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2020 Alfa Romeo C39 (Technical thread)


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#1 Anja

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 09:05

Start-up done. Might as well start the thread, someone has to...

 

https://twitter.com/...739161459740672



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#2 Yoshi

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 09:06

Can't wait for the new car and also what Livery it will have - maybe again test livery like last year?  :clap:



#3 Sterzo

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 17:53

Dark Alfa red all over with a cloverleaf please, to get us feeling it's an Alfa Romeo rather than half a Sauber.



#4 Marklar

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 10:49

Livery teaser

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#5 TomNokoe

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 11:29

Pls be real livery



#6 CrashPad

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 11:51

Remember reading somewhere that the new car will be a completely new concept instead of an evolution of the C38. Very interesting considering how pretty much everyone else is going for the latter approach.

 

Hopefully that is the actual livery, looks mean.



#7 Marklar

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:12

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#8 CrashPad

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:13

Have to say it looks kinda....fat  :well:

And not that much different to C38. 

Oh well  :p



#9 Okyo

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:15

Shouldn't expect good cars from the midfield. Eveyone's saving for the 2021 dev race.

Like the testing livery though. 



#10 Marklar

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:22

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#11 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:23

Such a cool livery. I wish they'd actually keep these.



#12 Yoshi

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:24

Such a cool livery. I wish they'd actually keep these.

 

Agree  :up:



#13 Anja

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:26

I don't get the praise for this livery. It's an ugly shade of grey with an ugly texture, bleh. 



#14 Sunnny

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:32

I don't get the praise for this livery. It's an ugly shade of grey with an ugly texture, bleh. 

 

The team has ALWAYS had ugly liverys so this imo is a step up



#15 Marklar

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 09:44

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the nose :V
 


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#16 RSRally

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 10:00

Surprising amount of Orlen branding considering Kubica is just a test driver.

#17 JRodrigues

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 10:02

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#18 Anja

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 10:03

Surprising amount of Orlen branding considering Kubica is just a test driver.

 

They are a title sponsor. Not just because of Kubica as they want to expand their international presence. 



#19 Amz964

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 10:08

Great looking livery in my opinion think it looks great, shame the real livery is most likely gonna be the same as last years which would be a shame as it is quite a boring livery, with the Alfa Romeo branding would expect a better one but this testing livery is lovely.

In terms of the car although the livery is probably hiding it quite well, it dosent look to much different to last year and in comparison to the cars already launched doesn't look as tightly packaged and looks a bit fat in comparison.

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#20 JRodrigues

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 10:35

Great looking livery in my opinion think it looks great, shame the real livery is most likely gonna be the same as last years which would be a shame as it is quite a boring livery, with the Alfa Romeo branding would expect a better one but this testing livery is lovely.

In terms of the car although the livery is probably hiding it quite well, it dosent look to much different to last year and in comparison to the cars already launched doesn't look as tightly packaged and looks a bit fat in comparison.

 

Well.. Kimi's overall is all black. Maybe they will change livery as well.



#21 Perfection

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 10:39

Nothing interesting is to my uneducated eyes. Probably a proper midfield team again..well it would be unfair to expect more. I didn't like the livery. I am happy it only test special.



#22 Starish

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 11:27

Version 2.0 of last years car really, just the airbox has changed to Ferrari style and a slightly tighter engine cover. Hopefully Kimi stays for 2021, cant expect much with this car. 



#23 TheFish

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 11:47

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Reminds me of McLaren one year. One of the anonymous years, can’t remember which one. JB was driving.

#24 Jovanotti

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 11:50

FW towards the end plates is really extreme compared to the other launch cars we've seen so far.

Edited by Jovanotti, 14 February 2020 - 11:50.


#25 Starish

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 11:52

Reminds me of McLaren one year. One of the anonymous years, can’t remember which one. JB was driving.


2016 with the black and red.

#26 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 12:24

Exactly, it looks like a McLaren. Not a very inspiring design, really.



#27 Seanspeed

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 12:44

FW towards the end plates is really extreme compared to the other launch cars we've seen so far.

Seriously is.  People saw the Ferrari FW last year and wondered how it could possibly create enough downforce, but this is taking it to a whole new level. 



#28 MaGiK

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 14:15

That rear looks thick :-P

#29 SCUDmissile

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 15:06

For me, the best-looking car so far.



#30 Vesuvius

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 15:21

Hard to see the differenses due to test livery, but looks ok, not radically different but lets see it with actual livery next week.

#31 Clrnc

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 17:19

Looks the most underdeveloped car so far. Or maybe HAAS



#32 BiggestBuddyLazierFan

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 18:02

I don't get the praise for this livery. It's an ugly shade of grey with an ugly texture, bleh.


It has a heart on the engine cover! How can it be ugly!?

#33 Starish

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 19:36

https://twitter.com/...401229505662979

 

2019 vs 2020



#34 Yoshi

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:25

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#35 JRodrigues

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:31

Meh. At least the red is 'redder'.


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#36 Yoshi

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:36

That nose looks like Darth Vader somehow  :lol:  - maybe we will get a better shot later  


Edited by Yoshi, 19 February 2020 - 21:00.


#37 Zilbert

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:42

We need comparative pictures with c 38, c'mon people get on it!   :p On first look, it looks different enough, air intake, nose, front wing...



#38 TomNokoe

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:50

It might just be the morning sun, but I do like the livery tweak.

#39 Clrnc

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:53

Sidepods look one of the most undeveloped in the entire grid.



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#40 Perfection

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:59

looks like a backmarker car 



#41 Jovanotti

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 08:03

Sidepods look one of the most undeveloped in the entire grid.

Does it really matter though? We can judge the size of the sidepods and complexity of bargeboards, but realistically in the end the biggest question will again be whether the car can work the tyres right or not.

 



#42 Yoshi

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 08:35

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Thanks to @NicolasF1i



#43 Balnazzard

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 08:57

Does it really matter though? We can judge the size of the sidepods and complexity of bargeboards, but realistically in the end the biggest question will again be whether the car can work the tyres right or not.

 

Exactly. Hopefully overall this year they have a car that can work the tyres better in different conditions and compounds as well as otherwise performs better around different tracks.

Also last year they dropped out of development somewhat, hopefully this season they can stay more competitive in the midfield to the end of the season.



#44 Vesuvius

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 10:01

Sidepods look one of the most undeveloped in the entire grid.


"What matters most is what is happening under the hood, what eyes can't see" Adrian Newey

#45 Vesuvius

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 10:02

Does it really matter though? We can judge the size of the sidepods and complexity of bargeboards, but realistically in the end the biggest question will again be whether the car can work the tyres right or not.


Indeed, biggest performance gains can be achieved with tyre understanding.

#46 PayasYouRace

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 20:16

Red stripes on the nose look a lot better to me than the dark blue.



#47 anyeis

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 22:18

How are they supposed to compete with these sisters teams with copies of last years top cars and tech? Well they dont



#48 Paco

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 00:58

Wow that side by side is impressive. That’s a huge update, cleaner and way more detailed everywhere. The floor concept seems completely reworked. Williams may have a hard catching them up. Wonder if then can leap McLaren to 5-6.

#49 Jovanotti

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 15:16

So what's the general impression guys? I couldn't really follow the action so far, but from what I've seen I think Alfa will have a hard time to better last year's WCC result...

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#50 johnnyw

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 15:53

I hope this we seen so far isnt the true pace of the car, will be horrible season ahead if that is the case. Not even glimpse of speed so far.