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#101 TerryS

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Posted 26 October 2021 - 03:22

Just received today in the mail the latest issue #126.

 

Feature is on the 75th anniversary of Falcon GTHO Phase 111. This covers 20 pages , including some fascinating details on various engines used.

 

The Muscle Man is Allan Horsley, a worthy recipient. As well as  being Oran Park Promoter for many years, he was later Mazda Australia Motorsport Manager.

 

In his opinion the most talented and most admired driver in Australia was Niel Allen. I wholeheartedly and completely agree

 

Also very interesting article on the McGee family of fuel injection and camshaft fame.



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#102 TerryS

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Posted 18 May 2022 - 04:44

Received in the mail today the latest issue #130.

 

Must commend the part 2 of article on Andrew Miedecke. Very informative and the details are very well written. Lot of info not previously known

 

Its fascinating to read how he learned to handle the turbocharged Ford Sierra.

 

Great to see he sells 500 cars a month in Port Macquarie and Taree in northern NSW through a wide range of brands.

 

Must comment on the magazine cover . Just a green bonnet. IMHO I think it is the worst cover I have ever seen. It is hardly likely to get the punter in the newsagency to pick it out and buy it. 


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#103 TerryS

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Posted 02 September 2022 - 00:59

Just received the latest AMC, issue 132.

 

IMHO it is one of the best for a long time, (maybe that just reflects my interests)

 

There are very good obituaries on Max Stahl and Niel Allen by the illustrious Ray Bell (although he doesn't mention Niel racing the Mini)

 

I particularly liked the 16 page article on Hans Tiepermann and the Grace Bros. Racing Team. He helped so many young drivers along their way. Includes great photos

 

Also liked the 11 page article on "Team Party House", a group of Sydney friends from when racing was fun and relatively inexpensive,. Again some great phots of sports sedans.



#104 Ray Bell

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Posted 02 September 2022 - 07:45

We do have a member of Team Party House posting on TNF...

 

I'm sure he could recall times when people, quickly reading the name on the side of a car, thought it was Team Panty Hose



#105 Paul Newby

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Posted 03 September 2022 - 06:56

Just received the latest AMC, issue 132.

 

IMHO it is one of the best for a long time, (maybe that just reflects my interests)

 

There are very good obituaries on Max Stahl and Niel Allen by the illustrious Ray Bell (although he doesn't mention Niel racing the Mini)

 

I particularly liked the 16 page article on Hans Tiepermann and the Grace Bros. Racing Team. He helped so many young drivers along their way. Includes great photos

 

Also liked the 11 page article on "Team Party House", a group of Sydney friends from when racing was fun and relatively inexpensive,. Again some great phots of sports sedans.

 

The Hans Tiepermann story was more than 12 months in the making. The original inspiration for the story was this thread that I created back in 2003: https://forums.autos...pionship/page-2

 

Also my research for the John Leffler profile segued on to Hans Tiepermann of course as well as Team Party House, which I thought about doing as a column before David Cook came along and wrote the definitive story on this crazy era - I'm looking forward to reading that feature soon.



#106 Ray Bell

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Posted 03 September 2022 - 11:07

I doubt that anyone who never entered the Party House in its heyday could properly write about it...

 

A story with a real difference.



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Posted 03 September 2022 - 21:44

We do have a member of Team Party House posting on TNF...

 

I'm sure he could recall times when people, quickly reading the name on the side of a car, thought it was Team Panty Hose

The Team Partyhouse article is a good summary of the lifestyle some of us lived back in the late 60’s and early 70’s.  It is well written and was carefully researched.

 

Team Pantyhose was a small group of opposition sports sedan competitors who carried that signage on their cars for a short time as a light hearted way of mocking our group. I doubt that it really caused much confusion and faded pretty quickly as the group lacked the very real underlying strength of ‘family’ so well described in David Cook’s article. The team spirit which held the partyhouse group together all those years ago has never been lost and most of the survivors still provide strong mutual support.



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Posted 03 September 2022 - 22:16

Really good issue of AMC, agree totally with TerryS. Terrific story on Team Party House - I used to see the stickers on various cars in RCN reports back in the day and wonder what it was all about. Great nostalgia from the era. And your still out there racing Paul! Hats off to you. 

I took photos of the 600 in the pits at Amaroo in 1987 and thought you were doing well even back then!


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#109 Ray Bell

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Posted 04 September 2022 - 00:27

Sounds like 76 Fore Street will become a local tourist mecca...

 

And it sounds like I'll have to chase up a copy of the article. My mention of people thinking on first glance it was 'Panty hose' was from recollection of actually seeing people take a double-take in the pits and then turning to someone and saying that's what they thought they saw.

 

Or maybe I won't, perhaps Steve will mail me a copy because of the obits I did for him.



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Posted 10 September 2022 - 01:02

Cripes it's hard to find a decent newsagent these days!

 

The 'economic migrants' (ECOMIGs) who tend to buy them torch them with Agent Orange leaving nothing of value left. Anyway, I did find one in Collins Place (Melbourne) with AMC, it even had some of the better Pommie mags, but it has a For Sale sign up. A wonderful opportunity for an ECOMIG to buy it, torch it, and employ a bored disinterested student to collect Lotto fees without the undue clutter of interesting stock.

 

End of rant.

 

Thoroughly enjoyed #132, even the taxi-shite. Team Party House and Tiepermann, top marks. It's great that AMC, as it did from the start, provide good word limits for even the obscure, to cover them properly. That's rare.

 

It's amazing value at $10.99 too, the page/ad ratio is a tiny 20%. The number of happy-snaps in each article is a journos wet dream as well. Berghouse (whoever it is these days) owns them so Normoyle throws them around like confetti - and doesn't have to pay for them. Big competitive advantage.

 

A few things.

 

Arnel's FF Lola was/is a T440. Geoff Brabham's 274 was, I think, the ex-Neil Rear 274-018, a low mileage, late build car outta WA not Leo's 274-015. Alfie bought that car and thereby relaunched his career. With a bit more luck (read better preparation) Alf probably would have won the '75 title, arguably he was the quickest pilot that year, and given his relative experience to Geoff and Andrew you would have expected him to be.

 

I don't think it's right to say Miedecke was "Overlooked by Birrana either...". By the end of 1974 Birrana had finished building cars in production batches, so it wasn't in their interest to support him or anyone else. He could have bought one second hand of course, but I thought he chose a Rennmax in search of competitive advantage, rather than 'best available alternative'. Maybe Ray can speak to Bob about the why's and wherefores about this.

 

Minor niggles in a truly grouse piece!

 

'Bloody Leffo' and the P8. Here was Joycey's chance, Bob Jane had the money but Castrol diverted it to fuggin maxi-taxis. Now Leffo had some loot...here was a second chance for the P8 F5000, and he was a Bowin believer. Don't forget that by the end of 1974 the P8 F2 was pretty much the quickest car out there despite the Birranas having 2-3 years of ongoing development.

 

IF ONLY it was an el-cheapo Repco-Holden he came upon, rather than an Alan Smith Chev (??), the P8 could have slotted into the chassis as John Joyce designed and built it, rather than as Leffo and his boys adapted it. The critical bit was mating the engine and chassis, that was sub-optimal and the handling suffered accordingly. Other shortcomings including exhausts up in the airstream- affecting flow to the rear wing - and much bigger radiators/pods, both of which cost revs.

 

And yes, as a Bowin Tragic, I am biased, hopelessly so...

 

PS; Leffo clearly was a rising or variable rate suspension convert (Bowin's P6 and P8), the T400 Lola he chose was so equipped, and the T400's fan-club wasn't a big one amongst the F5000 elite


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Posted 12 September 2022 - 01:04

Cripes it's hard to find a decent newsagent these days!

 

The 'economic migrants' (ECOMIGs) who tend to buy them torch them with Agent Orange leaving nothing of value left. Anyway, I did find one in Collins Place (Melbourne) with AMC, it even had some of the better Pommie mags, but it has a For Sale sign up. A wonderful opportunity for an ECOMIG to buy it, torch it, and employ a bored disinterested student to collect Lotto fees without the undue clutter of interesting stock.

 

End of rant.

 

Thoroughly enjoyed #132, even the taxi-shite. Team Party House and Tiepermann, top marks. It's great that AMC, as it did from the start, provide good word limits for even the obscure, to cover them properly. That's rare.

 

It's amazing value at $10.99 too, the page/ad ratio is a tiny 20%. The number of happy-snaps in each article is a journos wet dream as well. Berghouse (whoever it is these days) owns them so Normoyle throws them around like confetti - and doesn't have to pay for them. Big competitive advantage.

 

A few things.

 

Arnel's FF Lola was/is a T440. Geoff Brabham's 274 was, I think, the ex-Neil Rear 274-018, a low mileage, late build car outta WA not Leo's 274-015. Alfie bought that car and thereby relaunched his career. With a bit more luck (read better preparation) Alf probably would have won the '75 title, arguably he was the quickest pilot that year, and given his relative experience to Geoff and Andrew you would have expected him to be.

 

I don't think it's right to say Miedecke was "Overlooked by Birrana either...". By the end of 1974 Birrana had finished building cars in production batches, so it wasn't in their interest to support him or anyone else. He could have bought one second hand of course, but I thought he chose a Rennmax in search of competitive advantage, rather than 'best available alternative'. Maybe Ray can speak to Bob about the why's and wherefores about this.

 

Minor niggles in a truly grouse piece!

 

'Bloody Leffo' and the P8. Here was Joycey's chance, Bob Jane had the money but Castrol diverted it to fuggin maxi-taxis. Now Leffo had some loot...here was a second chance for the P8 F5000, and he was a Bowin believer. Don't forget that by the end of 1974 the P8 F2 was pretty much the quickest car out there despite the Birranas having 2-3 years of ongoing development.

 

IF ONLY it was an el-cheapo Repco-Holden he came upon, rather than an Alan Smith Chev (??), the P8 could have slotted into the chassis as John Joyce designed and built it, rather than as Leffo and his boys adapted it. The critical bit was mating the engine and chassis, that was sub-optimal and the handling suffered accordingly. Other shortcomings including exhausts up in the airstream- affecting flow to the rear wing - and much bigger radiators/pods, both of which cost revs.

 

And yes, as a Bowin Tragic, I am biased, hopelessly so...

 

PS; Leffo clearly was a rising or variable rate suspension convert (Bowin's P6 and P8), the T400 Lola he chose was so equipped, and the T400's fan-club wasn't a big one amongst the F5000 elite

 

Thanks Mark for your kind words.

 

First up the Lyndon Arnel T440. I looked back at my interview notes with Lyndon and I had written Lola T400 and T440 a couple of times each. In my final copy I wrote down T400 – complete brain fade! Though I must say that Lyndon was down to test KB’s Lola T400 in 1978  but broke his leg when he crashed and wrote off the original T440 at Oran Park. I’m presuming that Editor Steve did a Google search that showed Arnel raced a T442 in 1977, which is incorrect - Lola never built a T442.

 

As for Miedecke and the Birrana. This is the way Andrew described the situation. As a Birrana (Formula Ford) F73 owner, Birrana didn’t think they needed to convince Miedecke that he should buy a 274 for the '75 F2 championship, so he wasn’t invited to a test where Geoff Brabham was given a drive in a 274. Miedecke took umbrage at this apparent snub and looked elsewhere for a car, in this case the new Rennmax BN7. Not for the first, or indeed last time Miedecke made the wrong call. The Rennmax had potential but lacked development whereas the Birrana was a proven winner. Whether he could have won the championship in the Birrana is a moot point, but he always believed he could beat Brabham in a straight fight.

 

Yes, I believe that Leffler would have had success with the Bowin B8 if it ran the Holden Repco engine. But I guessed Leffo and the Knott brothers were seduced by the power advantage of the Chev engine whilst overlooking the packaging issues that arose with its installation. A missed opportunity if ever there was one.



#112 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 September 2022 - 11:11

Having heard John Walker wax lyrical about the Repco-Holden engine in his Lola when he crashed at Sandown, I'm sure Leffo should have had a more open mind towards that engine...

 

With the final round of the Tasman Cup at Sandown and John in the box seat to win the title - something a Repco-built engine had never achieved - the team put his engine together with all the best bits and greatest care they could manage.

 

"I could pass anyone anywhere on the circuit!" John recorded. He wasn't worried about whether or not he got a good start because he knew he could pass anyone who beat him away.

 

But with the installation of the Chev they must have got it wrong somewhere. At Phillip Island the mounting plate at the back of the tub was flexing to the extent that the drive belt for the dry sump pump, running from the crank pulley to the pump mounted on the plate, kept flicking itself off.

 

Peter Molloy used to refer to the Leffo P8 as 'The Dragster' because it was so quick off the line, but with regard to the rising rate suspension I also like the story Leffo told about the long-awaited sorting session he had with the car as an F2. It was all arranged for Joyce to turn up at Oran Park and so he did, Knotty and John had been out there for a while, got the car warmed up and were ready to go as Joyce drove up in his old Holden.

 

"I expected him to have a variety of bars and springs," John said, "but all he had was a pyrometer in his pocket. I was so disappointed." But Joyce convinced him to get to work with what they had. Laps were put down, the pyrometer was put across the tyres, adjustments were made to the rising rate linkages, John would try again. And again and again. With what result?

 

"At the start of the day I was faster than the car," he said. "But by the time we finished I couldn't keep up with it, it was so fast! That guy was just amazing!"

 

I'll talk to Britto about Miedecke, but I can tell you he doesn't like remembering that episode in his life. Andrew pushed him pretty hard and it wore thin with Bob.



#113 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 13 September 2022 - 00:29

Thanks Mark for your kind words.

 

First up the Lyndon Arnel T440. I looked back at my interview notes with Lyndon and I had written Lola T400 and T440 a couple of times each. In my final copy I wrote down T400 – complete brain fade! Though I must say that Lyndon was down to test KB’s Lola T400 in 1978  but broke his leg when he crashed and wrote off the original T440 at Oran Park. I’m presuming that Editor Steve did a Google search that showed Arnel raced a T442 in 1977, which is incorrect - Lola never built a T442.

 

As for Miedecke and the Birrana. This is the way Andrew described the situation. As a Birrana (Formula Ford) F73 owner, Birrana didn’t think they needed to convince Miedecke that he should buy a 274 for the '75 F2 championship, so he wasn’t invited to a test where Geoff Brabham was given a drive in a 274. Miedecke took umbrage at this apparent snub and looked elsewhere for a car, in this case the new Rennmax BN7. Not for the first, or indeed last time Miedecke made the wrong call. The Rennmax had potential but lacked development whereas the Birrana was a proven winner. Whether he could have won the championship in the Birrana is a moot point, but he always believed he could beat Brabham in a straight fight.

 

Yes, I believe that Leffler would have had success with the Bowin B8 if it ran the Holden Repco engine. But I guessed Leffo and the Knott brothers were seduced by the power advantage of the Chev engine whilst overlooking the packaging issues that arose with its installation. A missed opportunity if ever there was one.

Packaging a Holden V8 v a Chev?? Really very little difference. Exhaust are  very similar. Dry sump pan is a very similar shape. cooling  is superior on the Chev. Distributor is in the same place. The Holden may be a little lighter but the Chev is far stronger. And makes a good deal more power. Repco made a half decent engine from the Holden but it was never a Chev.

IF the engine plate was flexing that is bad workmanship in installation. Exactly the same would happen to a Holden as well. It simple needed a stronger engine plate/s.

If you are worried about size use a 302W Ford. Smaller all around and should make better power than the Holden as well. And again a global engine. BUT very few used them as the Chev made more power. 

Having seen the 'trick' blocks Ford was playing with for tunnel  port and Boss engines for the period they were far better than the normal roadcar engine. And really the heavier Boss 302 should have been a good thing for 5000. Though those massive ports may have been too peaky

And the Chev is a global engine in the 70s unlike the Holden. So a LOT more development done. That in part was the power advantage.



#114 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 September 2022 - 02:57

Maybe not poor workmanship, Lee...

 

Their 'redesign' for the mount needed more thought, I'd say.



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Posted 03 September 2023 - 00:46

AMC issue #139 is a corker...

 

23% of the editorial content is 'open-wheeler' stuff FFS!

 

My two-penneth of advice to Steve a few years ago when I wrote a couple of pieces was to change the magazine name to 'AMC' and gradually run an article or two on insidious 'Australian' rice-burners, plus single-seaters and sportscars - only the fully-sick ones with cast-iron V8 donks of course. 

 

Normoyle is a single-seater bloke, but his comment was that he can't afford to stray from the loyal core. Gotta respect that given the slippery-hard-copy-magazine slope. Still, AMC's core are dying daily. 

 

Of the 108 pages only 17 are ads, 23% is a 'kin tiny number! I talk endlessly about the economics of two other publications with their owners, that is ****-all. Over 50% is the norm, in relative terms AMC must sell well. Its photo costs are tiny, given Chevron 'own' (ask some of the photographers) the happy snaps but the economics of the mag must be pretty good. That Normoyle writes so well helps, in #138 he's written three of eight features, so still plenty of variety stylistically within.

 

Paul Newby's Graeme Lawrence piece is a cracker, and he got a trip out of it!, so it's thorough, with part 2 to come. Well done pal, I learn't a few things I didn't know, and I'm a fan-boy.

 

Mark Oastler's Repco-Holden V8 piece was clearly done quickly from memory, there are plenty of giggles for RBE and REDCO buffs within. The build list is valuable tho, not seen that before.

 

Bathurst '73 is done in three fabulous parts, two by Steve and one by David Hassall. Just magic, lotsa detail and beautifully written. 

 

It makes me angry tho, our Touring Car racing was so good, it was sodomised so long ago, pasteurised and homogenised as well. Whaddya thing Cromply?, couldn't agree more Skaifo, yada-yaadda...'Maaate, I'm having trouble managing all my conflicts of interest...' 

 

Itsa buy folks...tho quite why Freddo's Ute is on the cover who knows, still I'm not one of the core taxi-boganisti.


Edited by MarkBisset, 03 September 2023 - 02:12.


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Posted 06 September 2023 - 01:20

AMC issue #139 is a corker...

 

Of the 108 pages only 17 are ads, 23% is a 'kin tiny number! I talk endlessly about the economics of two other publications with their owners, that is ****-all. Over 50% is the norm, in relative terms AMC must sell well. Its photo costs are tiny, given Chevron 'own' (ask some of the photographers) the happy snaps but the economics of the mag must be pretty good. That Normoyle writes so well helps, in #138 he's written three of eight features, so still plenty of variety stylistically within.

 

 

With due respect I feel I must comment on your numbers

 

There are 108 numbered pages but if you look back the first two pages are the cover and inside cover. To be consistent you have to add the inside back cover and the back cover, making a total of 110 pages..

 

By my calcs there are 26 pages of ads. This equates to 24% of the total pages.

 

This is far better than the number quoted in post # 69 above which was only 13.2%.

 

This will make the mag far more viable for us adoring readers.



#117 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 September 2023 - 01:58

The number of pages has to be divisible by four, Terry...

 

108 or 112? And it includes front and back covers, inside and out.



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Posted 06 September 2023 - 03:48

The number of pages has to be divisible by four, Terry...

 

108 or 112? And it includes front and back covers, inside and out.

 

Thanks Ray, you are of course correct. The total page number has to be divisible by 4

 

I misread the last printed page number as 108 rather than the correct 106. I can only blame my poor old eyes.



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Posted 08 September 2023 - 02:44

AMC issue #139 is a corker...

 

23% of the editorial content is 'open-wheeler' stuff FFS!

 

My two-penneth of advice to Steve a few years ago when I wrote a couple of pieces was to change the magazine name to 'AMC' and gradually run an article or two on insidious 'Australian' rice-burners, plus single-seaters and sportscars - only the fully-sick ones with cast-iron V8 donks of course. 

 

Normoyle is a single-seater bloke, but his comment was that he can't afford to stray from the loyal core. Gotta respect that given the slippery-hard-copy-magazine slope. Still, AMC's core are dying daily. 

 

Of the 108 pages only 17 are ads, 23% is a 'kin tiny number! I talk endlessly about the economics of two other publications with their owners, that is ****-all. Over 50% is the norm, in relative terms AMC must sell well. Its photo costs are tiny, given Chevron 'own' (ask some of the photographers) the happy snaps but the economics of the mag must be pretty good. That Normoyle writes so well helps, in #138 he's written three of eight features, so still plenty of variety stylistically within.

 

Paul Newby's Graeme Lawrence piece is a cracker, and he got a trip out of it!, so it's thorough, with part 2 to come. Well done pal, I learn't a few things I didn't know, and I'm a fan-boy.

 

Mark Oastler's Repco-Holden V8 piece was clearly done quickly from memory, there are plenty of giggles for RBE and REDCO buffs within. The build list is valuable tho, not seen that before.

 

Bathurst '73 is done in three fabulous parts, two by Steve and one by David Hassall. Just magic, lotsa detail and beautifully written. 

 

It makes me angry tho, our Touring Car racing was so good, it was sodomised so long ago, pasteurised and homogenised as well. Whaddya thing Cromply?, couldn't agree more Skaifo, yada-yaadda...'Maaate, I'm having trouble managing all my conflicts of interest...' 

 

Itsa buy folks...tho quite why Freddo's Ute is on the cover who knows, still I'm not one of the core taxi-boganisti.



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Posted 10 September 2023 - 12:34

AMC issue #139 is a corker...

 

23% of the editorial content is 'open-wheeler' stuff FFS!

 

My two-penneth of advice to Steve a few years ago when I wrote a couple of pieces was to change the magazine name to 'AMC' and gradually run an article or two on insidious 'Australian' rice-burners, plus single-seaters and sportscars - only the fully-sick ones with cast-iron V8 donks of course. 

 

Normoyle is a single-seater bloke, but his comment was that he can't afford to stray from the loyal core. Gotta respect that given the slippery-hard-copy-magazine slope. Still, AMC's core are dying daily. 

 

Of the 108 pages only 17 are ads, 23% is a 'kin tiny number! I talk endlessly about the economics of two other publications with their owners, that is ****-all. Over 50% is the norm, in relative terms AMC must sell well. Its photo costs are tiny, given Chevron 'own' (ask some of the photographers) the happy snaps but the economics of the mag must be pretty good. That Normoyle writes so well helps, in #138 he's written three of eight features, so still plenty of variety stylistically within.

 

Paul Newby's Graeme Lawrence piece is a cracker, and he got a trip out of it!, so it's thorough, with part 2 to come. Well done pal, I learn't a few things I didn't know, and I'm a fan-boy.

 

Mark Oastler's Repco-Holden V8 piece was clearly done quickly from memory, there are plenty of giggles for RBE and REDCO buffs within. The build list is valuable tho, not seen that before.

 

Bathurst '73 is done in three fabulous parts, two by Steve and one by David Hassall. Just magic, lotsa detail and beautifully written. 

 

It makes me angry tho, our Touring Car racing was so good, it was sodomised so long ago, pasteurised and homogenised as well. Whaddya thing Cromply?, couldn't agree more Skaifo, yada-yaadda...'Maaate, I'm having trouble managing all my conflicts of interest...' 

 

Itsa buy folks...tho quite why Freddo's Ute is on the cover who knows, still I'm not one of the core taxi-boganisti.

 

 

 

Hi Mark, thanks for the kind comments re the Graeme Lawrence profile. I won’t spoil part 2 in the next issue or my as yet unwritten column, which is a result of some of the research that I did for the Lawrence bio.

 

I do wish that Chevron were paying expenses. Alas it works the other way. I can justify a two week family holiday (I have a family of three) to New Zealand when I can fit in interviews with potential muscle men profiles – in this case two two-parters on Robbie Francevic and Graeme Lawrence.

 

The fees from writing the stories subsidise two-thirds to three-quarters the cost of the trip. It’s a win-win situation. My family get a nice holiday with a little bit of motor racing stuff thrown in – I also went to the George Begg Festival at Teretonga – and I get to interview two Kiwi racing greats. With Robbie F, I doubt that he would have been keen to do an interview over the phone.



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Posted 15 September 2023 - 03:10

I was just rereading Paul Newby's part 2 of Max Stewart's story in issue 123.

 

There is an error in relation to the engine that Max used in his March 722 in the 1974 Van Heusen Series. 

 

It was NOT a Cosworth FVC as stated as such engine would not have been allowed in the F2 based series.

 

It was actually a twin cam engine fitted with a unique downdraft head. It was not successful and it was not continued with. I don't recall anyone else here or overseas trying such an arrangement.

 

I remember seeing it in the pits and it looked very different and nice



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Posted 18 September 2023 - 01:22

AMC issue #139 is a corker...

 

23% of the editorial content is 'open-wheeler' stuff FFS!

 

My two-penneth of advice to Steve a few years ago when I wrote a couple of pieces was to change the magazine name to 'AMC' and gradually run an article or two on insidious 'Australian' rice-burners, plus single-seaters and sportscars - only the fully-sick ones with cast-iron V8 donks of course. 

 

Normoyle is a single-seater bloke, but his comment was that he can't afford to stray from the loyal core. Gotta respect that given the slippery-hard-copy-magazine slope. Still, AMC's core are dying daily. 

 

Of the 108 pages only 17 are ads, 23% is a 'kin tiny number! I talk endlessly about the economics of two other publications with their owners, that is ****-all. Over 50% is the norm, in relative terms AMC must sell well. Its photo costs are tiny, given Chevron 'own' (ask some of the photographers) the happy snaps but the economics of the mag must be pretty good. That Normoyle writes so well helps, in #138 he's written three of eight features, so still plenty of variety stylistically within.

 

Paul Newby's Graeme Lawrence piece is a cracker, and he got a trip out of it!, so it's thorough, with part 2 to come. Well done pal, I learn't a few things I didn't know, and I'm a fan-boy.

 

Mark Oastler's Repco-Holden V8 piece was clearly done quickly from memory, there are plenty of giggles for RBE and REDCO buffs within. The build list is valuable tho, not seen that before.

 

Bathurst '73 is done in three fabulous parts, two by Steve and one by David Hassall. Just magic, lotsa detail and beautifully written. 

 

It makes me angry tho, our Touring Car racing was so good, it was sodomised so long ago, pasteurised and homogenised as well. Whaddya thing Cromply?, couldn't agree more Skaifo, yada-yaadda...'Maaate, I'm having trouble managing all my conflicts of interest...' 

 

Itsa buy folks...tho quite why Freddo's Ute is on the cover who knows, still I'm not one of the core taxi-boganisti.



#123 TerryS

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Posted 18 September 2023 - 01:31

 

AMC issue #139 is a corker...

 

23% of the editorial content is 'open-wheeler' stuff FFS!

 

My two-penneth of advice to Steve a few years ago when I wrote a couple of pieces was to change the magazine name to 'AMC' and gradually run an article or two on insidious 'Australian' rice-burners, plus single-seaters and sportscars - only the fully-sick ones with cast-iron V8 donks of course. 

 

Normoyle is a single-seater bloke, but his comment was that he can't afford to stray from the loyal core. Gotta respect that given the slippery-hard-copy-magazine slope. Still, AMC's core are dying daily. 

 

Of the 108 pages only 17 are ads, 23% is a 'kin tiny number! I talk endlessly about the economics of two other publications with their owners, that is ****-all. Over 50% is the norm, in relative terms AMC must sell well. Its photo costs are tiny, given Chevron 'own' (ask some of the photographers) the happy snaps but the economics of the mag must be pretty good. That Normoyle writes so well helps, in #138 he's written three of eight features, so still plenty of variety stylistically within.

 

Paul Newby's Graeme Lawrence piece is a cracker, and he got a trip out of it!, so it's thorough, with part 2 to come. Well done pal, I learn't a few things I didn't know, and I'm a fan-boy.

 

Mark Oastler's Repco-Holden V8 piece was clearly done quickly from memory, there are plenty of giggles for RBE and REDCO buffs within. The build list is valuable tho, not seen that before.

 

Bathurst '73 is done in three fabulous parts, two by Steve and one by David Hassall. Just magic, lotsa detail and beautifully written. 

 

It makes me angry tho, our Touring Car racing was so good, it was sodomised so long ago, pasteurised and homogenised as well. Whaddya thing Cromply?, couldn't agree more Skaifo, yada-yaadda...'Maaate, I'm having trouble managing all my conflicts of interest...' 

 

Itsa buy folks...tho quite why Freddo's Ute is on the cover who knows, still I'm not one of the core taxi-boganisti.

 

  Your post seems to say only recent topics should be included in AMC. You imply Bathurst 1973 is too early as "AMC's core are dying daily"

 

How is it then that on your own eponymous site most of stories would not have many readers left.

 

The last five stories are quiet ancient and few left who were around then:

-    Mclaren racing sedans in 1965

-    1969 Hoda R800

-     1956 Cisitalia D46

-     1974 Peter Revson death

-     1968 start of Gold Leaf Team Lotus

 



#124 GreenMachine

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Posted 18 September 2023 - 02:17

Talking to yourself Terry? :rotfl:  :p

 

Mark, you might learn how to distinguish between the post you are quoting, and your response.

 

It makes hard work of what should be an easy quote/response read, at least for those of us playing at home.

 

Thanks Mark, Terry  :up:



#125 Paul Newby

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Posted 18 September 2023 - 06:29

I was just rereading Paul Newby's part 2 of Max Stewart's story in issue 123.

 

There is an error in relation to the engine that Max used in his March 722 in the 1974 Van Heusen Series. 

 

It was NOT a Cosworth FVC as stated as such engine would not have been allowed in the F2 based series.

 

It was actually a twin cam engine fitted with a unique downdraft head. It was not successful and it was not continued with. I don't recall anyone else here or overseas trying such an arrangement.

 

I remember seeing it in the pits and it looked very different and nice

 

Ok, this is what I actually wrote in AMC:

 

"Stewart sold the Elfin to Kiwi Baron Robertson and received Robertson's Formula Atlantic March 722 in return, which was seconded for Leffler to use in the Australian rounds of the 1974 Tasman series. Neither Leffler nor Stewart, who would race the Cosworth FVC-engined March in the big-dollar Van Heusen-sponsored 1974 Australian Formula 2 Championship, had much joy in this troublesome car."
 
So, yes your honour, I was wrong. However Leffler did race the March with the 2.0 FVC in the Tasman and Stewart raced it with a Twin Cam with a downdraught head and presumably Lucas fuel injection. I recall seeing a photograph of Stewart in the March in Graham Howard's excellent article on the '74 Van Heusen F2 Series in Motor Racing Australia magazine back in 2003. Stewart had even fitted an overhead  snorkel to the engine. It certainly looked odd.
 
I was certainly aware of the fitment of the Twin Cam when Stewart raced it, but I suppose I was trying to be economical with my words and it just came out wrong on the page - I should have referenced the Cosworth FVC descriptor when I first mentioned the March 722 - but these errors are easily made...


#126 TerryS

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Posted 19 September 2023 - 00:30

 

 

So, yes your honour, I was wrong. However Leffler did race the March with the 2.0 FVC in the Tasman and Stewart raced it with a Twin Cam with a downdraught head and presumably Lucas fuel injection. I recall seeing a photograph of Stewart in the March in Graham Howard's excellent article on the '74 Van Heusen F2 Series in Motor Racing Australia magazine back in 2003. Stewart had even fitted an overhead  snorkel to the engine. It certainly looked odd.
 
I was certainly aware of the fitment of the Twin Cam when Stewart raced it, but I suppose I was trying to be economical with my words and it just came out wrong on the page - I should have referenced the Cosworth FVC descriptor when I first mentioned the March 722 - but these errors are easily made...

 

Not wishing to be pedantic but for info:

 

The engine in the March 722 was of 1790 cc, not 2litre.

 

Leffler only ran in two rounds of 1974 Tasman series. He finished 8th and 9th.

 

This was pretty good when every other engine was a 5 litre Chev or Repco.



#127 TerryS

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Posted 09 February 2024 - 02:51

Just received the latest issue #142 in the mail. The one with Thomson's VW Chev on the cover.. IMHO it is one of the best.

 

The articles on the VW Chev, Ron Harrop and Glenn Dix are very very good.

 

Thoroughly recommended,