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#1 Clrnc

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 13:59

The new HAAS car returns to the familiar livery but I kind of like how it looks from the front. Improved. Especially the nose and front wing I really like it

https://twitter.com/...1721822208?s=19

Edited by midgrid, 06 February 2020 - 18:59.
Corrected link to tweet


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#2 sgtkate

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:04

The new HAAS car returns to the familiar livery but I kind of like how it looks from the front. Improved. Especially the nose and front wing I really like it

Has it been revealed and we all missed it or is this what you are wishing for?



#3 Clrnc

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:05

Has it been revealed and we all missed it or is this what you are wishing for?

Revealed. Link above. 



#4 Jvr

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:05

Yes, it's been revealed.

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Edited by Jvr, 06 February 2020 - 14:06.


#5 sgtkate

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:06

Yes.

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Ooooooh! Shiny. I rather like it. That's a very early launch isn't it? Maybe keen to ditch Rich Energy? :drunk:



#6 TomNokoe

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:07

Haas livery is really nice. I've often thought that the shape and dimensions of today's cars aren't really conducive to nice liveries.

Whenever somebody remasters a 1990s livery on modern chassis, it always looks crap.

#7 GoldenColt

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:07

Nice livery, best one they've had so far since entering F1.



#8 Clrnc

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:09

Nice livery, best one they've had so far since entering F1.

Agreed. Really a fantastic looking car even with a familiar color scheme. Shows that if you put in the effort you can improve designs year in year out even in iconic colors. 

The black part on the front wing have stripes on it. Nice



#9 TomNokoe

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:14

The red chevron on the nose looks like something Philip Morris would approve of!

#10 SparkPlug86

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:17

Looks nice.

Those stripes on the front wing may prove interesting when you’ve got flow vis paint on the wing and trying to understand it though?

Good to see a decent colour scheme on the car. Now hopefully Williams will ditch their god awful effort from last year!!!

#11 SenorSjon

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:30



Yes, it's been revealed.

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Funny how this is the only pic with red Pirelli's. Other shots are white.

 

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Edited by SenorSjon, 06 February 2020 - 14:38.


#12 Jvr

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:32

From that front view pic it looks like Haas has changed their front wing concept into last year's Ferrari/Alfa style i.e. the highest profile is not at the ends.



#13 SenorSjon

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:33

Much better livery than their old drab ones.



#14 Jvr

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:36

AMuS pictures also would indicate it has much more rake than last year.



#15 Anja

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:36

It's... fine. I don't get the praise, it's really close to the "boring" 2016 and 2018 liveries. 



#16 Goron3

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:37

From that front view pic it looks like Haas has changed their front wing concept into last year's Ferrari/Alfa style i.e. the highest profile is not at the ends.

Good spot. I think Red Bull trialled something similar at Interlagos last year too. I think we'll see a few teams go down that route.



#17 TecnoRacing

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:49

Not a bad livery - a bit of a generic 'F2' quality (like ART 2019) - but certainly clean and non-offensive. HAAS text looks nicer without the key-lines found on the older grey liveries :up:



#18 f1rules

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:51

beautiful looking car i have to say, sauber nose by the looks, ferrari mclaren style fw, fins along the floor edge


Edited by f1rules, 06 February 2020 - 14:52.


#19 noikeee

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:54

I like the livery a lot, like someone said reminds me of a few ART liveries in GP2/F2 (ex the one in the Lewis Hamilton year).



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#20 BuddyHolly

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 14:58

I'm on the fence.  I've seen much worse, but then I've seen much better also.


Edited by BuddyHolly, 06 February 2020 - 14:58.


#21 Imateria

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 15:11

I really like it, not the boring shades of grey they had before, the white, black and red highlights work well together.



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Posted 06 February 2020 - 15:18

It's... fine. I don't get the praise, it's really close to the "boring" 2016 and 2018 liveries. 

 

Well, it isn't a fax machine or copier like the dull grey ones they had before.



#23 messy

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 15:20

Really like that livery. Good start. 



#24 Pimpwerx

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 15:21

Good idea to get this into the open first. That livery won't stand up well compared to the big teams, I think. I expect Red Bull to once again win the pre-season livery award, only to bore us all to tears with a return to their normal livery for the regular season.



#25 statman

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 15:30

more angles:

 

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#26 Alexis*27

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 15:38

Best HAAS livery so far.

 

Grey never works - much better with the black.



#27 Ali623

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 15:48

I like it, clean, professional - hopefully a sign of things to come this season...



#28 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 16:15

Wow, pleasantly surprised that we get to see a 2020 car/livery so soon in February, and it’s a good one too. Well done Haas.

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 16:29

Safe boring and uninspired.. yeah i said. I can’t believe how well received it has been on here. Easily may end up being the worst of the entire grid. Yes yes it’s soley a branding exercise but wow, it’s sooooo dull. Maybe the car will end up just as bad and allow Williams to move up the grid a bit Hope so, as I don’t want to be seeing it much on TV.

Edited by Paco, 06 February 2020 - 16:30.


#30 BRG

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 16:41

Safe boring and uninspired.. yeah i said. 

It's OK but what is the obsession with black, white and red liveries?  Half the race cars of the world seem to be in those limited colours.  Obviously modern day graphic designers are all colour blind.  What's wrong with blue, green, yellow, mauve, pink, teal, biege, brown..........etc?

 

What Haas need is a title sponsor with a striking colour scheme.  Maybe an energy drink company or something like that. 



#31 SonGoku

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 16:44

I am more concerned about the lack of sponsors on that car.

#32 Paco

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 16:54

I am more concerned about the lack of sponsors on that car.


Great point as well. Steiner has already said I believe they were one of the smallest budgets so add in that fact you pointed out, yeah going to be hard to develop as the season goes on, they could be leaped a spot or 2 if they can’t develop as the season goes on irregardless of how they come out in the 1st three races.

#33 Paco

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 16:57

It's OK but what is the obsession with black, white and red liveries? Half the race cars of the world seem to be in those limited colours. Obviously modern day graphic designers are all colour blind. What's wrong with blue, green, yellow, mauve, pink, teal, biege, brown..........etc?

What Haas need is a title sponsor with a striking colour scheme. Maybe an energy drink company or something like that.


Haas would plaster whatever colour like FI did if a sponsor was different. This is just Haas staleness. I get year1 conservatism as not to overdo your entry but they are established already and this is just plain dull like the squad. They’re lucky to have a personalality like Steiner to breath life into that team.

#34 BobbyRicky

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:06

Where is Rich Energy?



#35 Jovanotti

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:23

Ok livery, but I think it will once again look boring on track.

#36 theflyingwheel

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:26

I find this livery very pleasant, the shiny candy colors look very nice, maybe its just a personal taste but i like even the color scheme despite being the usual corporate grey/red pallet.

#37 MikeV1987

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:27

A bit of a boring livery but I’m sure it will grow on me.

#38 Nathan

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:32

I am more concerned about the lack of sponsors on that car.

 

This was the first thing I noticed as well.  I understand Peak increased it's spending, but I doubt it was by too much.

 

Guys who render cars (Sean Bull etc.) should take note how to do clean and proper sponsorship liveries.



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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:34

I do like the fact that Haas have subtly changed their livery every season (Rich Energy aside) - it makes it easy to distinguish one season's car from another, and each livery feels somewhat fresh, even though they are all similar.  Compare with, say, Toyota's near-identical livery year-on-year.



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#40 Burai

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:34

Haas would plaster whatever colour like FI did if a sponsor was different. This is just Haas staleness. I get year1 conservatism as not to overdo your entry but they are established already and this is just plain dull like the squad. They’re lucky to have a personalality like Steiner to breath life into that team.

 

Red, black and white are literally Haas' corporate colours. It's not like anyone accuses Ferrari of staleness in spite of painting their cars red for 70 years in a row.



#41 jjcale

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:39

Needs more sponsors .... 



#42 SuperSwede

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:39

It´s kind of Indy-esque which I find suitable for an US based team and by far their best looking livery since they entered F1 IMO.  :smoking:


Edited by SuperSwede, 06 February 2020 - 17:41.


#43 PayasYouRace

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:44

It’s a nice bold variation on their corporate livery. Yeah it would be nice to see another title sponsor, or should I say, a real title sponsor.

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:55

(With the usual caveat that this is a pre-launch car and they may have left pieces out for now).  The aero pieces ahead of the sidepods appear new and unique to me.  

 

And they look like a rib cage!  It reminds me of a Mad Max car decorated with bones, or Jeremy Clarkson's bone car

 

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#45 LightningMcQueen

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 17:57

Where is Rich Energy?


Lol

#46 Paco

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 18:05

Red, black and white are literally Haas' corporate colours. It's not like anyone accuses Ferrari of staleness in spite of painting their cars red for 70 years in a row.


It’s the not colours chosen, it’s the blandness of their execution. And people do freak about Ferrari changing it up.. they don’t even use the proper RED Ferrari which irks many for a while now and their was an acceptance of the matte if it was truly for a performance edge. Ferrari seem to want to change it up, but fans are more reluctant. I’d love to see a Dino Yellow Ferrari for a change, especially at their home race or as test colour.. that said, their livery at least is modern and not super safe typically. Mercedes would be nice for a reinterpretation of their current approach but maybe they’ll hold out until 2021. Back onto Haas..

Edited by Paco, 06 February 2020 - 18:08.


#47 vlado

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 18:06

Looks nothing like the SF90.. 

 

 

:stoned:



#48 boomn

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 18:08

More photos available at AMUS from different angles and highlighting the details



#49 Izzyeviel

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 18:13

Looks like an old Penske. i approve.



#50 MortenF1

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Posted 06 February 2020 - 18:39

Looks nothing like the SF90..


:stoned:

But seriously, does it resemble the SF90 in any way? I’m not the F1 nerd I used to be so I no longer have a trained eye for such details.