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#101 Anja

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 13:38

https://www.racefans...20-f1-launches/

 

Alfa and Haas on first day of testing, same for Williams but they'll present a livery on an old car and renders of the new one on the 17th.



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#102 statman

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 16:48

so just Red Bull left to announce!



#103 Beri

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 19:27

So Williams having a separate livery and chassis launch. A livery launch wouldn't be necessary if there isn't anything new to launch. So, what will it be?

#104 Anja

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 19:44

It doesn't have to be a big change. This often means just an official "season launch" - a nice, posh event without much meaning made up mostly for the sponsors' sake. A livery reveal is just an extra excuse for it even if there's not much new to actually reveal. 


Edited by Anja, 24 January 2020 - 19:49.


#105 Ivanhoe

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 19:48

Probably the introduction and some exposure for new sponsor Lavazza



#106 Beri

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 08:41

It doesn't have to be a big change. This often means just an official "season launch" - a nice, posh event without much meaning made up mostly for the sponsors' sake. A livery reveal is just an extra excuse for it even if there's not much new to actually reveal.


I don't think so. To me, it's illogical to host and spend a lot of money on an event, when two days later you have the whole media circus at Barcelona anyway. If the livery doesn't change a lot, then I seriously wonder why they host such an event.

#107 Owen

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 12:35

So Williams having a separate livery and chassis launch. A livery launch wouldn't be necessary if there isn't anything new to launch. So, what will it be?

Immediate thought is RoKIT Red livery, like other RoKIT sponsored cars.

#108 Anja

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Posted 27 January 2020 - 12:41

https://www.racefans...-at-first-test/

 

How hilarious. Such a high-tech sport, so much money everywhere, but getting a group picture with the cars once a year is apparently too hard to organize. 



#109 Owen

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Posted 27 January 2020 - 12:59

https://www.racefans...-at-first-test/

 

How hilarious. Such a high-tech sport, so much money everywhere, but getting a group picture with the cars once a year is apparently too hard to organize. 

So Formula 1.



#110 BRG

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Posted 27 January 2020 - 15:03

https://www.racefans...-at-first-test/

 

How hilarious. Such a high-tech sport, so much money everywhere, but getting a group picture with the cars once a year is apparently too hard to organize. 

Good grief.  Can't someone strap on a pair and TELL them to turn up or go home?  Wimps.



#111 Beri

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Posted 27 January 2020 - 15:51

https://www.racefans...-at-first-test/

How hilarious. Such a high-tech sport, so much money everywhere, but getting a group picture with the cars once a year is apparently too hard to organize.


The reasons named, are that I can understand. Yet, Liberty should grow a pair and mandate it. Or retract some of the financial backing/prize money if they do not show up. Let's see how quickly those pictures can be taken.

#112 BRG

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Posted 27 January 2020 - 16:15

The reasons named, are that I can understand. Yet, Liberty should grow a pair and mandate it. Or retract some of the financial backing/prize money if they do not show up. Let's see how quickly those pictures can be taken.

Exactly.  It is part of the show, part of Liberty's work to promote the series in the interests of all the teams and their sponsors.  Drivers and team principals have to turn up at press conferences, so how is this different?  It would take about 15 minutes for any normal group of racers (although I know that being F1, they would manage to spin it out to several hours).  They could do it the evening before testing starts.

 

The teams' refusal is just part of the malaise that affects F1.  



#113 RA2

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 10:24

Any hope of Renault ditching the black?

 

Would like to see a change to

f1-barcelona-test-2002-jarno-trulli-rena

 

or

 

doss_sh_34.jpg


Edited by RA2, 28 January 2020 - 10:26.


#114 baddog

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 10:29

No more fisher price renaults please 2005-6 was bad enough



#115 Beri

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 10:58

Oh dear that white and yellow is hideous.

#116 Ivanhoe

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:15

Wouldn’t mind a touch of white

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#117 Beri

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:31

It's a matter of taste. I don't like it.

#118 RA2

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 12:14

Oh dear that white and yellow is hideous.

 

 

Really? I thought everyone loved the 1979-80 livery 


Edited by RA2, 28 January 2020 - 13:07.


#119 Beri

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 13:19

Really? I thought everyone loved the 1979-80 livery


Sorry, not me.

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#120 SenorSjon

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 14:31

Any hope of Renault ditching the black?

 

Would like to see a change to

f1-barcelona-test-2002-jarno-trulli-rena

 

or

 

doss_sh_34.jpg

 

A yoghurt-vanilla vs an unmarked pack of Mild Sevens... Very bland.

 

Really? I thought everyone loved the 1979-80 livery 

 

Bwegh. I'm not from that era though, so the JPS liveries for instance did nothing for me and I was glad we finally lost that with the departure of Lotus, Team Lotus and (not so) Rich Energy.



#121 RA2

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 15:22

unmarked pack of Mild Sevens... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Renault use a lot of blue

 

Blue is also the french racing colour

 

So who cares about cigarettes these days 



#122 Otaku

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 20:02

Really? I thought everyone loved the 1979-80 livery 

 

But this
moteurs-turbo-chez-renault.jpg

 

 

is quite different than this

renault-f1-r28-01.jpg

 

 

The 1st is waaaaaaay better.



#123 Marklar

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Posted 29 January 2020 - 18:22

Red Bull will have a rollout/filming day on the 12th february according to Marko



#124 Marklar

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 14:40

Williams on 17th february 8 am GMT (online)

https://www.racefans...h-for-2020-car/

#125 statman

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 15:01

updated the OP. Time goes by quickly, we're already in February!



#126 PayasYouRace

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 16:50

FYI

 

 

By the way, fans of particular teams are free to start individual 2020 team and technical threads.

 

We already have a Williams team thread here: https://forums.autos...ms-racing-2020/

 

And a Mercedes W11 technical thread here: https://forums.autos...1-w11-eq-power/

 



#127 PayasYouRace

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:38

Literally after I posted for you guys to start new team threads. What is it with the aversion to starting new threads with you guys?

#128 Anja

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:40

Literally after I posted for you guys to start new team threads. What is it with the aversion to starting new threads with you guys?

 

I think the high standard of certain OPs might be a little intimidating for some  :p



#129 midgrid

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:21

I've split the Haas launch discussion into a new Haas VF-20 technical thread.  Please continue Haas-centric discussion there, and don't be shy in creating your own team/car threads!



#130 statman

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:45

possible new colour scheme on the Williams?

 

https://twitter.com/...708245836271616



#131 Ali623

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:55

possible new colour scheme on the Williams?

 

https://twitter.com/...708245836271616

 

Reckon it'll look similar to the Rokit Venturi FE livery



#132 taz

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 10:37

Reckon it'll look similar to the Rokit Venturi FE livery

But then it would like very similar to the Haas livery



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Posted 07 February 2020 - 11:51

But then it would like very similar to the Haas livery

No it wouldn't, as seen below the color red is much more present. But I agree the white top of the nose is something that would be in need of change to prevent confusion. But the color red is being a "red line" through Williams' rumors for some time now. And they certainly are not dismissing it with videos like this.

ROKiT-Venturi-Racing-Mortara.jpg
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Posted 07 February 2020 - 12:50

Haas.... first out of the box, the chance to do something amazing and new...

And then they do a painting by numbers ‘rent a livery’. Urgh.

No wonder there’s zero buzz about it.

NEXT!

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 12:54

Haas.... first out of the box, the chance to do something amazing and new...

And then they do a painting by numbers ‘rent a livery’. Urgh.

No wonder there’s zero buzz about it.

NEXT!

 

Out of all the braindead pre-season comments we get, this one is always the worst...

 

"**** brand-identity, just give me a cool, unassociated livery"



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Posted 07 February 2020 - 13:05

No it wouldn't, as seen below the color red is much more present. But I agree the white top of the nose is something that would be in need of change to prevent confusion. But the color red is being a "red line" through Williams' rumors for some time now. And they certainly are not dismissing it with videos like this.

ROKiT-Venturi-Racing-Mortara.jpg
dyaxcu6agfvb_std1024.jpg

 

At a glance when someone is ploughing in the tire wall you can't see if it is Grosjean or a Williams.



#137 JeePee

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 13:11

At a glance when someone is ploughing in the tire wall you can't see if it is Grosjean or a Williams.

Definitely Grosjean.



#138 JavierDeVivre

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 14:05

It doesn't have to be a big change. This often means just an official "season launch" - a nice, posh event without much meaning made up mostly for the sponsors' sake. A livery reveal is just an extra excuse for it even if there's not much new to actually reveal.

This is the case for most teams, the launch is merely a corporate event, featuring a car that is different to the one they will arrive at the test with and that will line up on the grid in Australia.

I can see why teams do it considering how much exposure those cars get, if they showed their actual car their designs would end up being copied before the season started.

I do prefer a launch that features an actual car though, the digital renderings just aren't the same.

Edited by JavierDeVivre, 07 February 2020 - 14:09.


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Posted 07 February 2020 - 17:37

Does Gary Anderson ever shut up about steering lock and the effect on the airflow?
We get it Gary, you”d realized that 30 years ago, now everybody knows it as wel, job done! Now go stand in the corner and glitter like a proper Gary.

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#140 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 17:43

Does Gary Anderson ever shut up about steering lock and the effect on the airflow?
We get it Gary, you”d realized that 30 years ago, now everybody knows it as wel, job done! Now go stand in the corner and glitter like a proper Gary.


He has to tell it over and over because of the new fans who were not around 30 years ago.

Actually it is worriying thought that journos often overlook newbies and write in a manner intended for an audience that is around for the past 30 years

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 21:24

Out of all the braindead pre-season comments we get, this one is always the worst...

"**** brand-identity, just give me a cool, unassociated livery"


They binned it off themselves for a few tins of energy drink, so they don’t feel so ‘associated’ with it themselves it seems.

#142 statman

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 14:22

according to Corriere della Sera, Ferrari might be going to a different color red, 80s red:

 

When Ferrari presented a car for the first time last year without a high gloss, but with a matte finish, many people felt that the manufacturer had opted for a too bright red color. As a result, the SF90 almost got an orange glow in a certain light. For 2020, the matte paint is retained for weight reduction, but a darker red color is chosen. This color would be comparable to the colors that the team used in the 1980s...In addition, some details of the car with which Gilles Villeneuve, among others, raced, would also return. One of them is the design of the start numbers that will be large and white, framed with another white border.



#143 JRodrigues

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 15:08

One of them is the design of the start numbers that will be large and white, framed with another white border.

 

ferrari27.jpg

 

:love:  :love:



#144 BRG

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 15:22

according to Corriere della Sera, Ferrari might be going to a different color red, 80s red:

If true. GOOD.  They look absolutely horrible in the 2019 colour.  If you are going to run in the traditional racing colours of Italy, then use the proper shade.

 

I am not called BRG for nothing.....  ;)



#145 SenorSjon

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 15:28

Crimson red like they used until Marlbore Red came in 1996 (and had a short return in a metallic version in 2007/08) would be very nice.

 

The border around numbers was last used in 1994 on the T1. The T2 had solid numbers. The gold rims would be nice as well.

 

 

He has to tell it over and over because of the new fans who were not around 30 years ago.

Actually it is worriying thought that journos often overlook newbies and write in a manner intended for an audience that is around for the past 30 years

 

Usually commentators here explain everything again and again every session. As if you are new every race.



#146 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 15:34

It was Scarlett not Crimson before 1996

#147 Spillage

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 16:39

Mercedes launch their new livery: https://twitter.com/...9852763139?s=19

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 20:04

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Someone posted this on reddit. A little hint of the livery for Williams  :clap:



#149 PayasYouRace

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 20:09

Getting Valvoline vibes.



#150 midgrid

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 20:10

Large numbers are always good.

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