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[Gary C]

Lads, I'm looking for the complete entry list and results for this meeting, does anyone know where I can find it? I've found the F5000 results but I need everything else too.

Edited by Gary C, 24 April 2020 - 14:04.

[Tim Murray]

What date, Gary? There were Guards Championship F5000 rounds at Brands on 30th March, 3rd May and 27th September.

[Gary C]

Ah, I don't actually know Tim,. my negatives aren't dated, but.............but the sunshine does look like late summer, so September?

[Tim Murray]

Ah, OK. Well, in case this helps narrow it down, the F5000 race on 30th March had supporting races for F.Ford, SKF GTs and Hepolite Glacier saloons. On 3rd May the supports were Les Leston F.Ford, Hepolite Glacier saloons and Lombank F3. The supports on 27th September were STP modsports, F.Ford and Hepolite Glacier saloons.

I reckon we’re going to need someone to come up with a programme as, apart from the brief results in Autosport, the only entry and results list I can find on line is for the F3 race on 3rd May:

http://www.the-fastl...2/F370_GB14.htm

which unfortunately doesn’t include the race numbers.

[Gary C]

Thanks Tim, I'll check my negs against this for starters.

[68targa]

I have these from 30th Sept 1970 meeting if of any help to you.

The handwriting is mine - I was a bit trainspotterish about filling them at that time so whilst I cannot guarantee it I would say about 99% accurate !

 

There were 3 support races.  Events 2 & 5 were the F5000 races which I can copy if you want.  I also have the same for the 30 March & 3 May meetings if this is what you are looking for.

Hope of use

Chris

 

 

[MCS]

Both the 3rd May and 27th September programmes are on UK ebay if that helps at £9.99 each. 

 

There is an image of the F5000 entry for the May meeting with Peter Hawtin listed as "Ippoc Astano" - I suspect that is how he filled in the entry form.

[Gary C]

Here's a selection of scans of the negatives that I have....would they be of any help?

 

 

 

 

 

I'm thinking that's maybe Gerry Birrell in the last (incomplete) pic?

Oh, and there's one really nice pic taken in the paddock of Emerson Fittipladi chatting with (it looks like) Carlos Pace.

Edited by Gary C, 25 April 2020 - 10:45.

[68targa]

These are all from the Motor Show 200 18 Oct 1970.

 

#9 Brian Muir Chev Camaro

#37 Hans Akersloot - Alfa Romeo GTA

#82 Colin Vandervell's March 703

#40 Carlos Pace - Lotus 59A

#1 Gerry Birrell Brabham BT28 (who won his heat ahead of a certain James Hunt)

 

I can send you copies of the programme if you need these

[68targa]

This is from the programme for the 18 Oct 1970 Motor Show 200 Brand Hatch. 

I thought I would post these pages here which might be of interest to all - the huge F3 entry had to be split into 2 heats and a final. Just look at the names for the Formula 3 race, 9 of them went on to drive in a Grand Prix and 2 became World Champions. I don't think anyone thought that at the time.

 

There are some interesting names within the other race entries as well.

 

[Gary C]

68targa, many thanks for these scans--absolutely invaluable!

[Tim Murray]

There was no F5000 race at the 18th October meeting, so presumably Gary’s negatives are from (at least) two meetings?

[bradbury west]

Were there any Clubmans races in those programmes, please?. On the front cover of one of the December 1970 Autosports, with an annual review, was a full colour photo of the Clubmans grid, from the rear. One of my DRWs shows up clearly in white up towards the front of the grid. It looks to be a sunny day and the caption indicates it was much earlier in the year. I have the front cover etc, but my records as yet show no evidence of one of the cars in that race. My period Autosport and MNews show no details.
The programmes which I have, or to which I have had access, do not cover the race, but I short of the June issues.
Having bought a good selection of relevant programmes, I am always reluctant to buy blind, not knowing the race entry make up. Some vendors show the cover/date plus the programme events. Some are kind enough to post some brace entry sheets, pot luck there, but often a bonus, so worth buying, and occasionally vendors show all the race entry lists. Often it is a case of just completing my files for the entry with the car race number, plus seeing against whom the cars raced.
Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Roger Lund

[68targa]

None of the programmes mentioned above (30 March, 3 May, 27 Sept, 18 Oct) have Clubmans races.

 

Here is the fixture list fropm 1970 for Brands Hatch.

 

 

 

The 25 January meeting had a Clubmans race combined with Mod sports but no DRW is listed.

Likewise for the 22 Feb meeting.

Below is 1st March 1970 meeting and Clubmans race with DRW #49.   I don't have any other programmes for Clubmans meetings in 1970

 

[ChrisJson]

This is from the programme for the 18 Oct 1970 Motor Show 200 Brand Hatch. 

I thought I would post these pages here which might be of interest to all - the huge F3 entry had to be split into 2 heats and a final. Just look at the names for the Formula 3 race, 9 of them went on to drive in a Grand Prix and 2 became World Champions. I don't think anyone thought that at the time.

 

 

I make it 12 that have driven a GP and a couple more that didn´t qualify. My guess is you forgot Torsten Palm, Conny Andersson and Jean Max.

 

Christer

[68targa]

Yes indeed.

[nexfast]

Actually 14 - Beuttler, Purley, Palm, Andersson  Walker, Hunt, W. Fittipaldi, Max Jean (not Jean Max as the programme says), Jarier, Morgan, Jones, Pace, Ashley, Migault.

 

Trimmer and Sutcliffe tried but were not successful.

 

By the way, the obscure Ernesto Nevef (in the Formula Ford race) real name is Ernesto Neves

[john winfield]

Thanks for the scans, Targa. These programmes always make interesting reading.

 

The October Motor Show meeting was the third time I'd seen F3 at Brands that year, with a different winner, all British, each time: Beuttler at the GP, Birrell on August Bank Holiday, and Trimmer in October. 

 

The Formula Ford entry is interesting: American Steve Matchett was racing, having run in F3 earlier in the season, and Gerry Birrell has an FF entry driven by Tony Dron. As you would expect, several of the 1970 FF drivers would be regulars in F3 within a year or two, and at least three would be part of the UK/European F5000 scene: Bob Evans, Damien Magee and Tom Belso.

 

Looking at the saloons, this was obviously one of those meetings where the Escorts managed to get one over on the Mustangs and Camaros, John Fitzpatrick winning in the Broadspeed car. I can't remember why Frank Gardner and the Boss Mustang weren't there. Was there a clashing F5000 round somewhere perhaps? 

[bradbury west]

68 targa, many thanks for your assistance.
Roger Lund

[Tim Murray]

Looking at the saloons, this was obviously one of those meetings where the Escorts managed to get one over on the Mustangs and Camaros, John Fitzpatrick winning in the Broadspeed car. I can't remember why Frank Gardner and the Boss Mustang weren't there. Was there a clashing F5000 round somewhere perhaps?

The F5000 championship’s final round had been at Brands on 27th September. There were quite a few top names (McGovern, Gardner, Craft etc) missing from the saloon race. Craft had a good excuse as he was racing the DFV-engined McLaren M8C at the Nürburgring, but it’s not clear why the others weren’t there; perhaps they chose not to bother as the championship was done and dusted.

In their event preview Autosport tipped Gardner to replace Craft in the big Broadspeed Escort, but in the end John Fitzpatrick got the drive. The surprise for me was seeing Mike Hailwood down to drive an Escort. Autosport said it was his first ever saloon car race. I don’t recall him doing many more.

[glyn parham]

Both Gardner and McGovern missed the final round as the BSCC title had already been decided, but I had forgotten that Gardner was being considered as Craft's replacement.
Glyn

[68targa]

 

The Formula Ford entry is interesting: American Steve Matchett was racing, having run in F3 earlier in the season, and Gerry Birrell has an FF entry driven by Tony Dron. As you would expect, several of the 1970 FF drivers would be regulars in F3 within a year or two, and at least three would be part of the UK/European F5000 scene: Bob Evans, Damien Magee and Tom Belso.

 

Yes and Bob Evans, Damien Magee and Tom Belso also went on to drive in a Grand Prix.

Bob Evans with a Stanley BRM (1975) & Tom Belso Iso Marlboro (South Africa & Spain 1974). Damien Magee drove a works entered Williams in Sweden in 1975 which I think was his only GP drive.

[john winfield]

Thanks Tim/Glyn for the saloon comments. Still a bit of a surprise that the McGovern/Gardner teams weren't there. I see from Frank de Jong's notes that Brian Muir might have crashed on the penultimate lap. I wonder if he and Fitzpatrick were battling at the front. I can't remember, and no longer have that particular Motoring News.

[MCS]

. . . The Formula Ford entry is interesting: American Steve Matchett was racing, having run in F3 earlier in the season. . . 

But what was the Mirage M5? 

 

Matchett also remains a mystery.  Following some appearances in F3 in a Chevron, he attempted F5000 in the UK during 1972, but crashed his Leda LT25 at a Silverstone round (his only appearance, I believe), didn't start and promptly disappeared again as far as I know.

[Tim Murray]

I see from Frank de Jong's notes that Brian Muir might have crashed on the penultimate lap. I wonder if he and Fitzpatrick were battling at the front. I can't remember, and no longer have that particular Motoring News.

Sounds to have been a good race. Muir pulled out a ten second lead over Fitz in the early stages, but the Camaro’s handling deteriorated as the fuel load lightened so by half distance Fitz was back on Muir’s tail. The rest of the race was a real ding-dong between the two of them, but the Escort rarely led across the line as Muir could usually get a good run at it out of Clearways. It was looking good for Brian, but on the last lap the Camaro’s steering failed at Dingle Dell, leaving Brian with, as he put it, ‘five turns, but no lock-to-lock’. He hit the bank fairly gently, leaving the win to Fitz, but they had been so far ahead of the rest that he still ended up classified third.

[john winfield]

Brilliant, thanks Tim.

 

Edit.

 

It's an odd coincidence, and perhaps why I think I'm muddling two races in my mind, both watched from Clearways. A year later, John Fitzpatrick was, once again, mixing it with the bigger cars, this time Frank Gardner in the 5.7 litre Camaro and Gerry Birrell's 2.9 Capri. Fitz was in the 1.8 Broadspeed Escort. The three of them were at it hammer and tongs until Frank's tyre exploded between Stirlings and the Clearways bridge. The Camaro hit the Escort, and Gerry B was left with a comfortable win.

 

Two similar battles, both resolved by drama in the Dingle Dell / Stirlings area.

Edited by john winfield, 26 April 2020 - 17:09.

[Cirrus]

But what was the Mirage M5? 

 

Matchett also remains a mystery.  Following some appearances in F3 in a Chevron, he attempted F5000 in the UK during 1972, but crashed his Leda LT25 at a Silverstone round (his only appearance, I believe), didn't start and promptly disappeared again as far as I know.

 

I think the Mirage FF was a development of the Pringett Mistrale.

[MCS]

Thanks Alan.  So another link to the South Coast then?  The Pringett Mistrale, Matchett, Leda, Len Terry, etc.