edited by MJB5990, 17 November 2019 - 18:55.


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#20 CountDooku

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:55

Tell Lewis that.


Lewis hasn’t got 5 different camera angles and 5 replays to see the incident.

#21 djparky

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:55

Looked like a racing incident to me, fair play to Hamilton for owning up to that

#22 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:55

Taking the racing line = leaving door open? Albon was ahead, Lewis went for a dive that wasn’t on. Same as Ricciardo on Mag.

that's exact what leaving the door open means :)



#23 Ruusperi

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:56

Racing incident as Lewis didn't collide on purpose. Mistakes belong to racing.


Edited by Ruusperi, 17 November 2019 - 18:57.


#24 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:56

Lewis sticking his nose in a gap that was always going to close. He wasn’t alongside enough.



#25 Myrvold

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:56

From the limited replays/views I've seen, it's a bit like the WRX ending. It's not really an overtaking chance, but it is at a certain point in the race, you are better off closing it a bit instead of inviting people to have a chance.

What I'm gonna vote in the poll... can wait after a replay or 20!



#26 1Devil1

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:56

Nice from Lewis, to be honest about it, not like his fans  :up:



#27 Diablobb81

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:56

Lewis hasn’t got 5 different camera angles and 5 replays to see the incident.


You don't really need them to judge who was at fault here. The move simply wasn't on.

#28 Donkey

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:56

First rule after a road traffic collision - NEVER APOLOGISE OR ADMIT LIABILITY!

 

Lewis might just regret that interview (or maybe he has resigned himself to getting a penalty anyway).



#29 vgrocco

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:57

Respect to Lewis for owning up to his mistake  :up: 



#30 Vielleicht

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:57

I really respect Lewis for admitting blame for that one

#31 P123

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:57

Slam dunk penalty for Lewis, and he has held his hand up to it. Hope stewards get the finger out so Sainz can be on the podium.

#32 Spillage

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:57

Hamilton's fault. He was very clumsy, the move was never on. Feel for Albon.

#33 derstatic

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:58

That's on Lewis. Very optimistic move. Nice of him to apologize and take the blame for the collission. 



#34 Albertino

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:58

The way albon spun around like a pendulum tells you how far alongside he was. WE saw much less clumsy racing into the higher speed into T1 today. Even if it's 60-40, its still more Lewi's fault than Albon's.

 

Would love to see some clips of it though,

 

Edit: Respect to Lewis for admitting it. He gains/loses nothing either way as both championships are buttoned up, except a podium record.


Edited by Albertino, 17 November 2019 - 18:59.


#35 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:58

Albon shouldn’t have left the door open like that, but I don’t see why Sainz and others should benefit from it. Let Hamilton go this time.

#36 MinardiCrashDummy

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 18:58

Hamilton's fault. He was very clumsy, the move was never on. Feel for Albon.

 

The move was clearly on



#37 Counterbalance

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:01

Nice from Lewis, to be honest about it, not like his fans :up:


You seem to have an issue with Hamilton and his millions of fans. Get over it.

60/40 fault with the emphasis leaning towards Hamilton at fault. Albon left a big gap open, though. Feel gutted for Albon, so close to his first podium.

#38 balmybaldwin

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:02

Racing incident as Lewis didn't collide on purpose. Mistakes belong to racing.

 

Neither did Ric on Mag.

 

Ham steamed in locked up from a long way back.



#39 Viryfan

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:03

At one point you need to make sure to keep covered your inside.
Even more so when you have someone like Lewis that close.
Albon was too nice.

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#40 cheekybru

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:03

They haven't even showed a replay yet...

First glance it was penalty for Lewis but I will withhold my vote until I see a replay

#41 screamingV16

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:03

Albon did leave the door open a bit, but Hamilton was too impetuous, he would have got Albon with DRS on the straight.



#42 MinardiCrashDummy

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:04

If you no longer go for a gap which exists you are no longer a racing driver”

 

Someone said that once.



#43 pit5bul

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:04

Lewis 100% at fault, the gap was there, once he went for it - no way back once the gap closed.



#44 MinardiCrashDummy

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:04

Albon did leave the door open a bit, but Hamilton was too impetuous, he would have got Albon with DRS on the straight.

 

Would he, the Mercedes couldn't outdrag the toro roso.



#45 MikeV1987

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:05

Any onboards yet?

#46 MinardiCrashDummy

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:05

Lewis 100% at fault, the gap was there, once he went for it - no way back once the gap closed.

 

You describes a racing incident.



#47 Counterbalance

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:05

Lewis 100% at fault, the gap was there, once he went for it - no way back once the gap closed.


How does that logic work out?

#48 Huffer

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:06

Racing incident - Albon left the door open, Lewis took advantage but was just in the wrong place when Albon tried to correct his error. Lewis couldn't really be any more on the inside of the turn than he already was. 



#49 balage06

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:07

I'd say Albon left the door open, but it was still an unnecessary, borderline careless move. So I'd understand if Lewis gets penalised.



#50 screamingV16

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Posted 17 November 2019 - 19:10

Would he, the Mercedes couldn't outdrag the toro roso.

Well who knows ultimatley, but he was alongside the Toro Rosso and would have stood a very good change of outbraking him into the first corner had their had the race gone on another lap. Was the safer option, but Hamilton made a split second decision based on Albon leaving the door open.