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#1 l8apex

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 18:55

I couldn't find a thread for this race, so I figured I better start one.

 

This is my favorite endurance race of the year.  The racing is great across all the classes and there are excellent guest drivers from all the top series of motorsports worldwide!

 

Here is a list of the cars and driver lineups: https://us.motorspor...y-list/4615878/

 

It looks like we have Alexander Rossi, Scott Dixon and Simon Pagenaud representing Indycar in the DPI class.  Kamui Kobayashi is also making an appearance in DPI for Wayne Taylor, I will probably have to root for this team since they also have Scott Dixon.  There are some other big name WEC drivers like Nicolas Lapierre and Nicki Thiim driving in the GTLM and GTD classes.  There are also lots of top talents doing full time IMSA like Nick Tandy in the 911, which is my favorite car in GTLM!  

 

Anyone else excited about this race and ready to kick off the season?  What are your favorite teams and drivers?



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#2 FLB

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 19:01

How long will the Mazdas last before catching fire?

 

 

39 cars is the smallest entry list in the event's history...



#3 l8apex

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 19:06

How long will the Mazdas last before catching fire?

 

 

39 cars is the smallest entry list in the event's history...

 

You probably reverse jinxed the Mazda's into winning!

 

39 cars is a bit sad.  There is still plenty of cars for great racing though, unlike Le Mans where they could just hand the top trophy to Toyota before ever starting the race.



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Posted 20 January 2020 - 19:09

How long will the Mazdas last before catching fire?

 

 

39 cars is the smallest entry list in the event's history...

Mazda will win, you heard it here first.



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Posted 20 January 2020 - 20:18

Mazda may not win, but having Joest in your corner will lead to eventual success.

 

Thing that make you go Hmmmmm: Mustang Sampling Racing, running a GM badged car.



#6 FLB

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 20:45

Mazda may not win, but having Joest in your corner will lead to eventual success.

 

 

Not according to Mazda.Joest is still officially there until Sebring (at least), but all indications are the team will become Multimatic afterwards:

 

https://racer.com/20...hidden-message/



#7 paulb

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 21:50

Don’t forget Shane Van Gisbergen and Kyle Busch in GTD Lexus’. Matthias Leist is driving a prototype IIRC.

Thanks for the OP!

As for favorites, I would love to see either Dixon or Bourdais win. LMP2 PR1 or Dragonspeed (Colin Braun). GTLM, Vanthoor Porsche or a Corvette.

GTD, #19 GEAR Racing Lamborghini.

Edited by paulb, 20 January 2020 - 21:55.


#8 jonpollak

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 22:17

I’m pulling for the 6 with Simon and Juan.
And like Mr. Paul B... our lovely #19

( prepare for copious copies of posts spamming liveries and personalities)

Like this one..


Here is my cliff notes account of my experience at the Roar on Friday.

I’ll tell the biggest story first since it speaks to the phenomenal, fan-friendly experience that is IMSA Weathertech.

As I warned, I was likely going to be spending too much time around the GEAR Racing Lamborghini. So I am standing outside the garage next to a cart where a gentleman is hanging out. I ask him if he is associated with the team, he says my name is Mark Ruggieri, the owner of GEAR Racing (background in sports management and marketing with some prior motorsports involvement). In my brain, I am doing a Snoopy dance because I cannot believe my good fortune. Mark is a super, super nice guy. He is enthusiastic and genuine. Not long after we started to chat he invited me into the garage where we continued our discussion (he said come by anytime). We talked about how GEAR came about (he has a young daughter who is a racing fan and he wanted to create a program to encourage women to race), the origin of the livery (have a go, Andy Blackmore! Christmas timeframe, the concept was his. They may keep the pop art theme for the season.), and how Lamborghini became the platform of choice (networking and drivers availability). Mark said the program took 8 weeks to put together! He made an interesting comment about Katherine Legge, saying she was leading the team like Tom Brady. I would say we talked a good 20 minutes or so. (GEAR wants to expand beyond IMSA, https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/gear-a-multi-faceted-initiative-plans-for-europe-nhra/)

In a later trip to the #19 garage, I met Kara Kenney, the global brand director of GEAR (also the CEO of The MPH Agency) and her associate. They were also very generous with their time to talk about the program. They provided my only swag, stickers of the #19.

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I briefly met three of the four drivers of the number 19, Legge, Nielsen, and Calderon. I basically wished them good luck, which they appreciated. Rahel Frey had not arrived at the track. Now for the Christina story. At the 19 garage again, Christina is getting her driving suit modified with black tape. See, there was a Honda racing logo on the front and it needed to be covered, hence the black tape. While they were doing that, I noticed Honda Racing displayed on the back. I mentioned that to Christina as she was walking away. She went back to her crewman to confirm the oversight and he took care of that blemish too. She laughed that she never looked at the back of the suit.

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There were a number of drivers besides the GEAR crew I wanted to meet and had the good fortune to. They included Andy Lally, Townsend Bell, and Shane Van Gisbergen. Van Gisbergen, I think, was trying to fly under the radar. I greeted him leaving his garage (I did not catch him on the way in) and wished him good luck. He kindly said thanks. The Aim Vasser Sullivan garages were always full of waiting fans and IMSA cameras, must have been the Kyle Busch effect. Not a driver, but Bill Riley is kind of a genius so I was happy to wish him good luck too.

The packaging on the AVS Lexus GTD is nuts.

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In the Michelin Pilot Challenge series, I knew that Hailie Deegan was driving for Ford in the GS class. I was standing across from the Pilot Challenge garages and before I knew it, she walked by in her driver suit. She was running competitive times in practice this morning, she definitely has talent.

Lastly, the new Corvettes are great looking race cars. They do not sound as distinctive as they used to, however. Such is progress. The Corvette team was great with the Scouts. I saw Dan Binks and Jordan Taylor spend time with the scouts and the leaders talking about the cars, signing swag, and patiently posing for pictures.

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To close this report, here is Juan Pablo Montoya, juandering around. :D
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Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 20 January 2020 - 22:18.


#9 paulb

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 01:02

38 cars, https://sportscar365...s-from-rolex-24

#10 maximilian

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 03:16

Ouch...  practice shunts hurt.

 

https://www.motorspo...lex-24/4666380/



#11 Victor_RO

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 07:17

Drivers I can spot doing the Daytona-Bathurst double:

 

Dane Cameron

Renger van der Zande

Scott Dixon

Oliver Jarvis

Daniel Serra

Matt Campbell

Laurens Vanthoor

Earl Bamber

Mathieu Jaminet

Patrick Pilet

Shane van Gisbergen

Marco Mapelli

Andrea Caldarelli

Alvaro Parente

Pedro Lamy

Mathias Lauda

Felipe Fraga

Mirko Bortolotti

Dries Vanthoor

 

Two Pro-class BMWs at Bathurst still listed with TBA drivers, so we might add 3 or 4 more double-duty drivers from there (Chaz Mostert almost certainly).



#12 ArnageWRC

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 12:08

Talking of doubles, 52 years ago Vic Elford did the Monte-Daytona double, both for Porsche, which I doubt will ever be repeated, especially as they are now on the same weekend. 



#13 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 15:36

The 19 is one of the best paintjobs I've seen in...ever. 

 

The Corvette looks crazy, but also not like a Corvette. If that makes sense. 



#14 paulb

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 17:33

The 19 is one of the best paintjobs I've seen in...ever.

You’re dating yourself, Ross. :D

The Corvette looks way better as a racecar than a roadcar.

#15 statman

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 18:24

Any idea if this is shown in Europe? I remember watching this on Eurosport, but I guess that's the not the case anymore.



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Posted 21 January 2020 - 18:55

Any idea if this is shown in Europe? I remember watching this on Eurosport, but I guess that's the not the case anymore.

According to IMSA's website, finding coverage in Europe should be as simple as navigating to IMSA.tv.

#17 ANF

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 19:07

According to IMSA's website, finding coverage in Europe should be as simple as navigating to IMSA.tv.

Also, according to the broadcast schedule, the flag-to-flag IMSA.tv broadcast will be "Available on TrackPass on NBC Sports Gold in the USA". https://www.imsa.com...olex-24-daytona

The same goes for the 4-hour Michelin Pilot Challenge race on Friday.



#18 jj2728

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 19:31

Always look forward to this race. The kick off to a new season.



#19 Risil

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 19:52

Hooray!

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#20 Risil

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 19:57

39 cars is a bit sad. There is still plenty of cars for great racing though, unlike Le Mans where they could just hand the top trophy to Toyota before ever starting the race.

At least compared to last year, the main difference comes from fewer entries in the GT Daytona class. Just the 17(!) this year.

I'd like to see more prototypes though.

#21 PiperPa42

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 20:01

Was looking forward to the race, but now I'm stuck at work on a platform with 1998 levels of internet :/ Even radio Le Mans isn't an option.

I hope you all enjoy the race, I can't wait to be back one day.

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 20:58

At least compared to last year, the main difference comes from fewer entries in the GT Daytona class. Just the 17(!) this year.

I'd like to see more prototypes though.

 

All the other classes seem a little thin for my liking, but GTD seems good. Is GTD functionally any different to GT3 everywhere else?



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Posted 21 January 2020 - 22:55

Was looking forward to the race, but now I'm stuck at work on a platform with 1998 levels of internet :/ Even radio Le Mans isn't an option.



I hope you all enjoy the race, I can't wait to be back one day.


Ahh that stinks Pa..
You deserve better
Jp

#24 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 23:01

All the other classes seem a little thin for my liking, but GTD seems good. Is GTD functionally any different to GT3 everywhere else?

 

It must be GT3 because you get things like the NSX? But...no Bentleys or McLarens and another car or two, so what gives?

 

I know Le Mans doesn't have a GT3 class, which is an absolute travesty. 



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Posted 21 January 2020 - 23:16

All the other classes seem a little thin for my liking, but GTD seems good. Is GTD functionally any different to GT3 everywhere else?

GTD follows FIA GT3 specs with IMSA's own BoP applied.  

 

But a customer can only enter their GT3 car if the manufacturer has already paid a large seasonal fee to IMSA to become an official partner.  This seems to have only escalated the amount of factory involvement and cost in GTD, while also cutting off popular cars if the factory doesn't see marketing value in IMSA GTD


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#26 FLB

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 23:22

Bia is pregnant!

 

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#27 azza200

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 23:39

Is the small field due to the regulations or something?



#28 jonpollak

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 23:51

Bia is pregnant!

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Well I guess that’s her ‘other commitments’ then.
a good reason not to be in the #19

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#29 68targa

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 19:34

Quality not quantity I guess.  There are some top rated pilots in all classes so we could well see some good battles.  Hope so anyway.



#30 tampaguy

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 21:56

I remember the massive entry list during the 70/80’s , the grandstand where empty but the infield was rocking...



#31 jonpollak

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 10:32

Qualifying is today.
Jp

#32 Peat

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 11:03

I thought Q was at the Roar? Or is that just for pit-box allocation or something?



#33 Victor_RO

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 11:08

I thought Q was at the Roar? Or is that just for pit-box allocation or something?

 

Just for pitbox allocation, proper quali for the race is today.



#34 red stick

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 11:52

RACER has a helpful one-stop guide.

 

https://racer.com/20...resource-guide/



#35 Henri Greuter

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:40

Can't help but feeling that that Mid-engined Chevrolet GT car looks good but has a wrong name, a name not covering what was a real one was and what the name stood for anymore



#36 TennisUK

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:52

I was never fond of how the Corvette looked or sounded, but I heard what the new one sounds like this morning and it is sufficiently generic I almost miss the old one. 



#37 Henri Greuter

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 13:48

I was never fond of how the Corvette looked or sounded, but I heard what the new one sounds like this morning and it is sufficiently generic I almost miss the old one.



Think I know what you mean. I never ever cared for any of the post 2K Corvettes for even a single split second, period.
But the name Corvette stood for something that meant something, something recognizeable, like it or not.
Now that's gone.

#38 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 13:52

Yeah, if that was unpainted and you said it was a new NSX/McLaren/Ferrari/Lambo, it'd make sense. If you told me that was a new Porsche I'd take to the streets in a French riot. 



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Posted 23 January 2020 - 14:00

Yeah, if that was unpainted and you said it was a new NSX/McLaren/Ferrari/Lambo, it'd make sense. If you told me that was a new Porsche I'd take to the streets in a French riot.



The car still doesn't appeal very much to me because of the used engine, I have nothing with small & big blocks.
But had this thing been fitted with a hot Northstar version and been given another type name, I think I would prefer it over the Ford GT instantly. But now, at least for me, it is missing a few things for which instead it has a few things too much that I think to be out of place.
We'll see what it will be capable off in competition.

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#40 red stick

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 16:34

Can't help but feeling that that Mid-engined Chevrolet GT car looks good but has a wrong name, a name not covering what was a real one was and what the name stood for anymore

I think people bemoaning whether this car is a "real" 'Vette are unfamiliar with Corvette's long history.  Mid-engined Corvettes have appeared as show cars since the 1960's.  Every rethink for five decades has been accompanied by the inevitable Road & Track or Car and Driver (or both) issue devoted to answering the question, "Is the next generation the long-awaited mid-engined 'Vette?"

 

Now it's here.

 

One man's betrayal is another's delivery on a long-awaited promise.     ;) 

 

I just hope it's fast.  And durable.



#41 Henri Greuter

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 17:39

I think people bemoaning whether this car is a "real" 'Vette are unfamiliar with Corvette's long history.  Mid-engined Corvettes have appeared as show cars since the 1960's.  Every rethink for five decades has been accompanied by the inevitable Road & Track or Car and Driver (or both) issue devoted to answering the question, "Is the next generation the long-awaited mid-engined 'Vette?"

 

Now it's here.

 

One man's betrayal is another's delivery on a long-awaited promise.     ;)

 

I just hope it's fast.  And durable.

I can agree with a lot of your sentiments, don't get me wrong.

But because of a few show cars claiming that mid engined Corvettes are part of the Corvette history, that's stretching it very thin for me.

 

We'll see what happen how the car is welcomed. But I think it will be OK and that the car will be a success for Chevy.

Which is OK with me by the way, even if I don't care much for it at all.



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Posted 23 January 2020 - 17:54

A few?  Corvette's history is incomplete without them.

 

 

c. 1964 CERV II

 

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c. 1969  Astro II

 

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c. 1972-74 Aerovette

 

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c. 1986  Corvette Indy

 

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c. 1990  CERV III

 

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#43 red stick

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 17:55

 ;)



#44 TennisUK

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 18:03

Think I know what you mean. I never ever cared for any of the post 2K Corvettes for even a single split second, period.
But the name Corvette stood for something that meant something, something recognizeable, like it or not.
Now that's gone.

I don't think there's ever been a Corvette I liked - and to me this one is visually still very much a Corvette - which is to say I find it utterly hideous to look at. And it's not even as if we've never seen a DOHC in a Corvette (the Lotus designed ZR1 engine from the 90s comes immediately to mind).

 

I was talking more about the experience of being at Le Mans. Like them or loathe them at least the Corvettes provided a unique soundtrack that did add to the atmosphere and variety of the race. I haven't been in a couple of years, but do the Aston Martins still have their slightly agricultural rumble, too or has that been lost with the new Vantage?



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Posted 23 January 2020 - 18:04

The car still doesn't appeal very much to me because of the used engine, I have nothing with small & big blocks.
But had this thing been fitted with a hot Northstar version and been given another type name, I think I would prefer it over the Ford GT instantly. But now, at least for me, it is missing a few things for which instead it has a few things too much that I think to be out of place.
We'll see what it will be capable off in competition.

This isn't another small block Chevy V8.  The DOHC 32 valve engine in the C8R is more similar to the Northstar and the LT5 that inspired it than anything else in Corvette history.  And now with a flat-plane crank.  Maybe that only adds to the break in history from the C7R to some, but I find it intriguing and I think may grow to love it.  And I love that they didn't go turbocharged like so many modern racing engines



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Posted 23 January 2020 - 18:12

The DOHC 32 valve engine in the C8R is more similar to the Northstar and the LT5 that inspired it than anything else in Corvette history.  And now with a flat-plane crank. 

The Lotus-designed DOHC LT5 was not FPC stock but it was modified to use a FPC in various racing applications.



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Posted 23 January 2020 - 18:12

We Practice 2 Nao:

 

https://scoring.imsa.com/

 

https://www.imsa.com...imsa-radio.html


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#48 FLB

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 18:42

The Christina says the track is greasy. The times are still good because the Michelins are great. She's getting along well with Kat, but they complain more than Calderon and Frey because they have more experience and therefore have more knowledge to understand what's needed.

 

She also took part in the Fan Forum yesterday.



#49 Henri Greuter

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 19:09

This isn't another small block Chevy V8.  The DOHC 32 valve engine in the C8R is more similar to the Northstar and the LT5 that inspired it than anything else in Corvette history.  And now with a flat-plane crank.  Maybe that only adds to the break in history from the C7R to some, but I find it intriguing and I think may grow to love it.  And I love that they didn't go turbocharged like so many modern racing engines

Got to admit, mid-engine is something I don't associate with street Corvettes avaialble to the public, but an engine of less than 5 liter and turbocharged  is also something I don't associate with the name Corvette.

 

Mmmm to remain at the safe side: I remember the first variant, the C1 which had a 3.85 liter straight six, so there is an exception to the rule....



#50 red stick

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 19:32

Got to admit, mid-engine is something I don't associate with street Corvettes avaialble to the public, but an engine of less than 5 liter and turbocharged  is also something I don't associate with the name Corvette.

 

Mmmm to remain at the safe side: I remember the first variant, the C1 which had a 3.85 liter straight six, so there is an exception to the rule....

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