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Interview with Andy Cowell: the man leading Mercedes' dominant F1 engine division


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#1 jjcale

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 11:32

This could go elsewhere but it was such a revealing interview that I think it deserves its own thread (that said, mods - if you disagree, merge with any thread you see fit)

 

 

 

The whole thing is good but the part I want to draw attention to starts from about 39:20 where he assess the competitive position of the Merc engine vs Ferrari and Honda.... and basically he says the only advantage versus Farrari is reliability (and to a lesser extent drivablity).  And I interpret what he said about Honda is that he expects them to be as strong and he expects Redbull to Merc's main challenger next year as they are a better team overall than Ferrari and he rates MV very highly. 

 

Interestingly there was no mention of Ferrari's fuel flow issues.... I am not sure of the date when the interview was conducted. 

 

.... everyone makes predictions at this time of year but this guys knows what's up and he is predicting a 3 way battle.... so for me (despite his association with Toto "Ferrari is quicker this week" Wolf), the 3 way battle widely predicted for next year is now beyond just media hype and someone who can speak authoritatively has now come on the record told us that this is what is in store... Roll on 2020.   

 

And like I said, the whole of this interview should be a very interesting for those here who are into the technical side of the sport.  



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#2 rodlamas

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 11:53

This could go elsewhere but it was such a revealing interview that I think it deserves its own thread (that said, mods - if you disagree, merge with any thread you see fit)



The whole thing is good but the part I want to draw attention to starts from about 39:20 where he assess the competitive position of the Merc engine vs Ferrari and Honda.... and basically he says the only advantage versus Farrari is reliability (and to a lesser extent drivablity). And I interpret what he said about Honda is that he expects them to be as strong and he expects Redbull to Merc's main challenger next year as they are a better team overall than Ferrari and he rates MV very highly.

Interestingly there was no mention of Ferrari's fuel flow issues.... I am not sure of the date when the interview was conducted.

.... everyone makes predictions at this time of year but this guys knows what's up and he is predicting a 3 way battle.... so for me (despite his association with Toto "Ferrari is quicker this week" Wolf), the 3 way battle widely predicted for next year is now beyond just media hype and someone who can speak authoritatively has now come on the record told us that this is what is in store... Roll on 2020.

And like I said, the whole of this interview should be a very interesting for those here who are into the technical side of the sport.


For me Abu Dhabi showed how Ferrari is off the pace. 2020 will indeed be a 3-way fight: Max, Lewis & Valtteri.

#3 monolulu

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 13:11

Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed listening. 



#4 Marklar

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 15:16

I noticed a trend where Ferrari does better the more they are written off

2016: great testing, great build up season -> no single win
2017: reports of a slow car in the sim, Mercedes most impressive in pre-season, RB hyped as the biggest threat -> championship challenger
2018: terrible testing -> arguably the best car
2019: amazing testing -> meh

#5 BuddyHolly

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 15:18

For me Abu Dhabi showed how Ferrari is off the pace. 2020 will indeed be a 3-way fight: Max, Lewis & Valtteri.

Valtteri?  Well, maybe for the first 2-3 races..  :rotfl: 



#6 rodlamas

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 15:59

Man, I just listened to the whole interview and I think there are some conclusions to be drwan over a single comment

 

  • Andy says the 110kgs allowance is more than enough and you do not need to save any fuel unless you want to underfuel at the start of the race
  • Ferrari has been been usually caught having to save fuel during the races

If you add those two aspects together, what could you conclude? That Ferrari uses too much fuel or that maybe Mercedes does not use as much as Ferrari. And put that together with what has been going on for the last 10 weeks when we talk about the Ferrari ICE trickering the fuel flow meter...



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Posted 21 December 2019 - 16:01

Valtteri?  Well, maybe for the first 2-3 races..  :rotfl:

Mock Bottas at your peril mate...



#8 BobbyRicky

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 16:02

But has he been to Croydon?



#9 shure

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Posted 21 December 2019 - 16:03

Man, I just listened to the whole interview and I think there are some conclusions to be drwan over a single comment

 

  • Andy says the 110kgs allowance is more than enough and you do not need to save any fuel unless you want to underfuel at the start of the race
  • Ferrari has been been usually caught having to save fuel during the races

If you add those two aspects together, what could you conclude? That Ferrari uses too much fuel or that maybe Mercedes does not use as much as Ferrari. And put that together with what has been going on for the last 10 weeks when we talk about the Ferrari ICE trickering the fuel flow meter...

I don't think it's anything revelatory to say that Mercedes is fuel efficient and Ferrari has a drinking problem.  Has been that way for a while



#10 FPV GTHO

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Posted 22 December 2019 - 03:34

Maybe Ferrari just underfuel more to compensate for worse car performance.

#11 Requiem84

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Posted 22 December 2019 - 09:17

Maybe Ferrari just underfuel more to compensate for worse car performance.


Abu Dhabi agrees with you... errr ;)

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 11:45

I noticed a trend where Ferrari does better the more they are written off

2016: great testing, great build up season -> no single win
2017: reports of a slow car in the sim, Mercedes most impressive in pre-season, RB hyped as the biggest threat -> championship challenger
2018: terrible testing -> arguably the best car
2019: amazing testing -> meh

 

Yeah, the 2019 expectations where over inflated... a bit like 2016 maybe.

But for the sake of competition and having an interesting season next year I hope you're right :D

Tough it must be said that Ferrari still has a performance gulf to close before even thinking of surpassing Merc next year (thinking at Abu Dhabi)... it all depends if their concept of an outwash front wing, along with the new design ideas implemented from Singapore onwards can create a car which is also efficient but with good down-force so we don't run into tire issues again next year.


Edited by Unicast, 23 December 2019 - 11:45.