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[Nobody]

Ragazzi, a message from McLaren

 

https://youtu.be/kVJ2ROZdzSY

 

[Okyo]

Ragazzi, a message from McLaren

 

https://youtu.be/kVJ2ROZdzSY

 

Pleasant and classy. 

Can't speak for all of the tifosi and Ferrari fans out there, but we're welcoming him with open arms. 

[ARTGP]

Which one of you is cutting onions    

Edited by ARTGP, 16 December 2020 - 09:06.

[Astandahl]

Ragazzi, a message from McLaren

 

https://youtu.be/kVJ2ROZdzSY

 

Very nice and well done.

[Astandahl]

 

For the 2021 thread

[ARTGP]

Forgive me for being skeptical, is that photoshopped or real?

Edited by ARTGP, 19 December 2020 - 01:15.

[Marklar]

its real

[ARTGP]

its real

 

Thank you, I think I was just caught off guard with how quickly things have moved.

[Anja]

Those first pics after team changes are always so weird. But Carlos looks good in red 

[FLB]

Well, at least something went right for the Scuderia this year:

 

RM Sotheby’s Posts Sales of $2M at Ferrari GP Online Sale (vintagemotorsport.com)

 

Results: Once in a Millennium | RM Online Only (rmsothebys.com)

[BRG]

Those first pics after team changes are always so weird. But Carlos looks good in red 

Is that Harry Potter in the middle?  It can't be a Ferrari person as he isn't wearing any team apparel.  Or is that a hint that he is on the way out??

 

Well, at least something went right for the Scuderia this year:

 

RM Sotheby’s Posts Sales of $2M at Ferrari GP Online Sale (vintagemotorsport.com)

 

Results: Once in a Millennium | RM Online Only (rmsothebys.com)

Flogging off the family jewels?  When it is other teams doing this, there is consternation and talk of financial meltdown etc etc.  but when Ferrari do it, it is seen as positive?

[Astandahl]

Well, at least something went right for the Scuderia this year:

 

RM Sotheby’s Posts Sales of $2M at Ferrari GP Online Sale (vintagemotorsport.com)

 

Results: Once in a Millennium | RM Online Only (rmsothebys.com)

2 M for a showcase replica

[FLB]

2 M for a showcase replica

Er...

 

 

That's 2 M for a showcase replica of the worst Ferrari since the 312T5...

Edited by FLB, 19 December 2020 - 19:18.

[Button4life]

Those first pics after team changes are always so weird. But Carlos looks good in red

Tbf Carlos looks good in everything

[Anja]

Is that Harry Potter in the middle?  It can't be a Ferrari person as he isn't wearing any team apparel.  Or is that a hint that he is on the way out??

 

Ferrari could sure use some magic right about now... 

Edited by Anja, 20 December 2020 - 11:57.

[TheAviator]

https://twitter.com/...8777020417?s=19

Did you always drive the same car as Charles in 2020?

Vettel: "Theoretically, of course, we drive two different cars, but somewhere also the same. Let's put it this way: I assume that we had the same material."

Vettel: "I think so because I trust the guys in the garage. And I don't want to pin anything bad to anyone."

#BLICK

Edited by TheAviator, 20 December 2020 - 12:31.

[Massa]

Yeah, he didn't have the same car in 2014 too. And somehow Ferrari forgot to slow down his car in Hungary and Turkey.

[as65p]

Yeah, he didn't have the same car in 2014 too. And somehow Ferrari forgot to slow down his car in Hungary and Turkey.

Very likely, the journo pushed him in that direction. Presuming the quotes are even true to the word and correctly translated.

 

OTOH it must be very hard for a competitive guy to resist the temptation of attributing an underperformance at least partly to circumstances out of his control.

[ARTGP]

Yeah, he didn't have the same car in 2014 too. And somehow Ferrari forgot to slow down his car in Hungary and Turkey.

 

Think you are reading too much into. The question was stupid. Vettel is not a mechanic or engineer and therefor he is not the right person to ask. He's not in any position to say the cars were the same. He has not built the cars or driven Charles Chassis. As he pointed out, he "assumes" they are.

 

and they probably are the same car. But we (the journalist) are asking the wrong people, looking for a juicy headline. 

Edited by ARTGP, 20 December 2020 - 16:55.

[masa90]

I am so happy to see new blood in Ferrari. It just felt like "complete" with Vettel and Ferrari. No championship, but still a good overall. Maybe the pressure got to him? But still. better than Kimi every year. Ok, he was not at his prime, but I am not sure if Seb was either. And lets remember Kimi had pretty good 16 and 18. Otherwise Seb had him quite easily covered.

 

Just hope that Carlos and Charles get atleast somewhat competitive car next season.

[baddog]

Yeah, he didn't have the same car in 2014 too. And somehow Ferrari forgot to slow down his car in Hungary and Turkey.

 

Seb says nothing wrong there at all.

[Tombstone]

Is that Harry Potter in the middle? 

 

Nope. Harold Lloyd.

 

[Massa]

Finishing 6th was a blessing for Ferrari. (Thanks to Seb)
The team will have more than 10% of developpement in wind tunnel and CFD than Mercedes (12,5%) and Red Bull (10%), with more or less the same budget, for 2021.

Knowing that the development in 2021 will be for the 2022 car, Ferrari have absolutely ZERO excuse to not be front runner in 2022.

I think if Ferrari is not fighting for championship from the get go in 2022, Binotto is out.



https://motorsport.n...gee,155875.html

Edited by Massa, 01 January 2021 - 16:13.

[BRG]

I think if Ferrari is not fighting for championship from the get go in 2022, Binotto is out.

I am astonished that he is still there now, let alone surviving to 2022.  

[Astandahl]

https://www.motorspo...ifying/4308386/

 

Found this article today while searching for Carlos past performance. I really hope for him that Ferrari will fix the rear end issues with the SF 21 because if that isn't the car is gonna be really rought for him. The SF 1000 had huge balance issues and a very unstable rear end.

[ARTGP]

More or less many of the topics that have already been discussed: https://www.autospor...ine-for-f1-2021

 

Encouraging to hear.  New cooling system (less drag), better coke bottle, new gearbox, new cylinder heads, more thermal efficiency, more ERS efficiency, smaller turbines, etc. 

Edited by ARTGP, 15 January 2021 - 15:22.

[vlado]

More or less many of the topics that have already been discussed: https://www.autospor...ine-for-f1-2021

 

Encouraging to hear.  New cooling system (less drag), better coke bottle, new gearbox, new cylinder heads, more thermal efficiency, more ERS efficiency, smaller turbines, etc. 

 

3rd or 4th place at best.. 

[ARTGP]

3rd or 4th place at best.. 

 

Which is acceptable considering the focus is on '22. I don't believe they will challenge Mercedes (unless Mercedes lose the plot entirely) but I think anything else is fair game.

Edited by ARTGP, 15 January 2021 - 16:59.