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[Makarias]

Welcome to join season thirteen of Shareholders!

Previous Seasons' champions:
2008: an1res
2009: swiniodzik
2010: Grayson
2011: Grayson
2012: Grayson
2013: Costaz
2014: brunopascal
2015: Grayson
2016: Grayson
2017: thegforcemaybewithyou
2018: Apex
2019: jjcale

Rules are the same as previous years:

How to play the game
The players will be owning shares (100 each) of the drivers participating in the F1 WDC! When a driver scores points in an F1 race, each share owned in that driver will score points to the shareholders in question. The more shares there are owned in a driver, the lesser the return will be for each share. This means that it can be more profitable to own shares in a midfielder who scores just a few points but has proportionally few shares held on him than a frontrunner finishing on the podium.

Drivers are valued according to how much shares are invested in them:
-Frontrunning drivers get many shares and are expected to score often and highly, providing a steady points source but with little potential for real jackpots.
-Backmarkers get proportionally fewer shares and give a return less frequently, but when they do it they may be very rewarding as the dividends are shared by fewer shares.

Good "value for money" is investing in drivers that are undervalued, ie have disproportionally few shares invested in them compared to their actual points scoring potential.

Your entry will carry over from one race to the next, unless you decide to move a limited amount of the shares to a different driver. While this makes the game easy to play even for the laziest humanoids, it also makes it useful to know what shares you have at any given moment. If you don't pay attention, a previously good investment in a driver may become a bad deal if too many shares are added on him or if his form plummets.

Submitting an initial entry

The first time you play this game, you shall submit an entry where you place 100 shares among the drivers, fulfilling these conditions:
 
 * You may only hold 100 shares (or less, which doesn't help you) in total at a time.
 * You can not own fractions of a share, just integer shares.
 * You can place no more than 40 shares on any one driver.
 * You must own shares in at least three drivers.
 * You may not own shares in more than ten drivers.
 * You may edit your first entry as much as you like until the edit deadline (first free practice) for the coming race.

Note that there is no limit to the number of shares available for each driver.
Also note that your initial entry is the basis for the following rounds too! You'll be allowed to change no more than 20 shares before each race, so make sure your initial entry looks at least 80% respectable...

Since nobody initially knows what the playing field looks like before the first race, I will give several updates on what the total share distribution looks like among the entries submitted so far.

Entry Example A from 1975:
E Fittipaldi 37
Reutemann 22
Depailler 16
Peterson 12
Ickx 10
Donohue 3

Editing your entry after the first round it takes part in
 * After the first race your entry took part in, you may only change 20 of your shares at a time (for the next race).
 * You do not have to edit your entry at all! If you so wish, you can leave your entry as it is from race one and not make a single change throughout the season. This is however a lazy option that won't make you ultimately competitive.
 * If a driver is replaced -temporarily or permanently- during the season, the shares placed on him will automatically be transferred to the replacing driver. So you could say that the shares actually are attached to the car number.
 * You may edit your changes as much as you like until the edit deadline for the coming race.
 * Edit deadline for changes is the beginning of first free practice for each race.

Example B:
After the first race, the shareholder who submitted the entry in Example A from 1975 realizes that the Lotus is a dud, and submits an edit to her entry as follows:

She decides to Sell:
Peterson -10
Ickx -10

She decides to Buy:
Pace +10
Reutemann +5
Depailler +5

Her new "portfolio" will after the entry look like this:
E Fittipaldi 37
Reutemann 27
Depailler 21
Pace 10
Donohue 3
Peterson 2

The above change of shares can perhaps best be written like this:
E Fittipaldi 37
Reutemann 27 (+5)
Depailler 21 (+5)
Pace 10 (+10)
Donohue 3
Peterson 2 (-10)
Ickx 0 (-10)

An edit doesn't have to look just like above, any way is fine as long as it's easy to understand which driver shares are to be sold and which to be bought.

NOTE: I will only sporadically be posting updates on what each player's portfolio looks like, so remember to keep track of what you own!
The reason you're only allowed to change just 20 shares each round is that it adds some stability to the whole system: I hopefully won't get a nervous breakdown before every round, and the values for each driver won't move around all over the place from one round to the other. It will also force the players to think more long term with their investments.
Keep in mind that when there are shares removed from a driver, the potential return from the shares that remain will increase and vice versa. Holding many shares in a backmarker is an inefficient investment, as for each extra share you get your ownership percentage won't increase by much.

Points Scoring

*The score a player receives from a driver is calculated like this:

[DScore] = 9.92*[TShares]*[DRace]*[PDShares]/[DShares]

where
[TShares] = The total number of shares in the entire game at the moment
[DRace] = The number of points the driver in question scored in the race
[PDShares] = The number of shares the player owns in the driver
[DShares] = The total number of shares owned in the driver in question by ALL players.

In order to only mess around with integer scores, the 9.92*[TShares]/[DShares] factor will be rounded off DOWN to the nearest integer. This factor equals the amount of game points one share will give per WDC point scored by the driver in question.

*The player's total score of the round is simply the sum of the [DScore] values from all drivers.

Thanks to the 9.92 factor, and the [TShares] factor scaling scores up with the amount of players, an average total score for a round will always be around 100,000 points or 1000 points per share, regardless of the number of players. At least if there are shares owned in all points scoring drivers.

Example C:
Emerson Fittipaldi finishes 2nd in a race;
there are 30 players in the game all with 100 shares each;
400 of all shares are placed on Emmo.

The entry in example B will then score approximately
9.92*3000*18*37/400 points,
which with the rounding off will amount to exactly 49284 points.

A good result from 37 shares. 400/3000 shares would mean a driver is valued at 13.4666... points per race, and second place obviously is better than that.
The 1975 drivers magically score points according to the current F1 points system which makes perfect sense because this is just a hypothetical example and why didn't the player invest in Lauda anyway? Probably because he was overvalued, that's why!

[Makarias]

I'm throwing in a preliminary entry that I'll edit later on when I can see what market lunacy I feel needs to be corrected:

 

Hamilton 21

Vettel 18

Leclerc 16

Gasly 12

Magnussen 10

Perez 7

Ricciardo 5

Stroll 4

Albon 4

Sainz 3

Edited by Makarias, 07 March 2020 - 18:54.

[Makarias]

And as a reminder, FL points are IGNORED in my games! Bah!

[DutchQuicksilver]

Hamilton 25

Verstappen 25

Bottas 25

Perez 15

Magnussen 10

[jjcale]

LH   22

VB   18

MV  18

SP   11

SV    9

CL    9

AA    7

LS    6

Edited by jjcale, 02 July 2020 - 02:58.

[Marklar]

Verstappen 15
Bottas 15
Perez 12
Hamilton 10
Vettel 8
Leclerc 8
Sainz 8
Norris 8
Ocon 8
Ricciardo 8

[mark f1]

Vettel 5

Leclerc 10

Hamilton 20

Bottas 15

Verstappen 15

Perez 15

Stroll 10

Albon 10

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

Hamilton 25

Verstappen 20

Vettel 25

Leclerc 10

Sainz 5

Ricciardo 5

Perez 5

Raikkonen 5

Edited by thegforcemaybewithyou, 03 July 2020 - 04:09.

[KWSN - DSM]

Hamilton 10

Bottas 10

Verstappen 10

Albon 10

Vettel 10

Leclerc 10

Perez 10

Magnussen 10

Norris 10

Ricciardo 10

 

[GTA]

Hamilton 10

Bottas 10

Vettel 10

Leclerc 10

Perez 10

Stroll 10

Verstappen 10

Albon 10

Gasly 10

Giovinazzi 10

Edited by GTA, 12 March 2020 - 21:36.

[jjcale]

Quick question - 

 

"Good "value for money" is investing in drivers that are undervalued, ie have disproportionally few shares invested in them compared to their actual points scoring potential."

 

How does this work for the first race .... are the drivers all equal for the first race ... eg does a win by LH score the same points as a win by NL??

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

Makarias will post an update on the share distribution ahead of every race. For the 2019 Abu Dhabi race you can see it here: https://forums.autos...s/#entry8958674

 

The higher the number of DShares, the lower the return in points. Have a look at the formula from the first post:

 

"[DScore] = 9.92*[TShares]*[DRace]*[PDShares]/[DShares]

where
[TShares] = The total number of shares in the entire game at the moment
[DRace] = The number of points the driver in question scored in the race
[PDShares] = The number of shares the player owns in the driver
[DShares] = The total number of shares owned in the driver in question by ALL players."

[Makarias]

Share distribution update:

DRIVER      DShares   Race Season    VPP Owners
Hamilton        146  18.43 387.08     54      8
Verstappen      115  14.52 304.89     69      7
Bottas           95  11.99 251.87     83      6
Perez            94  11.87 249.22     84      8
Vettel           71   8.96 188.24    111      6
Leclerc          54   6.82 143.17    146      5
Sainz            41   5.18 108.70    193      5
Stroll           34   4.29  90.14    233      4
Ricciardo        33   4.17  87.49    240      4
Magnussen        30   3.79  79.54    264      3
Albon            24   3.03  63.63    330      3
Gasly            22   2.78  58.33    360      2
Norris           18   2.27  47.72    440      2
Giovinazzi       10   1.26  26.51    793      1
Ocon              8   1.01  21.21    992      1
Räikkönen         5   0.63  13.26   1587      1
Grosjean          0   0.00   0.00    N/A      0
Kvyat             0   0.00   0.00    N/A      0
Latifi            0   0.00   0.00    N/A      0
Russell           0   0.00   0.00    N/A      0

DRIVER           Win      P2      P3      P4      P5      P6      P7      P8      P9     P10
Hamilton        1350     972     810     648     540     432     324     216     108      54
Verstappen      1725    1242    1035     828     690     552     414     276     138      69
Bottas          2075    1494    1245     996     830     664     498     332     166      83
Perez           2100    1512    1260    1008     840     672     504     336     168      84
Vettel          2775    1998    1665    1332    1110     888     666     444     222     111
Leclerc         3650    2628    2190    1752    1460    1168     876     584     292     146
Sainz           4825    3474    2895    2316    1930    1544    1158     772     386     193
Stroll          5825    4194    3495    2796    2330    1864    1398     932     466     233
Ricciardo       6000    4320    3600    2880    2400    1920    1440     960     480     240
Magnussen       6600    4752    3960    3168    2640    2112    1584    1056     528     264
Albon           8250    5940    4950    3960    3300    2640    1980    1320     660     330
Gasly           9000    6480    5400    4320    3600    2880    2160    1440     720     360
Norris         11000    7920    6600    5280    4400    3520    2640    1760     880     440
Giovinazzi     19825   14274   11895    9516    7930    6344    4758    3172    1586     793
Ocon           24800   17856   14880   11904    9920    7936    5952    3968    1984     992
Räikkönen      39675   28566   23805   19044   15870   12696    9522    6348    3174    1587
Grosjean           0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0
Kvyat              0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0
Latifi             0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0
Russell            0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0       0

Still early days and not that many entries. Lots of changes to come!

[HeidfeldsBeard]

Bottas - 27

Hamilton - 21

Verstappen - 15

Leclerc - 12

Ocon - 8

Norris - 7

Kvyat - 6

Russell - 4

[SpaceHorseParty]

Hamilton 25
Albon 15
Norris 15
Stroll 15
Ocon 15
Kvyat 9

Sainz 5
Latifi 1

Edited by SpaceHorseParty, 13 March 2020 - 04:27.

[Kev00]

Bottas 22
Albon 15
Leclerc 15
Verstappen 10
Hamilton 10
Stroll 10
Ocon 10
Ricciardo 8

[M2000-5]

Some changes:

 

Perez 20
Stroll 15
Hamilton 15
Verstappen 25
Leclerc 10
Albon 10
Sainz 5

Edited by M2000-5, 03 July 2020 - 04:55.

[Brawn BGP 001]

Hamilton 25

Verstappen 25

Bottas 20

Ricciardo 10

Norris 10

Sainz 10

[Makarias]

I'm changing my entry, sorry for not updating more often:

Vettel 26

Leclerc 21

Albon 12

Gasly 12

Magnussen 10

Hamilton 7

Ricciardo 5

Sainz 5

Grosjean 2

[Makarias]

SpaceHorseParty has only submitted 90 shares and should add another ten for optimal happiness!

DRIVER      DShares   Race Season    VPP Owners
Hamilton        248  18.02 378.42     55     14
Verstappen      192  13.95 292.97     71     12
Bottas          179  13.01 273.14     77     10
Perez           128   9.30 195.32    107      9
Leclerc         113   8.21 172.43    122     10
Vettel           88   6.39 134.28    156      7
Albon            87   6.32 132.75    158      7
Stroll           79   5.74 120.55    174      7
Ricciardo        51   3.71  77.82    270      6
Norris           50   3.63  76.29    275      5
Ocon             41   2.98  62.56    336      4
Sainz            33   2.40  50.35    417      4
Magnussen        30   2.18  45.78    459      3
Gasly            27   1.96  41.20    510      3
Kvyat            20   1.45  30.52    689      3
Giovinazzi       10   0.73  15.26   1378      1
Russell           6   0.44   9.16   2298      2
Räikkönen         5   0.36   7.63   2757      1
Grosjean          2   0.15   3.05   6894      1
Latifi            1   0.07   1.53  13788      1

DRIVER           Win      P2      P3      P4      P5      P6      P7      P8      P9     P10
Hamilton        1375     990     825     660     550     440     330     220     110      55
Verstappen      1775    1278    1065     852     710     568     426     284     142      71
Bottas          1925    1386    1155     924     770     616     462     308     154      77
Perez           2675    1926    1605    1284    1070     856     642     428     214     107
Leclerc         3050    2196    1830    1464    1220     976     732     488     244     122
Vettel          3900    2808    2340    1872    1560    1248     936     624     312     156
Albon           3950    2844    2370    1896    1580    1264     948     632     316     158
Stroll          4350    3132    2610    2088    1740    1392    1044     696     348     174
Ricciardo       6750    4860    4050    3240    2700    2160    1620    1080     540     270
Norris          6875    4950    4125    3300    2750    2200    1650    1100     550     275
Ocon            8400    6048    5040    4032    3360    2688    2016    1344     672     336
Sainz          10425    7506    6255    5004    4170    3336    2502    1668     834     417
Magnussen      11475    8262    6885    5508    4590    3672    2754    1836     918     459
Gasly          12750    9180    7650    6120    5100    4080    3060    2040    1020     510
Kvyat          17225   12402   10335    8268    6890    5512    4134    2756    1378     689
Giovinazzi     34450   24804   20670   16536   13780   11024    8268    5512    2756    1378
Russell        57450   41364   34470   27576   22980   18384   13788    9192    4596    2298
Räikkönen      68925   49626   41355   33084   27570   22056   16542   11028    5514    2757
Grosjean      172350  124092  103410   82728   68940   55152   41364   27576   13788    6894
Latifi        344700  248184  206820  165456  137880  110304   82728   55152   27576   13788

Edited by Makarias, 12 March 2020 - 22:18.

[HeidfeldsBeard]

Bottas - 27
Hamilton - 21
Verstappen - 15
Leclerc - 12
Ocon - 8
Grosjean - 7
Kvyat - 6
Russell - 4

Slight Amendment

[Makarias]

DRIVER      DShares   Race Season    VPP Owners
Hamilton        248  18.02 378.42     55     14
Verstappen      192  13.95 292.97     71     12
Bottas          179  13.01 273.14     77     10
Perez           118   8.57 180.06    116      9
Leclerc         113   8.21 172.43    122     10
Albon            97   7.05 148.01    142      8
Vettel           88   6.39 134.28    156      7
Stroll           74   5.38 112.92    186      7
Ricciardo        56   4.07  85.45    246      7
Norris           43   3.12  65.61    320      4
Ocon             41   2.98  62.56    336      4
Sainz            33   2.40  50.35    417      4
Magnussen        30   2.18  45.78    459      3
Gasly            27   1.96  41.20    510      3
Kvyat            20   1.45  30.52    689      3
Giovinazzi       10   0.73  15.26   1378      1
Grosjean          9   0.65  13.73   1532      2
Russell           6   0.44   9.16   2298      2
Räikkönen         5   0.36   7.63   2757      1
Latifi            1   0.07   1.53  13788      1

DRIVER           Win      P2      P3      P4      P5      P6      P7      P8      P9     P10
Hamilton        1375     990     825     660     550     440     330     220     110      55
Verstappen      1775    1278    1065     852     710     568     426     284     142      71
Bottas          1925    1386    1155     924     770     616     462     308     154      77
Perez           2900    2088    1740    1392    1160     928     696     464     232     116
Leclerc         3050    2196    1830    1464    1220     976     732     488     244     122
Albon           3550    2556    2130    1704    1420    1136     852     568     284     142
Vettel          3900    2808    2340    1872    1560    1248     936     624     312     156
Stroll          4650    3348    2790    2232    1860    1488    1116     744     372     186
Ricciardo       6150    4428    3690    2952    2460    1968    1476     984     492     246
Norris          8000    5760    4800    3840    3200    2560    1920    1280     640     320
Ocon            8400    6048    5040    4032    3360    2688    2016    1344     672     336
Sainz          10425    7506    6255    5004    4170    3336    2502    1668     834     417
Magnussen      11475    8262    6885    5508    4590    3672    2754    1836     918     459
Gasly          12750    9180    7650    6120    5100    4080    3060    2040    1020     510
Kvyat          17225   12402   10335    8268    6890    5512    4134    2756    1378     689
Giovinazzi     34450   24804   20670   16536   13780   11024    8268    5512    2756    1378
Grosjean       38300   27576   22980   18384   15320   12256    9192    6128    3064    1532
Russell        57450   41364   34470   27576   22980   18384   13788    9192    4596    2298
Räikkönen      68925   49626   41355   33084   27570   22056   16542   11028    5514    2757
Latifi        344700  248184  206820  165456  137880  110304   82728   55152   27576   13788

[Anderis]

Bottas 25

Stroll 20

Sainz 20

Raikkonen 10

Giovinazzi 10

Russell 10

Latifi 5

[SpaceHorseParty]

SpaceHorseParty has only submitted 90 shares and should add another ten for optimal happiness!

I've edited it now. Are we free to edit until the next race?

[Makarias]

Yes, edit is totally free until some FP session starts in the distant future.

[Makarias]

The distant future is getting closer...

DRIVER      DShares   Race Season    VPP Owners
Hamilton        253  17.04 357.74     58     14
Bottas          204  13.74 288.46     72     11
Verstappen      192  12.93 271.49     77     12
Perez           118   7.95 166.85    126      9
Leclerc         113   7.61 159.78    131     10
Albon            97   6.53 137.16    153      8
Stroll           94   6.33 132.92    158      8
Vettel           88   5.93 124.43    169      7
Sainz            58   3.91  82.01    256      6
Ricciardo        56   3.77  79.18    265      7
Norris           43   2.90  60.80    346      4
Ocon             41   2.76  57.97    362      4
Magnussen        30   2.02  42.42    496      3
Gasly            27   1.82  38.18    551      3
Giovinazzi       20   1.35  28.28    744      2
Kvyat            20   1.35  28.28    744      3
Russell          16   1.08  22.62    930      3
Räikkönen        15   1.01  21.21    992      2
Grosjean          9   0.61  12.73   1653      2
Latifi            6   0.40   8.48   2480      2

DRIVER           Win      P2      P3      P4      P5      P6      P7      P8      P9     P10
Hamilton        1450    1044     870     696     580     464     348     232     116      58
Bottas          1800    1296    1080     864     720     576     432     288     144      72
Verstappen      1925    1386    1155     924     770     616     462     308     154      77
Perez           3150    2268    1890    1512    1260    1008     756     504     252     126
Leclerc         3275    2358    1965    1572    1310    1048     786     524     262     131
Albon           3825    2754    2295    1836    1530    1224     918     612     306     153
Stroll          3950    2844    2370    1896    1580    1264     948     632     316     158
Vettel          4225    3042    2535    2028    1690    1352    1014     676     338     169
Sainz           6400    4608    3840    3072    2560    2048    1536    1024     512     256
Ricciardo       6625    4770    3975    3180    2650    2120    1590    1060     530     265
Norris          8650    6228    5190    4152    3460    2768    2076    1384     692     346
Ocon            9050    6516    5430    4344    3620    2896    2172    1448     724     362
Magnussen      12400    8928    7440    5952    4960    3968    2976    1984     992     496
Gasly          13775    9918    8265    6612    5510    4408    3306    2204    1102     551
Giovinazzi     18600   13392   11160    8928    7440    5952    4464    2976    1488     744
Kvyat          18600   13392   11160    8928    7440    5952    4464    2976    1488     744
Russell        23250   16740   13950   11160    9300    7440    5580    3720    1860     930
Räikkönen      24800   17856   14880   11904    9920    7936    5952    3968    1984     992
Grosjean       41325   29754   24795   19836   16530   13224    9918    6612    3306    1653
Latifi         62000   44640   37200   29760   24800   19840   14880    9920    4960    2480

[scheivlak]

Verstappen 25

Hamilton 15

Sainz 12

Albon 12

Bottas 10

Vettel 10

Gasly 5

Grosjean 5

Raikkonen 4

Russell 2