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#51 kumo7

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 11:51

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it's interesting how both Ferrari and Red Bull seems to hav more rake this year.

(video of leaving the garage)

 

the nose is very narrow, compared to the last year's. the nose looks like McLaren, as well as bargeboard area.

The front wing looks to be placed muuuuch lower down to the track, nearly touching,... ouch! it's gonna be very fast...


Edited by kumo7, 12 February 2020 - 11:52.


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#52 Danyy

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:03

Look at that big Honda logo

#53 Marklar

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:06

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#54 Clrnc

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:07

Ferrari has gone RB in sidepods design, RB has gone Mercedes in sidepods design. 

 

This RB looks quick but also looks on the edge for reliability. 



#55 Danyy

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:08

Nice drift out the garage!
https://twitter.com/...1068131328?s=21

#56 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:10

Shame they aren’t running a special launch livery this year

#57 JBJ

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:14

 

 

This RB looks quick but also looks on the edge for reliability. 

 

:stoned:



#58 Clrnc

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:19

:stoned:

It gives me the MP4-18 feels  :lol: Not sure why



#59 PedroDiCasttro

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:31

It's way more intricate than what Ferrari did, and a clear evolution on last year's design.

 

Only time will tell if it works, but it clearly shows they're serious about getting that world title.



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#60 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:43

Ferrari has gone RB in sidepods design, RB has gone Mercedes in sidepods design. 

 

This RB looks quick but also looks on the edge for reliability. 

They all look the same to me :rotfl: Sidepods are sidepods. I wish I could see !



#61 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:56

They all look the same to me :rotfl: Sidepods are sidepods. I wish I could see !

Yeah, when I see arrows pointing at the sidepod and coke bottle, I have absolutely no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at!



#62 MasterOfCoin

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 13:11

Nice drift out the garage!
https://twitter.com/...1068131328?s=21

Don't let Gary Anderson see that, he'll say it has a nervous rear end.....lol


Edited by MasterOfCoin, 12 February 2020 - 13:11.


#63 statman

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 13:58

looks....fast  :smoking:



#64 f1rules

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:02

looks ordinary by redbull standards, but will be fast no doubt



#65 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:22

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#66 A3

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:26

Love the angle and look at that sidepod sloping.

 

https://i.imgur.com/96zLOkx.jpg

 

Hi res album:

https://imgur.com/a/vBp6FAF


Edited by A3, 12 February 2020 - 14:27.


#67 Mc_Silver

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:28

This car will be rapid in slow corners but not so much in the straights!

#68 Requiem84

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:37

This car will be rapid in slow corners but not so much in the straights!

 

Even if the car has high drag (which you imply) it might be strong on the straights if Honda delivers a strong PU :)



#69 Danyy

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:37

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#70 Augurk

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:40

A return to their higher downforce philosophy from the early 10's?

Or just a step away from the philosophy of introducing a fairly "bare" car to learn the concept's strengths and weaknesses only to add onto later with updates?

 

Anyway - the car design shows tremendous confidence in Honda. They're counting on a strong engine here. 



#71 Reddington

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 14:47

I like the sleeker nose.

#72 Ivanhoe

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:13

A return to their higher downforce philosophy from the early 10's?


This car will be rapid in slow corners but not so much in the straights!


Just curious, how can you tell this car is draggy/high downforce (which isn’t necessarily the same)?

#73 Mc_Silver

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:16


Just curious, how can you tell this car is draggy/high downforce (which isn’t necessarily the same)?


Aerodynamic concept of a car gives clue about the direction of the team is taking.

#74 Francesc

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:17

Engine cover behind the airbox looks very bulky compared to the Ferrari.

#75 Ivanhoe

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:19

Aerodynamic concept of a car gives clue about the direction of the team is taking.


That’s no answer to my question. What do you see that leads to that conclusion? Serious question I have zero knowledge about aerodynamic concepts.

#76 Augurk

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:19

Just curious, how can you tell this car is draggy/high downforce (which isn’t necessarily the same)?

It is my totally (un)professional opinion when I look at the car design and compare it to previous years. Previous years the car at presentation was pretty clean and bare, now there's little winglets and stuff everywhere. The bargeboards also look aimed at creating more downforce in stead of only ensuring a clean airflow.

 

TLDR: i don't know what the hell I'm talking about and it's mostly my "hopeful" bias that is doing the talking!



#77 SenorSjon

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:23

Engine cover behind the airbox looks very bulky compared to the Ferrari.

 

You have to put the warp drive somewhere. 



#78 Ivanhoe

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:24

Thanks Augurk, still not convinced this car is more draggy. The seemingly tighter package at the back should at least compensate a bit for extra downforce.

#79 Paco

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:46

There’s no way of knowing the coefficient of drag. Sorry, you can’t look at a car and see if it’s draggy, especially on high take cars like a the RB and Ferrari. There’s so much more about controlling airflow for downforce then just flat surfaces. Just look at Ferrari barge boards...

Plus, it seems people all want the df Mercedes has at the cost of dragginess so it’s thebdelicate balance of the two and seems this year it’s all about corner traction over straight line speed.

Of course, Mercedes will go and flip that to their old ways and say we went for straight line so they don’t get close enough in corners. Lol.

Edited by Paco, 12 February 2020 - 17:09.


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#80 Marklar

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:51

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#81 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:53

Oink



#82 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:54

So hideous. These cars just look grim.

#83 jules153

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 15:56

I like the sleeker nose.

Seems to get slimmer every time I see it!



#84 JimmyTheFox

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:00

I adjusted shadow and highlights:

 

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#85 Mc_Silver

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:05

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My vacuum cleaner looks better than that :D

#86 vee10

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:05

So hideous. These cars just look grim.

 

This generation of cars has been a aesthetic nightmare.



#87 kumo7

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:15

Oh mg

this will be either the merc beater or that 4 18



#88 SenorSjon

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:17

Dyson likes this.



#89 Rinehart

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:19

This car has to be the narrowest cross section ever (sidepod to sidepod) under these rules. The crash structure extensions are like fishing rods! 



#90 SCUDmissile

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:47

looks ugly. but will be fast no doubts.

 

So hideous. These cars just look grim.

 

next season can't come fast enough.



#91 Yoshi

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 16:59

Oh mg

this will be either the merc beater or that 4 18

 

Gary is it you?  :p



#92 f1rules

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:05

sidepods comparison with last year, seem they extended the shoulder part with a less aggressive ramp but then trading it for the ramp being full sidepod width towards the center

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#93 Paco

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:11

I adjusted shadow and highlights:

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Wow that’s is beyond hideous pig nose...

#94 GAZF1nut

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:24

Interesting to see them taking inspiration from Ferrari’s front wing design



#95 TomNokoe

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:26

Oh my, it's hideous!

#96 f1rules

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:30

comparison 15 vs 16 somehow i cannot show

 

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Edited by f1rules, 12 February 2020 - 20:34.


#97 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:32

Contender for one of the ugliest F1 cars in recent times. All of it is just nasty!



#98 Danyy

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:35

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#99 GAZF1nut

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:35

I must be the only one that likes it, looks sleek and very quick.



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#100 Cliff

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 17:38

Contender for one of the ugliest F1 cars in recent times. All of it is just nasty!

 

Anything 2007/2008 is hideous, this is absolutely beautiful compared to that...