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Your Top 10 Drivers of the "Noughties"


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#101 Marklar

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 10:45

looking forward to the 50s

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#102 Collombin

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 10:50

looking forward to the 50s


Yes, can't wait for all the expert insight awaiting us there!

A more interesting twist would be to do mid-decade to mid-decade, as it seems a bit unfair on drivers like Stewart whose peak straddled the turn of a decade. Piquet would probably do better on a poll that ended in 1985 too!

#103 noriaki

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 10:58

Yes, can't wait for all the expert insight awaiting us there!

A more interesting twist would be to do mid-decade to mid-decade, as it seems a bit unfair on drivers like Stewart whose peak straddled the turn of a decade. Piquet would probably do better on a poll that ended in 1985 too!


But that will be unfair on the drivers whose peak was on both sides of the middle of the decade.

I therefore suggest we ought to create a separate list to encompass every possible 59 decades in the WDC history so that no driver can claim to be unlucky with the timing of their peak. Or better yet, for every 105 decades since the start of motor racing in the 1890's.

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#104 Collombin

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 11:04

Isn't it 61 decades in the WDC era? Better get started right away.

#105 garoidb

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 11:54

Yes, can't wait for all the expert insight awaiting us there!

A more interesting twist would be to do mid-decade to mid-decade, as it seems a bit unfair on drivers like Stewart whose peak straddled the turn of a decade. Piquet would probably do better on a poll that ended in 1985 too!

 

78-87 would suit Piquet best, I think. For Prost, 1981 -1990 and for Mansell 1985 -1994. Senna's career was just about a decade anyway.

 

In this thread, it is Mansell and Senna who are most discommoded by spanning two decades, even though three of these four won WDCs in the 90s, and the other won his final three GPs. But, if we are talking about ranking drivers based on the 1980s then Senna had 1 WDC and Mansell had none, compared to three each for Prost and Piquet. Prost was a genuine factor in the 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988 and 1989 championships. Piquet was a factor in 1980, 1981, 1983, 1986 and 1987. Mansell and Senna had far fewer serious championship challenges in that decade.

 

Edit: I have observed before that Prost and Piquet are commonly viewed in terms of the time their careers overlapped those of Senna (in particular) and their rivalries with Mansell. In a sense, that lens is the mid-decade to mid-decade focus that you talk about, spanning 1985 - 1993. It, too, is distorting. Just looking at the 1980s is a refreshing change because it reverses the tables from the usual perspective.  


Edited by garoidb, 21 December 2019 - 12:03.


#106 PlatenGlass

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 13:31

Prost was a genuine factor in the 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988 and 1989 championships.


Arguably 1981 and 1982 as well. 7 points away in 1981 and 10 in 1982, and he led the most laps both years.

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 13:57

Arguably 1981 and 1982 as well. 7 points away in 1981 and 10 in 1982, and he led the most laps both years.

 

Yes, I would agree but didn't want to get into having to argue about it. In the other years he either won or was the main contender. In 81 and 82 he didn't make it to the final race decider, whereas two or three other drivers did. He was a strong factor in both years and with a bit of luck could easily have won. 


Edited by garoidb, 21 December 2019 - 14:18.