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#1 Viryfan

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 20:29

Team History

 

It is a fusion of two tales.

 

The British tale.

 

Enstone is a legacy from Toleman formula two team

 

Which had fairly good success with Warwick and Henton thanks to BP Support.

 

Then they stepped in F1 in 1981.

 

Only qualified for two races.

 

Their real first crack was 1982. They got noticed for the first time when Warwick fought in the top 3 having half a tank.

 

 

The team made his mark in 1984 with three podiums when a young brasilian  bloke named Senna Da Silva came on board.

 

 

However owners had tendency to have a regular conflicts so when Senna announced his move to Lotus he was benched for 1 race.

 

Then they fell out of grace with Michelin,Goodyear and Pirelli, no one wanted to supply them tyres unless they changed ownership so....

 

Benetton came onboard.

 

 

 

First season and first win as BMW customer with a tall austrian lad....

 

 

 

Then they became FORD factory team with LOLA Beatrice demise.

 

Few wins and podium then and there but things really clicked on 1991.

 

A civil war within the team raged on with a lot of resignations to the dead born Reynard F1 project.

 

Ford got unsatisfied and the summer rose TWR came on board.

 

 

 

And a young german sportscar racer named "Schumacher" arrived.

 

The team moved to Enstone.

 

Success followed 

 

Then the first fusion of the Anglo/French tales happenned for which success followed the next three years.

 

Then, Benetton family got board and sold the team to their french counter parts.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=6PqWuzMtW8M

 

The french tale

 

Things got kicked started when french state oil company Elf order Renault to developed a turbocharged engine for F2 and sportcars back in 1972 by the genius Bernard Dudot.

 

 

 

 

Success followed up in F2 and Sports cars, which gave Renault bigger ideas so they decided to buy Alpine and Gordini.

 

Then they merged the competition service from both entities and called this " Renault Sport".

 

The factory was neither in Paris workshop or in Dieppe but in the outskirts of Paris in Viry Chatillon.

 

The first target was Le Mans and they duly reached the target at the third attempt.

 

 

 

Meanwhile Renault tried to win Le Mans they were working hands on their second project which was F1 with a turbocharged V6 which was a novelty back then.

 

First through the Alpine A500.

 

Alpine employed leaked the project in order to avoid the merger of Gordini and Alpine.

 

Tyrell was also rumoured to be the first team to received the V6 engine (just look at the yellow stripes).

 

But finally in may 1977 it was announced that Renault would take part to F1 world championship from the British Gp onwards.

 

The yellow tea pot was born.

 

Start was difficult in the first twelve months were difficult as Le Mans was the top priority

 

But rays of sunshine were coming.....

 

Jabouille qualified in the Top 3 in Austria and Italy while nearly making it to the podium in Watkins Glen.

 

1979, efforts were on the up and pressure to.

 

But at least first joy arrived in Dijon.

 

 

 

 

Between 1979 and 1981, Renault was a contender for race wins but not for the title due to poor reliability.

 

In 1981 a young fresh faced guy from Saint Amond named Prost, arrived and made dream french f1 fans from the first day.

 

The dream got close with 15 wins but never made it to the finish line.

 

The team declined from 1984 and the chassis closed shop by 1985 due to politics and money.

 

But the team kept on making pretty good turbo engines with 5 wins between 1985 and 1986.

 

While the prospect of Lotus being a top team again was slim and Mclaren deal fell off due to SHELL, Renault decided to pause their involvement in F1 while waiting for a top team.

 

They kept developing engines and when Williams lost Honda, the first british french marriage became reality.

 

From day one it was a contender leading in the first race and winning races in their first season.

 

But it became mighty from summer 1991 onwards with Newey design and relentless Renault engine power

 

 

 

The partnership gathered 9 titles between 1992 and 1997 plus the ones with Benetton.

 

In june 1996, Renault decided it had enough of success and to take a step back.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=MqZKJ1JCUvg

 

 

But they came back and took Enstone over.

 

 

The first Renault F1 team era 2000-2010

 

 

Renault decided to get back in F1 with an innovative wide angle engine, lower power but better aero.

 

Start was tough battling with Minardi but progress went real quick over three years.

 

By the end of 2003, Viry was at a turning point:

 

- Carry with an innovative engine

- Or switch to a known quantity design engine

 

Bernardo Dudot who came back choosed the second option to the great despair of Jean Jacques His.

 

That choice paid off in 2005 thanks to smart aero computer simulation from the late Dino Toso (Rest in peace man, you changed the face of F1 simulation), Michelin tyres and the outstanding Fernando Alonso.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=zM6NK-idCIY

 

In 2006, sucess carried on with V8.

 

 

 

 

2007 marked a decline in the team with the departure of Japan Tobacco, Alonso and Michelin.

 

2008 was a false back to form wih a kiss of death from crash gate.

 

2011-2015: each other in its own way

 

Between 2010 and 2013, Viry won eight titles with Red Bull, won races with Enstone and Grove.

 

Enstone had their fair share of success too with Kubica,Raikkonnen, Grosjean and Petrov in that period.

 

 

But everything fell off from 2014 onwards for both as Renault came unprepared to the V6 Hybrid era as they laid off too many people at Viry since 2007 while Enstone was fighting for its survival.

 

Both part had limited but enjoyable success.

 

2016-Now: the slow climb towards success

 

In december 2015 it was that Renault would buy back Enstone, little knew how hard to it would be to comeback.

 

The 2016 year was dismal even though the 2016 PU made a decent step with two wins for Red Bull it was way off Mercedes grunt and chassis was very poor.

 

In 2017 Hulkenberg came onboard improving the quality of driver, the chassis made a step but plateaued while the power unit was a let down unable to update the MGU K, the team reached its target of P6 in WCC.

 

In 2018 the team reached its target of P4 in WCC, but the car performance stagnated and deceived the management, Engine was still not up there despite 4 wins with Red Bull. Renault went big and hired Ricciardo for 2019.

 

2019 was a let down for the chassis and operationally which was paid with a P5 in WCC but there is light at the end of tunnel with the engine performance with a P4 and P5 at Monza, by far their results since 2016.

 

For 2020, wholesale change at Enstone with the departure of two key figure, and the arrival of Fry,De Beer plus Ocon on the driver roster.

 

 

 

The car

 

https://twitter.com/...316161284145154

 

 

RS20: new aerodynamics on the front expected in order to control the airflow for the bargeboards and help to settle the rear end of the car on long fast corners.

 

E-tech engine 2020: evolution of the 2019 spec C engine which plenty of satisfaction

 

 

 

 

The Management 

 

Jerome Stoll is still the chairman.

 

Cyril Abiteboule the CEO.

 

Alain Prost non executive director

 

Budkowski the executive manager.

 

Nick Fry technical director at Enstone.

 

Remy Taffin engine technical director

 

 

The Drivers

 

Ricciardo a multiple grand prix winner and popular face out there, fierce overtaker mighty on street tracks.

 

Ocon is a young french charger aged 23, ended up P8 in his first full F1 season, great qualifyer and known for his consistancy as he is the record holder of race finishes at the start of his career.

 

https://twitter.com/...6351233/photo/1

 

The livery of the car

 

Expected to be a throwback from 1979

 

New big sponsors from Asia or Middle East are expected to come  on board.

 

 

Ricciardo a multiple grand prix winner and popular face out there, fierce overtaker mighty on street tracks.


Edited by Viryfan, 02 February 2020 - 20:35.


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#2 Alburaq

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:12

The evolution of the RSF1 cars since Renault's return in 2016
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As already said before, Renault's 2019 results are very logical and well deserved. Enstone was extremely conservative and lazy last year during the winter and during the season.
They took the exact same decision/gamble as Mclaren in 2017. They knew in 2018 that their next PU was going to be a big improvement and they kept the same chassis/concept for the chassis.
But why did Renault follow that route? to spare resources for the future? probably. But their 2019 car probably looked way faster in the wind tunnel and the minor updates they brought probably worked well at the factory. So they probably had correlation issues... Hopefully the latter are "sorted" and better understood* now thanks to the factory new updates and reorganization. 
*I dont think they'll completely disappear and that the understanding will be 100%. For that you need the resources that the big three teams have...
 
Some of the most conservative parts in 2019:
-The FW endplates
-the nose
The "cape", it was very basic/simple and barely evolved in 2019.
-the under-nose turning vanes. Enstone do not change them alot between the seasons and they evolve even less during the seasons
-the raised top front wishbones: Renault adopted them in 2019 bet they decided to keep the same steering arms, unlike most of the other teams who move them to put them inline with one of the wishbones.
-no boomerangs on the BBs. The Renault is the only boomerangs less car
-the sidepods: they are fake ans superficial copies of the "Ferrari style" raised sidepods. 
etc
Will Ensone be more agressive in 2020 with a different technical director as Chester? Obviously aggressiveness do not equate success. Effectiveness is key... 

Edited by Alburaq, 07 February 2020 - 09:12.


#3 dn12005

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 14:30

Good info @ViryFan and @Grider!

 

I appreciate the brief history and  current technical direction, as a fairly newbie to the sport and a huge Renault-Nissan Alliance supporter.


Edited by dn12005, 07 February 2020 - 15:38.


#4 Viryfan

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 19:27

Apparently RS20 shakedown at Silverstone on february the 17th.

 

Confirmed by Ocon on french tv but not the track.


Edited by Viryfan, 07 February 2020 - 19:36.


#5 Amz964

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 19:39

Let's hope for a good one this year boys. Not expecting to fight for podiums overall on merit or anything but hopefully close in on the top 3 and sneak the odd lucky podium here and there. P4 in the WCC is a must this year.

Hopefully the sponsorship from Asia or middle East goes through as we are a little thin on sponsors.

Edited by Amz964, 07 February 2020 - 19:40.


#6 Francesc

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 19:56


 

The Management 

 


Nick Fry technical director at Enstone.

 

 

 

:p

 

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#7 Marklar

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 14:16

welp

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Edited by Marklar, 10 February 2020 - 14:20.


#8 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 14:25

welp

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Guess that's understandable. They'd be a laughing stock if their live stream was as reliable as the car last year...



#9 Marklar

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 14:53

Well, that explains then a car presentation without a car then  :p



#10 Viryfan

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 15:05

So the real livery will be unveiled at the first race.

Unless there is a big sponsor coming, i don't see the point.

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 15:08

So the real livery will be unveiled at the first race.

Unless there is a big sponsor coming, i don't see the point.


I think that’s why they are doing it...

#12 taran

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 15:51

Let's hope it has more yellow.



#13 Viryfan

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 19:21

According to my source, Vitality Esport team was not planned to be in the season opener.....

 

Why? Why?



#14 Myrvold

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 20:53

The evolution of the RSF1 cars since Renault's return in 2016

 

Less and less McLaren for each year!



#15 Alburaq

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 07:43

It's weird that they won't even show an old repainted car, as they do every year since 2010 (bar 2010, 2011 and 2017)... this must be sponsorcontactsnegociation-related... 

In 2016 they used a 2015 show car with the black testing livery for the first launch... 



#16 pryanjack

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 10:31

Perhaps its a super radical design and they want the competition to see as little as possible for as long as possible ................................... (half sarcasm, half false hope)



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 11:46

Perhaps its a super radical design and they want the competition to see as little as possible for as long as possible ................................... (half sarcasm, half false hope)

Where is my Ray Liotta gif.  :rotfl:  Glad someone has sense of humor in this dark days of this team. So much money thrown into bottomless pit. 



#18 Flasheart

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 07:57

C’mon Neno, we need you chucking all the positive energy possible for now mate. At least till the third race. Maybe if we all band together. Power of positive thinking and all that.....

#19 eREr

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:10

I don't expect anything big in this year, it will be similar one to last year: sometimes best of the rest, sometimes not. But yeah, it would be good to take back P4 in WCC. Hope the new tech team will provide (much) better car to the drivers.

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#20 Marklar

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 13:20

cant imagine a bigger punsiment than listening to an one hour Cyril power point presentation

https://twitter.com/...580110951329792



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Posted 12 February 2020 - 13:24

cant imagine a bigger punsiment than listening to an one hour Cyril power point presentation

https://twitter.com/...580110951329792

The same presentation, but then in French? (or is it in French?)



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Posted 12 February 2020 - 13:51

cant imagine a bigger punsiment than listening to an one hour Cyril power point presentation

https://twitter.com/...580110951329792


That graph showing Renault on top. He’s desperately clinging on to his job trying to impress the higher ups with a flashy Powerpoint, isn’t he?

#23 BCM

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:03

I think it's a graph of how many seconds they are behind everyone :rotfl:



#24 Rinehart

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:05

Is it a graph to show the amount of yellow black paint on each teams car?


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#25 goldenboy

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:05

That graph showing Renault on top. He’s desperately clinging on to his job trying to impress the higher ups with a flashy Powerpoint, isn’t he?

I don't really like or dislike the guy, but sheesh, what, you expect him to not try and show the best light possible?

I think the Cyril bashing has gone to a level that's become a bit uncalled for. The dude's obviously trying to do the best he can with the budget he's been given from up top.

#26 vee10

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:08

I'm a Renault fan always have been from the engine only supply days, but this presentation looks like a team who can't be arsed. 2020 for most teams other than the established top 3 seems like a waste of time and money but it does not look good for Renault staying in F1 beyond next year.



#27 SagemX

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:08

Mostly black?

 

https://twitter.com/...594652838170624



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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:10

Mostly black?

https://twitter.com/...594652838170624


Testing livery

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:12

I don't really like or dislike the guy, but sheesh, what, you expect him to not try and show the best light possible?

I think the Cyril bashing has gone to a level that's become a bit uncalled for. The dude's obviously trying to do the best he can with the budget he's been given from up top.

The guy is out of his depth. There's no shame in admitting you're not the right man for the job. Just need to be self aware enough to understand that. He's clearly not.

 

They're not keen on showing the bargeboard area or the front of the car are they?


Edited by BCM, 12 February 2020 - 14:12.


#30 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:19

Testing livery

I hope not. Looks brilliant



#31 Rinehart

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:30

I hope not. Looks brilliant

Skimming twitter I thought how funny it is that everyone complains about every livery not being imaginative enough... then as soon as a plain black one is released (I think most are ignorant to the fact it's not THE livery) its roundly declared as the best livery ever.  :stoned:



#32 pryanjack

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:51

looks fast



#33 pryanjack

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:52

is it me or is there some kind of weird channel running from the base of the halo and disappearing into the engine cover just before the final E in EDGE?



#34 thegobetween

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:59

Teasing with a few abstract images feels a little pompous from a mid field team? Just play the game Ren and get on with it.



#35 Paco

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:59

Finally someone with a real update and cool factor. Man I hope it’s not just a test one but either way thumbs up.

#36 Clrnc

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:59

Did I really wait 2 hours for them to just show a teaser shot? Hope they crash and burn this year again. 



#37 pryanjack

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:16

team is still waiting the rest of the parts they bought off Amazon to arrive before they can show the rest of the car ....



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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:23

is it me or is there some kind of weird channel running from the base of the halo and disappearing into the engine cover just before the final E in EDGE?

 

The livery seems to be a mix of matte and gloss paint. I think what you're seeing is just a section of glossy paint.



#39 pryanjack

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:33

The livery seems to be a mix of matte and gloss paint. I think what you're seeing is just a section of glossy paint.

 

yep, it is ... thx



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#40 SenorSjon

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:16

team is still waiting the rest of the parts they bought off Amazon to arrive before they can show the rest of the car ....

 

I bet the parts are still waiting to be shipped from AliExpress due to the Coronovirus. ;)



#41 danstheman

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:26

Did I really wait 2 hours for them to just show a teaser shot? Hope they crash and burn this year again. 

 

To be fair they did announce this beforehand



#42 Alburaq

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 07:13

Best presentation ever  :clap:

 

Okay, let's hope Ocons' description of the car is the most accurate one https://fr.motorspor...e-look/4684185/ and that Abiteboul has decided this time (and has told to his employees*) to keep a low profile in the medias  :p

*but forgot to tell Ocon.

 

The temporary livery seems to replace the 2019 glossy black with matte black and the 2019 yellow with glossy black indeed... and that should look sweet.
It seems the engine cover "bulge" that was round the Castrol logo that every bodywork spec (low temp/high temp) of the RS.19 had, has been removed. Yes I'm analyzing the "glimpses"

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#43 Lemojn

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 11:13

 

Renault's F1 non-executive director Alain Prost said the team needed to accept that its 2020 form alone would not be enough to convince Ricciardo to stay, which is why it had to sell him its vision for what is possible next year. "For sure this year, we have to say the truth," said Prost, speaking at the Renault season launch in Paris. "We don't have a high expectation about this year, so it's a shame for Daniel, the second year with not a lot that is going to be better.

 

https://www.motorspo...-faith/4684436/

 

 

Oh boy this is going to be a fun year, isn't it.  :rotfl:



#44 krapmeister

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 11:17

Pack it up lads, see you in 2021...



#45 vee10

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 11:41

2020 seems pretty pointless for most teams other than the top three, why you would spend a fortune on something that won't win anyway to then throw it in the bin the following season, I just hope the midfield is tight and we can be in amongst it but if the fundamental downforce and suspension issues have not been addressed, wake me up in 2021.

 

(that's if the Renault board can be arsed with it)



#46 pitlanepalpatine

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 12:32

Maybe I'm paranoid but it kinda sounds like they're already planning to "unfortunately" loose Ricciardo, to make a bid for Nando in 2021. 

 

Also, newsflash Cyril, if your employees are getting your targets from the press maybe it's because you're not communicating effectively internally which would just be another notch in the list of failures. When will Renault realise that the guy practicing a perpetual Bart Simpson routine (It wasn't me) is leading them nowhere?



#47 goldenboy

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 12:39

Maybe I'm paranoid but it kinda sounds like they're already planning to "unfortunately" loose Ricciardo, to make a bid for Nando in 2021.

Also, newsflash Cyril, if your employees are getting your targets from the press maybe it's because you're not communicating effectively internally which would just be another notch in the list of failures. When will Renault realise that the guy practicing a perpetual Bart Simpson routine (It wasn't me) is leading them nowhere?

You're definitely paranoid.

#48 Ali623

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 12:43

Maybe I'm paranoid but it kinda sounds like they're already planning to "unfortunately" loose Ricciardo, to make a bid for Nando in 2021. 

 

Also, newsflash Cyril, if your employees are getting your targets from the press maybe it's because you're not communicating effectively internally which would just be another notch in the list of failures. When will Renault realise that the guy practicing a perpetual Bart Simpson routine (It wasn't me) is leading them nowhere?

 

Ricciardo has nowhere to got though, he's stuck with them whether he likes it or not 



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Posted 13 February 2020 - 13:03

2020 seems pretty pointless for most teams other than the top three, why you would spend a fortune on something that won't win anyway to then throw it in the bin the following season, I just hope the midfield is tight and we can be in amongst it but if the fundamental downforce and suspension issues have not been addressed, wake me up in 2021.

 

(that's if the Renault board can be arsed with it)

 

While I get your point, this basically applies to every season. Every year the teams design and build a new car and then "throw it in the bin" at the end of the year. Maybe the basic design philosophy is carried over but very few actual parts.

 

Doesn't mean they don't try their hardest each and every year.

 

This year, teams will have to balance work on the 2020 car vs. the 2021 car more than usual because the 2021 car needs a lot more work than it would have if the regulations had stayed the same. That is the main difference compared to previous years and even then we had some major rule changes in the past few years and I don't remember people suggesting teams stop developing their cars because next year's model would be wider, narrower, more wingy or less wingy, etc.

 

If a car is flawed, it is important to identify and rectify the problem, just to know that you can. Otherwise, the next car might have a similar flaw. I wouldn't be surprised if Williams gave up on the 2018 car early due to insufficient funds instead of solving it and then had the same problems with the 2019 car. 



#50 Marklar

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 13:12

Ricciardo has nowhere to got though, he's stuck with them whether he likes it or not

Return to Red Bull is always possible, but then he is the #2 and will earn way less.

Ferrari is possible as well I guess, depending on how the season goes.

Ricciardo definitely has options, whether they are better for his needs (financially, status, etc.) is a different question.

Personally I think if you go to Renault you should at least stay for 2021 in case a shake-up happens.

Edited by Marklar, 13 February 2020 - 13:13.