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[Marklar]

First glimpses in the testing livery https://twitter.com/...594652838170624

[Clrnc]

Ah just testing livery? Was about to comment how sick it looks in matte black. 

[Peat]

They dun a Merc nose. 

[Marklar]

[Augurk]

So they didn't finish the car in time for their press release? Is this just a rumour or is this established as a fact?

 

Also wondering if this is symptomatic for RF1 processes. 

[Heyli]

read on a dutch newssite that the car was not ready, which is why they´re only showing some pictures? 

[Mc_Silver]

read on a dutch newssite that the car was not ready, which is why they´re only showing some pictures?

If this is true which is more than likely, It would be such a shame for such a brand like Renault.

Edited by Mc_Silver, 12 February 2020 - 14:50.

[TomNokoe]

I also see Merc nose.

Livery looks cool.

[thegobetween]

read on a dutch newssite that the car was not ready, which is why they´re only showing some pictures? 

So just share some nice renders of the car like Haas!

Edited by thegobetween, 12 February 2020 - 15:10.

[TomNokoe]

If this is true which is more than likely, It would be such a shame for such a brand like Renault.

They did fight tooth and nail for constructors points at the back end of last year - but even at worst they could've released a 2019/2020 hybrid. I think the lack of a launch is deliberate, surely?

[Viryfan]

They did fight tooth and nail for constructors points at the back end of last year - but even at worst they could've released a 2019/2020 hybrid. I think the lack of a launch is deliberate, surely?

The car was fired up ten days ago.

The fact they did not show render of the front of the car is interesting.

[Augurk]

Maybe the part that wasn't finished was the actual livery. 

Perhaps linked to the rumour of a big new sponsor. 

[Anja]

All right folks, if you say so it's season over and now just waiting for 2021 

[OO7]

They dun a Merc nose. 

Or they dun a Mc nose.

[OvDrone]

Most underwhelming 'launch' I've ever seen.

 

The hell is with those silly angled black renders? Might as well just show an MS Paint doodle. Cracked me up .

[kumo7]

They have not much to show I conclude

[SenorSjon]

I'm sorry, but why have such an event with nothing to show? Is this Drive to Survive S3E1 material?

[statman]

read on a dutch newssite that the car was not ready, which is why they´re only showing some pictures? 

 

Cyril approves! 

[Sunnny]

If thats their car in matte black then its amazing - they have gone the RB's matte finish route

[danstheman]

Neno? lol

 

Not much to show, or much to hide? 

 

I feel good about this for some reason...

 

How can you see the Merc nose from the renders released??

[statman]

Scarbs:

 

Its only got 4 gears and you're over revving it...!

@RenaultF1Team

 

Edited by statman, 12 February 2020 - 16:33.

[Amz964]

Neno? lol

Not much to show, or much to hide?

I feel good about this for some reason...

How can you see the Merc nose from the renders released??

Think the way the nose tapers in on the bulkhead appears to be a Merc or McLaren style nose. Yeah I am hoping they are hiding some things and the car is actually competitive.

[Viryfan]

The car is on its way to Barcelona currently according to Cyril Abiteboule.

[statman]

The car is on its way to Barcelona currently according to Cyril Abiteboule.

 

coming from Cyril, this could also mean it's currently being build in the factory..

[Mc_Silver]

coming from Cyril, this could also mean it's currently being build in the factory..

lol 😂

[Lerdes]

Not a good sign imo. They told us 2019 that they moved the power for 2020 early. And now - no new car just the illusion of it. Time for a big change? (poor Daniel...)

[Francesc]

The car is on its way to Barcelona currently according to Cyril Abiteboule.

 

5 days (in case they're doing a shakedown before official testing) on the road to reach Barcelona?

[Rinehart]

5 days (in case they're doing a shakedown before official testing) on the road to reach Barcelona?

This car is even slower than we thought! 

[Paco]

So that’s it for their launch... why even call that launch. F1 should fine the team for misleading statements... that’s utter nonsense. 10million euro fine for utter crap and spread it even amounts the bottom 5 teams for being stupid.

Edited by Paco, 12 February 2020 - 17:38.

[Heyli]

5 days (in case they're doing a shakedown before official testing) on the road to reach Barcelona?

I blame the Brexit.

[Viryfan]

So that’s it for their launch... why even call that launch. F1 should fine the team for misleading statements... that’s utter nonsense. 10million euro fine for utter crap and spread it evenly amoung the bottom 5 teams for being stupid.

They did not call it a launch in first instance but a "season opener".

[crespo]

Strong contender for F1 2020 (the video game).

[TTM0TION]

I blame the Brexit.

 

LOL!  I'm going with this also.  I really hope that they are in good form for RIC's sake.  Sadly the gut is tell me differently but I really hope it's them being ultra cautious.

[Viryfan]

According to Prost, they could not throw the 2019 car in the bin because of 2021 changes but they have changed the aero concept.

 

The main weakness according to Prost last was aero stability, the RS19 could loose up to 4 tenths in one corner, this will be acid test for the car.

 

According to Ocon, the car may have the same base as last year but everything aero wise is much different.

 

https://fr.motorspor...&utm_content=fr

 

The car is 55mm shorter than 2019.

Edited by Viryfan, 12 February 2020 - 18:31.

[Eruobodo]

They did not call it a launch in first instance but a "season opener".

Nah, this forum does not do facts when it comes to Renault or Cyril.

[TTM0TION]

Nah, this forum does not do facts when it comes to Renault or Cyril.

 

 

LOL, while there may be a bit of truth to this anyone not feeling a bit uneasy by that "display" is just being optimistically loyal. 

[Neno]

Neno? lol

 

Not much to show, or much to hide? 

 

I feel good about this for some reason...

 

How can you see the Merc nose from the renders released??

I personally think event was not needed under any circumstances.  But given how bad actually Renault is in this kind of events this is huge step forward in presentation as funny as that sounds. Even when you dont actually have car to show for.  Still miles better than putting fake frankenstein cars and introducing it as new car, better than fake frankenstein renders which look nothing like a car they introduce in Barcelona. 

 

I  will save my opinion about the car look when we actually get pictures of full car on track. I was personally so disgusted at last year car performance I dont expect anything from this one. Personally I dont expect anything more than fight with Toro Rosso's at best for 6th. To be anything more than that it needs to be fast from day one on tests and put most of tests days top 5 times. 

Edited by Neno, 12 February 2020 - 19:43.

[Paco]

What a bunch of hog wash from Cyril. Contradicts himself in same thought.. 1st the car is still being built and then in prices then, if you optimize it’s done to last minute yet it’s off to Barcelona. If you want to see, take pictures there.

What a bunch of crap and attitude.. then don’t freaking give out trader pics with that stupidity if you worried about how everyone is going to notice how undeveloped it is.

Edited by Paco, 12 February 2020 - 21:01.

[gowebber]

Interesting with what looks like it could be a Merc nose. Hope they are just trying to keep everyone guessing as late as they can. The start of this season can't come soon enough!

[Viryfan]

What a bunch of hog wash from Cyril. Contradicts himself in same thought.. 1st the car is still being built and then in prices then, if you optimize it’s done to last minute yet it’s off to Barcelona. If you want to see, take pictures there.

What a bunch of crap and attitude.. then don’t freaking give out trader pics with that stupidity if you worried about how everyone is going to notice how undeveloped it is.

They will shakedown the car on monday, hence why.

I don't see the whole point, of being fussed with that press conference.

[SonGoku]

I think the engine was fine last year believe it or not, just the horrible aero of the car destroyed their season. If they can fix that, I don't see why they couldn't do a McLaren 2019 like season.

[eREr]

It was 2020 season opener, not the intro of R20. Most of you mixing these very different things.

Most of the cynic comments make me laugh. Wait until next week mr. armchair experts to judge the R20 and the team.

Once more: this event was the season opener. Team called it this way from the first announcements, just check precisely their tweets.

[BCM]

They did not call it a launch in first instance but a "season opener".

What was the point of it though? Why not just do a pitlane jobbie like lots of teams have done over the years? Seemed like a completely pointless exercise to me.

[Paco]

What was the point of it though? Why not just do a pitlane jobbie like lots of teams have done over the years? Seemed like a completely pointless exercise to me.

Exactly. Smells of rotten eggs. Hope they don’t screw up like Williams did last year at the 1st test..

[Flasheart]

Jeez, some of the people here must lead a miserable existence. What a bunch of whingers. I look forward to seeing the full car, especially intrigued by the front end. From the tiny bit we can see, and has been pointed out, it looks a bit Merc-ish. The black renders do look nice, but for me, yellow and black is Renault. It also happens to be the colour scheme on my favourite ever pair of snow skis (useless factoid). Chill out you lot.

[LoudHoward]

What was the point of it though? Why not just do a pitlane jobbie like lots of teams have done over the years? Seemed like a completely pointless exercise to me.

 

They're on the front page of Autosport with a picture of a CGI car that has their sponsor names all over it, maybe that's the point? They'll be back up there again when the actual car gets shown as well.

 

I agree with some of the latter thoughts in this thread, I'm baffled by the negative reaction to this. You'd think people had lost something personally going by some of the reactions here and on Reddit, it's just a press/Q&A conference who cares?

[vee10]

It was still the 5th best car last year so that is not the worst baseline to work from, it had some weaknesses but if they can start to address those then there is no reason they can't reclaim 4th.

 

Overall this season feels like a bit of waste of time for anyone other than the top 3, why would go to the expense of developing your 2020 car for it all to go in the bin the following year?

[Rinehart]

Can't beleive how defensive Cyril is being. I'm surprised a CEO could get so worked up about what social media has to say about a trivial thing. Honestly not just this, but I am convinced the problem is that this is a man that doesn't perform at all well under pressure. 

[aray]

Can't beleive how defensive Cyril is being. I'm surprised a CEO could get so worked up about what social media has to say about a trivial thing. Honestly not just this, but I am convinced the problem is that this is a man that doesn't perform at all well under pressure. 

I wonder how he reached the present position in a company like Renault. He seems both insecure and incompetent.

[Quickshifter]

Under-playing expectations is one thing but this is some bad PR Renault could have done without. They say avoiding social media analysis is the reason for not showing their car yet have stirred up an unnecessary social media ridicule by doing a "fake" launch.

They should have either released the renders like many teams do or not other doing anything and launched the car in preseason testing instead they organize an event about something which does not exist in the event inviting unnecessary media scrutiny and social media ridicule. I am not going to speculate as to the competitiveness of the car just that the official noises coming from Renault appear to be one of having given up 2020 even before the season has begun.

Edited by Quickshifter, 13 February 2020 - 12:53.