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2019 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix build up thread - That's All Folks!


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#401 balage06

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:25

Final qualy battle standings anyone? I'm lazy.



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#402 Andy35

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:25

It's the Festive season !

 

Let's get in the mood...

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=0jQvYMISqLw



#403 ANF

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:26

Mercedes International Assistance.

Huh?

Mercedes International Assistant Team Principal, Ferrari International Assistance President Jean Todt:

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https://twitter.com/...774225507819521

#404 Huffer

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:29

I think that is true for the other side of the argument, people conclude Ferrari isn't the fastest anymore in qualifying that must be the regulation change. That is the highest form of oversimplify in a complex sport like F1

 

Which is exactly what the "can't get the tires to work" argument is - it's an oversimplification masquerading as a complex argument. It ignores (or in this case, hopes that people do not look deeper into) all of the important aspects involved in getting tires to work, especially the impact engine power has on those aspects. As you say, motorsport is complex beast. 
 


Edited by Huffer, 30 November 2019 - 15:15.


#405 statman

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:30

Q3 sectors:

 

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#406 milestone 11

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:34

Pleased for Lewis nailing the season's final pole.

#407 thefinalapex

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:37

Mercedes in a league of there own as usual. Hope for an exciting race but yeah its abu dhabi, borefest.

#408 Requiem84

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:39

First pole in 10 races for Hamilton.

The car likes this track and Hamilton likes the track too. It really was a flawless lap imo.

#409 Fatgadget

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 14:58

Cant shake of the impression that the PU clarifications slowed down Ferrari.

That, or they were outdevelopped by Mercedes (who stopped working on the car the last part of the season (!))

Me too thinks you are onto something there fella!...But hey ho..what do I know..



#410 thefinalapex

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 15:06

Since the clarifacation Ferrari is nowhere, must be coincidence😉

#411 Marklar

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 15:43

So apparently Bottas took part in qualifying today because Mercedes wanted to push Albon into qualifying on Softs (basically one more driver increases the likehood of him needing Softs to get through Q3). Didnt work, but it makes sense.



#412 keshav

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 15:52

Sainz vs. Gasly showdown will be great to see.



#413 Fatgadget

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 16:11

Since the clarifacation Ferrari is nowhere, must be coincidence

Just as well it's the last race of the season and next year totally revamped regs hey!..



#414 Atreiu

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 16:13

I hope it rains.

#415 Requiem84

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 16:14

Just as well it's the last race of the season and next year totally revamped regs hey!..


No revamped regs.

#416 Fatgadget

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 16:33

Still Leclerc out qualified Vettel.

What is your point?...Bottas has out  qualified  Hamilton numerous times..And?



#417 David Lightman

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 16:46

This is a brilliant spot:

 

Probably the only time in #F1 history we'll have:

Fastest: Pole Number 88

Slowest: Pole, Number 88


Edited by David Lightman, 30 November 2019 - 16:46.


#418 Pimpwerx

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 17:05

This is a brilliant spot:

 

Probably the only time in #F1 history we'll have:

Fastest: Pole Number 88

Slowest: Pole, Number 88

I don't understand this. Can you explain?



#419 ToniF1

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 17:07

First is Ham, second is Kubica



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#420 EvilWarMachine

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 17:07

Fastest: Hamilton, pole Number 88

Slowest: Kubica, Pole (Polish), Car Number 88

 

I assume..



#421 Pimpwerx

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 17:09

First is Ham, second is Kubica

 

 

Fastest: Hamilton, pole Number 88

Slowest: Kubica, Pole (Polish), Car Number 88

 

I assume..

Thanks guys. That makes sense. I deserve the Reiner Wolfcastle gif. Flew completely over my head.



#422 messy

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 17:14

Only chance of anything other than a Hamilton cakewalk tomorrow is a bad start, with no team-mate to protect him. Thing is, Mercedes are still so far head that he’d probably breeze back into the lead if he dropped to seventh on the first lap.

Message to Ferrari for 2020 - get on it, for all our sakes.

#423 Marklar

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 18:02

They sold the F2002 for 5.9 m lmao

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#424 Ali623

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 18:13

Only chance of anything other than a Hamilton cakewalk tomorrow is a bad start, with no team-mate to protect him. Thing is, Mercedes are still so far head that he’d probably breeze back into the lead if he dropped to seventh on the first lap.

Message to Ferrari for 2020 - get on it, for all our sakes.

 

I can't remember Hamilton making any bad starts since 2016...



#425 Marklar

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 18:35

lmao https://twitter.com/...835793172025345

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#426 JBJ

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 18:54

One stopper I presume?



#427 ARTGP

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 20:17

The only way this is interesting, is Lewis having to overtake Max on track.



#428 rodlamas

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 22:08

Podium is gonna be Hamilton-Verstappen-Bottas

#429 Atreiu

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 22:19

They sold the F2002 for 5.9 m lmao

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How much does it cost to just run it for a track day?
Because I damn well hope it wasn’t sold to a private museum.

#430 ARTGP

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 00:58

If the Merc's race better than they qualify (as they tend to do), Lewis will probably lap Albon.



#431 loki

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 05:36

How much does it cost to just run it for a track day?
Because I damn well hope it wasn’t sold to a private museum.

Over here depending on the track it’s US$5-10k a day to rent the track.  Tires are $500-600 ea for Avons that size.  Depending on the fuel it’s $15-20/gal.  IIRC cars from that era got 3-4 mpg.  If you raced a historic race the track costs would drop quite a bit.  You’d need to be licensed and entered, probably around a grand an event.  I don’t know offhand where it could run in the states.  I don’t think HSR allow them and I haven’t seen that vintage GP series around in several years.  Those were from the 70s and 80s.   Might be able to get it into the Monterey Reunion or Goodwood over there.  I’d reckon if one had the dosh to buy the car they’d have no problem renting (at least from a monetary sense) any track available.



#432 mangeliiito

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 07:46

How is the tyres compared to F2? A lot of drivers hit the cliff in the F2 race.

#433 dave34m

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:08

Has anything been mentioned about Hamilton setting a purple final sector while there was yellow flags?

Was this under investigation?


Edited by dave34m, 01 December 2019 - 10:08.


#434 RhysL1218

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:15

Has anything been mentioned about Hamilton setting a purple final sector while there was yellow flags?

Was this under investigation?

 

What?  :lol:  Those Dubai 2020 Expo adverts aren't yellow flags you know?



#435 TomNokoe

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:22

How is the tyres compared to F2? A lot of drivers hit the cliff in the F2 race.


Easy one stop

#436 Ivanhoe

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:29

What?  :lol:  Those Dubai 2020 Expo adverts aren't yellow flags you know?

There was a short yellow flag when Seb spun in Q1. Lewis was right behind him. His last mini sectors weren’t purple though.



#437 search

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:53

Easy one stop

track temperatures will be different as well, with the F1 race starting just before the sunset



#438 Marklar

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:55

There was a short yellow flag when Seb spun in Q1. Lewis was right behind him. His last mini sectors weren’t purple though.

Also the yellow flag was gone when Hamilton arrived there too



#439 Marklar

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:57

Easy one stop

Pirelli says so too, so it will be a 2 stop :p

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#440 HP

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 10:59

If Hamilton reaches S3 in front of the pack they won't see him again tomorrow.

Don't jinx it.

 

He has an old engine as almost everyone except Bottas. Some of those engines might call it quit, before the end of the chequered flag.


Edited by HP, 01 December 2019 - 10:59.


#441 TomNokoe

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:07

Pirelli says so too, so it will be a 2 stop :p

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I've got a feeling that it'll be a Hungary situation where Ferrari are absolutely nowhere, so Red Bull will try and dupe Mercedes into a 2 stop, just because.

Anyways, we need a race thread methinks. Doesn't need to be anything pretty. I'll see what I can do

Edited by TomNokoe, 01 December 2019 - 11:08.


#442 BuddyHolly

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:14

Don't jinx it.

 

He has an old engine as almost everyone except Bottas. Some of those engines might call it quit, before the end of the chequered flag.

Seeing a Merc going bang might be the only redeeming feature of this 'race'.   ;)



#443 w1Y

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:33

Bottas needs to think about the race. Madness again on the Merc pit wall.


Cant he just change tyres. I mean he starts from the pitlane so what penalty could they give him that makes a difference

#444 TomNokoe

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:41

90 mins to lights out

was trying to time the race thread to 11:40 but I was too early lol

anyways, race thread

Edited by TomNokoe, 01 December 2019 - 11:42.


#445 Anja

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 11:44

Cant he just change tyres. I mean he starts from the pitlane so what penalty could they give him that makes a difference

 

Alfa did that with Kimi at Monza and it resulted in a stop/go penalty so not exactly an advisable move. 



#446 cheekybru

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 13:09

I got a feeling a SC possibly trigger by Lewis and Max is going to help bottas to win from last

Just cos its something Lewis hasn't quite managed (should have won from the pitlane once)

Edited by cheekybru, 01 December 2019 - 13:10.


#447 NickeF1

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 13:45

I hate DRS.