All time fantasy line up for 2020
#1
Posted 17 December 2019 - 10:08
If you had to pick 10 teams and 20 drivers during the entire history of the sport, who would your pick be for 2020?
Note: drivers and teams do not have to be affiliated like they were in the past. But teams and drivers do have to be picked of a certain year (of dominance).
For example: Schumacher (2000) could drive for Williams (1992) in your line up.
Lotus (1963)
Hamilton (2019)
Clark (1963)
Williams (1992)
Schumacher (2004)
M. Verstappen (2019)
Tyrrell (1971)
Fittipaldi (1972)
Andretti (1978)
Mercedes (2014)
Fangio (1957)
Senna (1993) *
Ferrari (2004)
Lauda (1976) *
Prost (1989)
McLaren (1988)
Vettel (2012)
Brabham (1960)
Jordan (1999)
Stewart (1973)
Alonso (2006)
Renault (2006)
Moss (1958)
Ickx (1970)
Ligier (1980)
Peterson (1978)
Pironi (1982)
Alfa Romeo (1950)
G. Villeneuve (1982)
J. Villeneuve (1996) *
Aside from including some drivers I favor that never did become World Champion:
* - Named year was not a year where said driver won the championship. But it was the year where I think he was at his absolute best.
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#2
Posted 17 December 2019 - 10:51
Hakkinen (1998)
Hunt (1976)
Team - Lotus (1963)
Clark (1963)
Andretti (1978)
Team - Renault (2005)
Prost (1986)
Alonso (2012)
Team - Williams (1996)
Senna (1993)
J.Villeneuve (2000)
Team - Mercedes (2014)
Hamilton (2019)
Raikkonen (2005)
Team - Ferrari (2002)
M.Schumacher (1998)
G.Villeneuve (1981)
Team - Brabham (1983)
Piquet (1983)
Vettel (2011)
Team - Red Bull (2011)
Montoya (2003)
K.Rosberg (1983)
Team - Tyrrell (1971)
Lauda (1975)
M.Verstappen (2019)
Team - Brawn (2009)
Button (2009)
Mansell (1986)
Edited by PlayboyRacer, 17 December 2019 - 11:37.
#3
Posted 17 December 2019 - 13:56
What's the reason you put Keke Rosberg on the list?
#4
Posted 17 December 2019 - 14:50
Edited by noikeee, 17 December 2019 - 14:52.
#5
Posted 17 December 2019 - 14:58
Also, I'm assuming there's some sort of BOP or equalization formula between these cars, otherwise I suspect the 2002 Ferrari, the 2006 Renault, the 2011 RB might lap ever so slightly faster than the 1955 Mercedes...
#6
Posted 17 December 2019 - 15:32
Haha, don't overthink it too much. Your assumption is correct. Let's leave it with that. Great list you've added.Also, I'm assuming there's some sort of BOP or equalization formula between these cars, otherwise I suspect the 2002 Ferrari, the 2006 Renault, the 2011 RB might lap ever so slightly faster than the 1955 Mercedes...
But you do think the Schumacher post leg injury was better than the hungry and highly motivated Schumacher of 1996? Because that was my doubt. I was dubbing between Schumacher of 1996 and 2004.
Edited by Beri, 17 December 2019 - 15:33.
#7
Posted 17 December 2019 - 16:27
I love topics like this.
Picture a fictional 1985 (near perfect balance between performance and ability to race themselves) with equally reliable (but not bullet proof) cars:
01 - Lotus Renault; Senna and Clark
02 - Renault; Prost and Arnoux
03 - Ligier Renault; Alonso and J Villeneuve
04 - McLaren TAG; Hakkinen and Hamilton
05 - Ferrari; Lauda and Raikkonen
06 - Williams Honda; D Hill and Montoya
07 - Honda; Kobayashi and K Rosberg
08 - Benetton BMW; Schumacher and Berger
09 - Brabham BMW; Piquet and Massa
10 - Mercedes; N Rosberg and Vettel
11 - Tyrell Ford; M Verstappen and JY Stewart
12 - Coca-Cola Ford; Andretti and Ricciardo
13 - VW; Bellof and R Schumacher
(26 is the right number of drivers on the grid)
And they'd race at these circuits:
01 - Interlagos (current layout is fine)
02 - Termas Rio Honda (current MotoGP layout)
03 - Motorland Aragon (current MotoGP layout, except the section between turns 12 and 15 is bypassed)
04 - Monaco (1991 layout)
05 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve (current layout)
06 - Grand Prix of Portland (current layout)
07 - Paul Ricard (1985 layout)
08 - Silverstone (1985 layout)
09 - Norisring (current layout)
10 - Istambul Park
11 - Spa (1991 layout)
12 - Monza (1991 layout)
13 - Baku
14 - Singapore (2008 layout with nasty chincane)
15 - Yeongam (interesting circuit, quite underrated, as always Tilke messed it up)
16 - Suzuka (1991 layout)
17 - Adelaide
(17 is the right number of GPs)
9-6-4-3-2-1 point system, but only 4 worse results are excluded.
Edited by Atreiu, 17 December 2019 - 16:31.
#8
Posted 17 December 2019 - 19:54
Keke was a very fast, very brave and very cool champion, who in that time period was regularly taking it to the turbos whilst sitting in the Cosworth powered Williams. In full flight he was a joy to watch. Very similar in approach and style to Montoya whom I paired him with.Interestingly I didn't think of Brawn. Which, ofcourse, should have been included on my list.
What's the reason you put Keke Rosberg on the list?
#9
Posted 17 December 2019 - 19:57
Haha, don't overthink it too much. Your assumption is correct. Let's leave it with that. Great list you've added.
But you do think the Schumacher post leg injury was better than the hungry and highly motivated Schumacher of 1996? Because that was my doubt. I was dubbing between Schumacher of 1996 and 2004.
IMO anything between 1995-2001/02 does fit with Schumacher, in doubt I would take more exprience, so 2001/02-ish.
By 2004 Schumacher wasnt at his best anymore imo, it just happened to be the best car he has ever driven.
#10
Posted 17 December 2019 - 20:25
What about this:
2003 Montoya in the F2003GA paired with 2008 Massa
2003 Schumacher in the MP4-17D paired with 2003 Alonso
2003 Raikkonen in the FW25 paiured with 1998 Hakkinen
=D
#11
Posted 18 December 2019 - 08:18
IMO anything between 1995-2001/02 does fit with Schumacher, in doubt I would take more exprience, so 2001/02-ish.
By 2004 Schumacher wasnt at his best anymore imo, it just happened to be the best car he has ever driven.
I would say he was as hungry as ever in 2004. Yet the more I think about it, the more I would have picked the 1996 Schumacher. He was just epic at times.
Keke was a very fast, very brave and very cool champion, who in that time period was regularly taking it to the turbos whilst sitting in the Cosworth powered Williams. In full flight he was a joy to watch. Very similar in approach and style to Montoya whom I paired him with.
Fair comment. Good choice. Also the Red Bull of 2011 would give Rosberg and Montoya a seriously good car.
#12
Posted 18 December 2019 - 09:44
Here goes. That BoP had better be good, Beri, or we’ll have to stick this lot in the W Series fleet of cars.
Mercedes 1955
Fangio
Senna
McLaren 1988
Schumacher
Hamilton
Alfa Romeo 1950
Clark
Prost
Williams 1992
Nazzaro
Stewart
Fiat 1907
Nuvolari
Alonso
Mercedes 1914
Carracciola
Moss
Mercedes 2014
Boillot
Benoist
Ferrari 1961
Vettel
Lauda
Red Bull 2012
Andretti
Varzi
Bugatti 1929
Fittipaldi
Rosemeyer
It hurts to relegate Brabham, Lautenschlager and Verstappen to simulator roles, and to see all the Villeneuves, Hills and Ascaris heading for Formula E, but I’ve stuck to twenty entries. Have been too lazy to specify years for drivers; most have multiple years on top anyway.
No teams from Lotus, Panhard, Peugeot, Cooper and Delage until Liberty can fund extra places. Left out 1937 Mercedes to avoid complaints about boring domination, but Mercedes appear three times, as the rules don’t actually forbid it. (A much-honoured racing principle).
#13
Posted 18 December 2019 - 10:21
and to see all the Villeneuves, Hills and Ascaris heading for Formula E, but I’ve stuck to twenty entries.
In the words of Tim The Tool Man Taylor, "[They] could go to Indy!"
#14
Posted 18 December 2019 - 12:02
Here goes. That BoP had better be good, Beri, or we’ll have to stick this lot in the W Series fleet of cars.
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It hurts to relegate Brabham, Lautenschlager and Verstappen to simulator roles, and to see all the Villeneuves, Hills and Ascaris heading for Formula E, but I’ve stuck to twenty entries. Have been too lazy to specify years for drivers; most have multiple years on top anyway.
No teams from Lotus, Panhard, Peugeot, Cooper and Delage until Liberty can fund extra places. Left out 1937 Mercedes to avoid complaints about boring domination, but Mercedes appear three times, as the rules don’t actually forbid it. (A much-honoured racing principle).
The BOP is whatever you want it to be ;-)
So lets say its good!
I find it great that you have gone beyond Post War Grand Prix racing. I havent done that, otherwise Carraciola, Nuvolari and Lang would have made my list also.