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#401 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 14:02

Proof that driver numbers weren't always more visible in the good old days.

 

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#402 Beri

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 14:27

#30 can only be for one hero

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#403 DeKnyff

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 14:27

Proof that driver numbers weren't always more visible in the good old days.

 

 

However, many times the number was painted right in the face of the car.

 

 

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Stirling Moss, Jaguar Mk VII

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#404 Beri

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 15:15

That's just inches away from Moss at speed. Epic picture!

#405 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 15:31

#30 can only be for one hero
 

 

 

Anyone who delivers my pizza is a hero indeed.



#406 Beri

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 17:31

And by that breakneck speed, the 'za is still hot when you get it.

#407 Bleu

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 18:05

First option was to put picture of Mr. Super Aguri. Second option was to put Arie Luyendyk. But since both have been used, I go for Michael Waltrip.

 

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#408 SuperSwede

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 22:06

#30 can only be for one hero

Nope, although I get your point mate  :)

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Ronnie Peterson in the Ferrari-312 PB, which he shared with Tim Schenken.

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#409 Bleu

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 07:50

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#410 DeKnyff

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 09:06

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David Piper's Lola T70 of 1969, with trademark Sandeman Porto wine sponsoring (featured by many of Piper's cars)



#411 PayasYouRace

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 10:07

Those T70s were fantastic looking cars.



#412 midgrid

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 10:27

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The late François Migault in the Connew team's only F1 race start, the 1972 Austrian Grand Prix.

#413 Ivanhoe

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 10:29

Michele Alboreto, Lola-Larousse LC89

 

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 10:34

So I read yesterday that only two footballers have 'scored in every minute of a match', those being Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Christiano Ronaldo.

As I am now going through this topic, I am thinking that Dan must have raced every number.....



#415 PayasYouRace

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 11:09

Oh go on. Someone has to keep the Alonso mafia placated.

 

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#416 Amphicar

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 11:18

M.V.S. CECIL/FORD DRIVEN BY ARNIE KNEPPER 1969 INDY 500

 

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#417 jjcale

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 11:43

So no problem with recent cars then .....



#418 red stick

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 11:50

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#419 Amphicar

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 12:47

So no problem with recent cars then .....

But old and obscure much preferred!



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#420 Amphicar

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 12:59

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The late François Migault in the Connew team's only F1 race start, the 1972 Austrian Grand Prix.

For a full account of the Quixotic Connew adventure I recommend Barry Boor's website:  http://www.barryjboo...ruce/story1.htm



#421 SuperSwede

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 18:28

Marc Surer, Arrows A5, 1982
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#422 SuperSwede

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 20:52

Dave Charlton in the Scribante Lucky Strike Racing Lotus 72D at the British GP held at Brands Hatch in 1972
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I wish that FIA could allow for Wild-Card entry´s these days too. Wouldn´t it be great to see the likes of Josef Newgarden in a Penske-Mercedes, Scott Dixon in a CGR-Red Bull and Alexander Rossi in a Mclaren-Andretti and so on at times? :cool:
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I know that it would be impossible due to how complicated the current F1 cars are to run nowadays. Not to mention that the rules does not allow it, but you know what I mean.

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Edit: I got curious so I did a more thorough check up about Dave Charlton and the Scuderia Scribante team, and it turns out that he competed in 3 F1 races in 1972. So in that regard he was a so called Wild-Card, but he did a lot of F1 races in his career and Grand Prix too.
 
He started hix F1 career at South African Grand Prix 1965 with Ecurie Tomahawk at East Loundon (DNQ) and drove his last Grand Prix at Kyalami in 1975, driving a McLaren M23 where he ending up in 14th place. He was racing in both the South African Philips Car Sound Atlantic Championship, and in the Formula Atlantic South Africa 1977 too.
 
He did most of his racing in South-Africa which had its own F1-series, called the Governor General Cup, and the Formula 1 South Africa series, which he won several times, but he also competed in several Grand Prix races in other county´s too in the F1 Championship too.
 
For the F1 aficionado´s here that wanna know/learn more about Dave Charlton and the Scuderia Scribante team
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* One should always take what is said on Wikipedia with a at least a wee grain of salt as its info can be edited/added by anyone, and cross-reference if possible. Although in the case of classic F1 it¨s seldom any misinformation, just missed out information.
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Cheers

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#423 Beri

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 21:28

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Here's Kiwi John Nicholson tackling Druids (not 100% sure about the corner) during his 1974 attempt to qualify for the British Grand Prix with his Lyncar Ford. His attempt was fruitless tho.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 21:30

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#425 DeKnyff

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 21:59

 

Marc Surer, Arrows A5, 1982

A stylish and handsome car, but my favourite Arrows is the A2 of 1979.

 

Unfortunately, it was as espectacular as damn slow...

 

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#426 Ivanhoe

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 22:15

Another one of Ricardo Patrese in the Arrows Ford A3, taking pole at the 1981 US Grand Prix (officially the Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach).

 

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#427 Bleu

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:05

28...that must be Ferrari, right?

 

One of the non-regular drivers (was a test driver for few years though), Nicola Larini.

 

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:38

Rene Arnoux, 1985, his only race before mysteriously being sacked.

 

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:38

Stefan Johansson in his Ferrari 156/85 on his way to Wi.. well, run out of fuel, just as the once previously in the lead had done at the San Marino´s GP at Imola 1985
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#430 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:40

Nice timing SuperSwede. After all, Stefan replaced Rene that year. Didn't do a bad job either, especially in 1986 when he outscored the highly rated Alboreto.



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Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:57

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British GP 1979, Clay Regazzoni takes Williams maiden win.

 

 

A period of changes, Williams arrival to the top happened just 14 days after the first win of a turbo-engined Renault.



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Posted 16 February 2020 - 09:49

Nice timing SuperSwede. After all, Stefan replaced Rene that year. Didn't do a bad job either, especially in 1986 when he outscored the highly rated Alboreto.

Yeah, I was lucky to not run out fue.. time there PYR  :)

Rene Arnoux, 1985, his only race before mysteriously being sacked.

Well, there´s been a lot of talk about that, not at least in Sweden as Stefan Johansson had a signed contract to race for Toleman in 1985 but it all came to nothing as Pirelli refused to deliver tires to the team. And in Sweden people was outraged and the common conspiracy idea was that Ferrari had pulled some strings to prevent Toleman to race for some odd reason.

 

So Stefan replaced the suspended Stefan Belloff at Team Tyrrell the first 2 races of the season*. And then.. BOOM "Stefan Johansson has been signed by Ferrari to replace Rene Arnoux!"

 

The truth is that Toleman had criticized Pirelli quite heavily the past season, saying that their tires wasn´t up to scratch, bloody useless and so on, which they just as in these days certainly were. I wouldn´t even use them as Fenders on my boat, to paraphrase Alan Jones (although that was about another tire manufacturer when he was driving for Williams, and prolly not an exact quote either)

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The case of Ferrari´s sacking of Rene Arnoux has been a topic of discussions since then but I think** that it had nothing to do with his performance, but due to other factors, such as doing coke (not the soda pop), and messing with the wrong women, prolly some of the bosses at Ferrari. There is a couple of threads about that in the Nostalgia Forum but it been years since I looked at those, so I have to admit don´t remember all the fact´s about it.

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*From Wikipedia as I didn´t remember the whole story

**It would be most appreciated if anyone of you could share some more light on that matter.
 
EDIT; My usual grammar, spelling and misplacing of words disasters. I wrote "certainly are not" about today´s Pirelli tires for instance when I meant just the opposite. It has been corrected now though. I don´t like tire-wars due to that the races become even more predictable if so. But I would love to see both Bridgestone and Michelin back in the game again so that we got rid of Pirelli and their God awful tires.
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A couple of more nice pics of Stefan Nils Ervin Johanson, this time in the Ferrari F/86 1.5 V6t, at the Monaco´s GP 1986

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I dunno where this one it shot, but it´s never the less a good picture anyways

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Edited by SuperSwede, 16 February 2020 - 13:00.


#433 midgrid

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 09:59

The second photo was taken at Jerez.

#434 Ivanhoe

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:08

28...that must be Ferrari, right?

Either Ferrari or this man

 

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:15

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Mark Donohue in the unsuccessful Penske PC1 at the Race of Champions in 1975. He tragically suffered a fatal head injury from a puncture-induced crash later in the year after the team had switched to a March chassis.

#436 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:55

John Watson in the more successful Penske:

 

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 11:47

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I think there's a race here again today.  Fred Lorenzen, 1965 Daytona 500 winner.


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 13:45

Allez les bleus encore! The Bugatti T251 as driven in the 1956 French GP by Maurice Trintignant. It featured a mid-engined transverse layout. Sadly it was not a success. The in-line 8 cylinder engine was under powered and the car's handling was awful. Still, it was the first ever transverse F1 car - indeed, until Honda built the RA271 and the R272, it was the only one!

 

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#439 Berner

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 00:45

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#440 Bleu

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 05:19

Remembering that Ferrari with Dallara-esque white stripe..

 

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#441 Ivanhoe

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 06:15

Jacky Ickx, Ferrari 312B, 1970

 

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#442 Beri

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 06:21

Remembering that Ferrari with Dallara-esque white stripe..

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- Red hot glowing brake discs
- Seeing drivers lean into a corner
- Feel the G forces just by watching a picture
- Simple looking cars with feminine shapes
- Having to move heaven and earth to get a bite of the news back then

.. I sincerely miss those days.

And since I've missed yesterday, I'll do a #28 and #27 together..
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#443 red stick

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 06:24

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#444 DeKnyff

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 07:37

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The very humble origins of the iconic number 27 in Formula 1.

 

After several failed attempts to build a competitive team in the early seventies, Frank Williams broke all his links with his previous teams and former co-owners and restarted from scratch in 1977.

 

As a new team, he was granted the lowest available number, so he got #27 (Ligier, the previous new entry, had got #26 in 1976).

 

Williams new life in Formula 1 couldn’t be more humble and with a lower profile: they could only buy a one year old second hand March chasis and hired an obscure Belgian driver, Patrick Nève. As expected, the single-car team didn’t score one single point and failed to qualify for the race several times. Think Caterham/Marussia/HRT.

 

No one in his right mind would have anticipated that that hopeless team would be contending for podiums the following year, would start winning races in two years and would win both Championships in a rather dominant way in three years. However, that’s exactly what happened, thanks to Saudi money, the genius of Patrick Head and the spirited drives of Alan Jones, Clay Regazzoni and Carlos Reutemann (Nève disappeared into oblivion after the first year).

 

Since 1979, the team run two cars, #27 and #28. After they won the Championship in 1980, they took #1 and #2 from the outgoing Champion (Ferrari) for the 1981 season. Ferrari, in turn, inherited Williams numbers. Villeneuve (1st driver) got #27 and Pironi got #28. The rest is history.



#445 DeKnyff

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 07:39

Jacky Ickx, Ferrari 312B, 1970

 

What an impressive photo!



#446 Ivanhoe

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 07:41

What an impressive photo!


Yeah, wonderful shot, made at the start of the Belgian GP.

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 07:43

And since I've missed yesterday, I'll do a #28 and #27 together..

 

A way less friendly (for the drivers) image of #27 and #28 together (San Marino GP, 1982), Villeneuve temporarily ahead of Pironi.

 

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 08:00

Jacky Ickx, Ferrari 312B, 1970


I had the same image ready to post, so here's one of Alan Jones instead:

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 08:39

As promised:

 

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 12:33

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James Hunt in the March 731 of Team Hesketh, 1973 Monaco GP