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Indycar 1995 WatchParty Round 8: The ITT Automotive Grand Prix of Detroit (Start 6pm BST Sunday)


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#1 Risil

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 21:54

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Paul Tracy and Al Unser’s duel in Milwaukee now in the rear-view mirror, the 1995 Indycar championship of memory and indeed fact moves onto the twisty, bumpy, tree-lined, lake-surrounded parkland circuit at Belle Isle, Detroit. The not-yet-definitively F1-bound Jacques Villeneuve holds a one-win advantage over divers challengers including Robby Gordon, Scott Pruett and Bobby Rahal. Indycar in 1995, as the commentators regularly inform us, is Wide Open. But Jacques is one step ahead. For now.
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The Belle Isle circuit is a relatively new one for 1995, having arrived on the calendar three years previously and garnered a reputation for cramped confines, incident and strange results. Over those three years we’ve seen a drizzle-inflected, pugilistic three-way battle for the lead, a chaotic last career win for Danny Sullivan in which Andrea Montermini somehow finished fourth, and a classic Paul Tracy victory where he outbraked himself and literally punted his teammate out of the lead, going on to win with the normal-for-a-racing-driver degree of shame, which is to say none. If there’s anything those three races had in common, it’s that the tight confines and strange combination of asphalts and concretes make for a mistake-heavy and passing-lite street circuit. But Indycar being Indycar, things tend to happen anyway.
 
How went qualifying?
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Robby Gordon takes a second pole position of the year, with Milwaukee fast guys Unser, Fabi and Tracy starting immediately behind and to the side of him. Points leader Jacques Villeneuve lines up on the fifth row with five championship rivals starting ahead of him. Galles underdog Adrian Fernandez starts from a season-best seventh, and PacWest’s Danny Sullivan outqualifies his teammate Mo Gugelmin. Results below:
 
1. Robby Gordon 1:09.795, Walker R/F/G
2. Al Unser, Jr +0.183, Team Penske P/M/G
3. Teo Fabi +0.196, Forsythe R/F/G
4. Paul Tracy +0.324, Newman-Haas L/F/G
5. Scott Pruett +0.593, Patrick L/F/F
6. Michael Andretti +0.650, Newman-Haas L/F/G
7. Adrian Fernandez +0.658, Galles L/M/G
8. Bobby Rahal +0.842, Rahal-Hogan L/M/G
9. Jacques Villeneuve +0.884, Team Green R/F/G
10. Danny Sullivan +0.896, PacWest R/F/G
11. Mo Gugelmin +0.935, PacWest R/F/G
12. Stefan Johansson +0.988, Bettenhausen P/M/G
 
De Ferran 16th, Emerson Fittipaldi 17th, Ribeiro 19th. Christian Danner is back (hooray!), starting 23rd (boo). New guy Parker Johnstone starts his and Comptech Racing’s first Indycar race from 27th. Notable for his early-nineties domination of IMSA Camel GT’s class B, he at least knows what it’s like to start with a lot of cars in front of him. Although Johnstone’s Wikipedia page notes – before any details of his racing career – that he once played in the Berlin Philharmonic when it was conducted by Herbert von Karajan. One of the pundits could say that Parker’s traded Liebestod for heel-and-toe, but I’m not getting my hopes up. Or should that be down.
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We’ll get the show started at 6pm BST on Sunday, 3 May. Video below!

 



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#2 paulb

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 00:00

Giggity.

#3 Jim Thurman

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 06:39

I'll let someone else tackle "lake-surrounded"   ;)

Enjoy the race, folks!  :wave:



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 11:29

I'll let someone else tackle "lake-surrounded"   ;)

Enjoy the race, folks!  :wave:

Sounds like I've floated Belle Isle a dozen miles down the Detroit River. Or perhaps up. Geography, eh? Literally everything I know about the water system of the Great Lakes comes from The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 11:43

It's just a matter of scale.

 

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Michigan, Huron, St. Claire (the little one) and Erie are pretty much surrounding it.

 

Zoom out a bit further and you could justify ocean surrounded.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 14:45

Belle Isle is actually located on the Detroit River.  I've been to the race there, IMO not a good place to watch a race.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 14:48

Does the Detroit River flow into Lake Erie? I guess so as that's vaguely I'm the direction of the Atlantic Ocean?

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 15:04

With a suitable vessel, you could drop something in the river at the Detroit Indycar race and pick it up at the Canadian Grand Prix.



#9 GlenWatkins

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 15:04

Yes, Lake Erie over Niagra Falls which flows into Lake Ontario, then into the St Lawrence river, which flows through Montreal and Isle Notre Dame where the F1 Canadian GP, and finally empties into the atlantic.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 15:35

Spotter's guide:

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Excitingly, I think this is actually the spotter's guide created for the Detroit weekend, so you don't have to mentally add or subtract or substitute.

 

Here's the weekend's Indy Lights race, with a surprise (that is, not Greg Moore) winner:

 



#11 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 16:51

10 minutes!



#12 noriaki

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 16:57

After last night's bullshit I need this. 



#13 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 16:58

Good thing it's not Cleveland!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 16:58

2 minutes



#15 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:00

Go!



#16 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:01

Jack Arute already piling the pressure onto Mikey.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:02

Oops.

#18 paulb

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:02

Checking in.

#19 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:02

Robby Gordon spinning into Michael Andretti in qualifying while on an outlap. Classic.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:02

"Drivers whose skills tend to excel in road racing"



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:03

vill eh nuhv

#22 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:03

It's Buffy Sainte-Marie Lyn St James!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:04

Fuel strategy starting before the green flag. One stop or two?



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:05

Gordon should be at home with the bumps.

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:06

How did posey think unsers qual time was really close to gordon’s?

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:07

Carlos Guerrero, just the 5.9 seconds off the pace!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:07

Grim qualifying from Emmo



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:07

How did posey think unsers qual time was really close to gordon’s?

 

Closer than Guerrero's!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:07

They showed Parker Johnstone!!

#30 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:08

Tyre scuff shenanigans!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:08

Arutes firesuit is spectacular!

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:08

Does anyone GAF about the nation's cup?



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:09

"Today's stories: Michael's frustration" ABC you are brutal!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:09

Does anyone GAF about the nation's cup?

 

It's because the field is so international. As Bobby Unser pointed out a few races ago, Indycar now has more foreign drivers than Formula One!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:11

Raul Boesel done already? And Y E L L O W



#36 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:11

"A complete change of electronics"



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:11

Brain box change for Boesel.

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:11

No juice in the Duracell.

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:11

Bryan Herta's engine doesn't look right



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:12

These guys look so young!



#41 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:12

I wonder what BIG BOY is and why they're sponsoring the race track



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:12

Unset: fire not a dangerous situation?

#43 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:12

Paul Tracy nearly oversteered into the wall there!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:14

hate it when my wastegate breaks!



#45 Risil

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:14

ABC comparing Paul Tracy to a giant exploding star. As you do.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:15

Robby Gordon looks like an accident about to happen.

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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:15

Gordon train!



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:16

I wonder what BIG BOY is and why they're sponsoring the race track

 

restaurant chain known for their 'Bog Boy' burger.  Michigan staple.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:16

Robby Gordon looks like an accident about to happen.

 

You don't really see people manhandling F1 cars like this.



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Posted 03 May 2020 - 17:16

restaurant chain known for their 'Bog Boy' burger.  Michigan staple.

 

Thank you!